Bad Driving thread

If a car is faster I will move over when safe. Flashing lights unless blue or red just make me that little bit more cautious and deliberate about what I consider safe.
 
ToxicBunny said:
What you want is irrelevant.

It is the legally accepted method of indicating to the driver in front that you wish him to move over as you are traveling faster than them. There is nothing douchebagy about it.
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It is perfectly legal to pass (on the right) a long, long line of cars who are waiting to turn left (eg, at a freeway exit) and push in at the very last minute - if you indicate and do not cross a solid white line, and some one is polite and kind enough to let you in. In fact, it is a "legally accepted method", if you want to get all pedantic.

Does it make you a douchebag? Yes.

Does flashing a car so you can pass make you a douchebag, no matter that it is legal? Yes. For the same reason - rudeness. Lack of respect for your fellow motorist. Lack of courtesy - and certainly more than a touch of arrogance.

What is legal and what makes you a douchebag are not separate sets.
 
scudsucker said:
It is perfectly legal to pass (on the right) a long, long line of cars who are waiting to turn left (eg, at a freeway exit) and push in at the very last minute - if you indicate and do not cross a solid white line, and some one is polite and kind enough to let you in. In fact, it is a "legally accepted method", if you want to get all pedantic.

Does it make you a douchebag? Yes.

Does flashing a car so you can pass make you a douchebag, no matter that it is legal? Yes. For the same reason - rudeness. Lack of respect for your fellow motorist. Lack of courtesy - and certainly more than a touch of arrogance.

What is legal and what makes you a douchebag are not separate sets.
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Yeah, I agree that flashing is not nice.

However.... if you are sitting in the right hand lane doing 100 when there is ample space for you to move over, I will flash you because you are driving like a douchebag. Do not sit in the right hand lane, ever. If you can maintain the speed that you want in the left hand lane, then you should move over without being asked. If you are rude enough to stay in the right hand lane when you really do not belong there, I will flash you.

If, however, I can see that it is not safe for you to move over, I will not flash you. I will politely wait. Other people flash in this situation (I have been flashed like this) and that is rude.
 
scudsucker said:
It is perfectly legal to pass (on the right) a long, long line of cars who are waiting to turn left (eg, at a freeway exit) and push in at the very last minute - if you indicate and do not cross a solid white line, and some one is polite and kind enough to let you in. In fact, it is a "legally accepted method", if you want to get all pedantic.

Does it make you a douchebag? Yes.

Does flashing a car so you can pass make you a douchebag, no matter that it is legal? Yes. For the same reason - rudeness. Lack of respect for your fellow motorist. Lack of courtesy - and certainly more than a touch of arrogance.

What is legal and what makes you a douchebag are not separate sets.
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So if you are chugging along at 80Km/h in the right lane of the freeway and the left lane is clear and safe for you to move over (broken line etc etc) a guy comes behind you at 100Km/h+ and you refuse to move that's not rude, Arrogant and shows lack of respect for other users of the road (AKA A douchbag) ? but as soon as he flashes you he becomes a douchebag. There are 2 types of people on the road Those who consider others and those who don't - driving slower does not automatically make you one of the considerate ones just as driving fast does not automatically mean you one of the ones who are not considerate

Honestly it doesn't matter if it makes you a douchebag in your eyes since no one cares its 100% legal and and actual polite thing to do - as opposed to driving up so close to the guy you can see his engine through the exhaust pipe.

Any way back on actual Bad driving.
So sitting in traffic check a bike coming between the lanes (lane splitting absolutely legal) so i move a little to the left to make it easier for the dude, and so did the few cars in front of me but after that Douschebag in an X3 or x5 actually moved more to the right to block the biker luckily he wasn't fast and car on the right moved more right - if biker didn't was a little faster and / or the car to the right of the BM didn't make way - Splat :cry:
WTF is wrong with some people!
 
I don't particularly like being flashed either, but don't mind if someone does it once to indicate their intent. Grates my carrot when people flash constantly, though. That's douchebaggery.
 
Colin62 said:
It's not about what you like - it's the law. Flashing lights is the legal way to inform the car in front of you that you wish to pass.
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But it doesn't give you the automatic right to do so.

And what if someone does this to you when you're also trying to get past the car in front of you?

It may be legal, but that doesn't make it particularly polite or called for in anything but an extreme case when some idiot is driving slowly in the passing lane with plenty of space on the left.
 
garp said:
But it doesn't give you the automatic right to do so.
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Yes it does.


garp said:
And what if someone does this to you when you're also trying to get past the car in front of you?
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I'll move over and let him go. I'll then move back in behind him and pass the car in front just after he does. Happens all the time, no big deal.


garp said:
It may be legal, but that doesn't make it particularly polite or called for in anything but an extreme case when some idiot is driving slowly in the passing lane with plenty of space on the left.
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And the suggestion to tailgate someone to let them know you wish to pass is more polite and safer is it? Grow up, someone overtaking you on the freeway doesn't mean you have a small dick, it just means that at that moment he wishes to travel faster than you do. It's not a competition.

When you're all travelling at the same speed in the right lane, and you don't wish to pass the guy in front, then don't flash him. If you do want to pass, flash him once, so he knows. He then moves over (when it's safe) and you each go on your way. No need for either of you to get your panties twisted. No-one insulted anyone. No-one was rude to anyone. No-one made anyone feel like he needed a samgoma.
 
Colin62 said:
Yes it does.
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No, flashing certainly doesn't give you the right to pass. The law says it is merely to make the other driver aware of your intention, not to intimidate other drivers into getting out of your way.

Colin62 said:
I'll move over and let him go. I'll then move back in behind him and pass the car in front just after he does. Happens all the time, no big deal.
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So your right to pass the car holding up the lane is somehow less important merely because the car behind you is flashing? The car holding you up might also be passing slower traffic on the left and has every right to do so.

Colin62 said:
And the suggestion to tailgate someone to let them know you wish to pass is more polite and safer is it? Grow up, someone overtaking you on the freeway doesn't mean you have a small dick, it just means that at that moment he wishes to travel faster than you do. It's not a competition.
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Not my suggestion, I think you got your quotes confused.

Colin62 said:
When you're all travelling at the same speed in the right lane, and you don't wish to pass the guy in front, then don't flash him. If you do want to pass, flash him once, so he knows. He then moves over (when it's safe) and you each go on your way. No need for either of you to get your panties twisted. No-one insulted anyone. No-one was rude to anyone. No-one made anyone feel like he needed a samgoma.
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You should not all be travelling at the same speed in the right lane if you have no intention to pass or the left lanes are open in the first place, but if the highway is congested this usually means that everyone in the right lane is also trying to drive faster - flashing your lights in that situation does not give you some magical priority over those cars and is a dick move.
 
When I get flashed (which thankfully doesn't happen often)...I get this strong urge to ease off the gas gradually.
 
I've probably flashed my lights a handful of times on occasion since I started driving.

The ones I remember are a guy in the fast lane doing 80kph late at night in a beaten up whatever it was without working lights holding up everyone.

And last week where a guy moved into fast lane from the middle lane doing 80kph without using indicators or bothering to look if cars were in the fast lane.
 
I usually drive at 80km/h max in the left lane. It is better to arrive late, rather than to wake up dead in a hospital.
 
I wish all the zombies would stay in the far left lane or at least try to obey the very old keep left pass right rule.

When exactly did the keep left pass right rule stop being a fundamental rule on SA's roads? Was it when everyone started buying drivers licences instead of obtaining their drivers licence legally?

Slow-minded-fast-lane-hogs should at least have a shot of caffeine before they leave home in the mornings.
 
j4ck455 said:
When exactly did the keep left pass right rule stop being a fundamental rule on SA's roads?
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Around the time when using indicators became completely optional. Or when "right-of-way" became superfluous. Or ignoring the fact that racing like a nut-job firstly doesn't save much time and secondly should be done in properly designated places.

I think that people are so caught up in their own selfish little bubbles that they forget we're all actually just trying to get to our destinations safely. If someone's driving gets on your nerves and puts your safey at risk, please don't reciprocate
 
j4ck455 said:
I wish all the zombies would stay in the far left lane or at least try to obey the very old keep left pass right rule.



When exactly did the keep left pass right rule stop being a fundamental rule on SA's roads? Was it when everyone started buying drivers licences instead of obtaining their drivers licence legally?



Slow-minded-fast-lane-hogs should at least have a shot of caffeine before they leave home in the mornings.
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Damn straight! And these guys that sit in the far right at 120 and won't give way because it is the legal maximum speed: **** off! :mad:
 
HavocXphere said:
When I get flashed (which thankfully doesn't happen often)...I get this strong urge to ease off the gas gradually.
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Right and if you act on that urge you are a douche - So the guy might rear end you and sure he will be 100% at fault but you still have a smashed car - scratch your face to spite your face as it were


j4ck455 said:
I wish all the zombies would stay in the far left lane or at least try to obey the very old keep left pass right rule.

When exactly did the keep left pass right rule stop being a fundamental rule on SA's roads? Was it when everyone started buying drivers licences instead of obtaining their drivers licence legally?

Slow-minded-fast-lane-hogs should at least have a shot of caffeine before they leave home in the mornings.
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Who knows but heaven forbid you flash your brights at them and become a Douche (as per some peoples opinions)


Hamster said:
Damn straight! And these guys that sit in the far right at 120 and won't give way because it is the legal maximum speed: **** off! :mad:
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Oh what about the guy doing 140+Km in the right lane and the guy comes up behind him doing 150+Km - Mr 140Km won't move over as how dare someone else break the law more than him - or the guy who when the person manages to overtake them on the left they speed up to not allow them to pass- Please note i am not condoning speeding here - just pointing out they Hypocrisy.


Alot of people drive decently and will move over when they see a car traveling faster than them (even if they don't flash brights) and maybe you one of those people and if someone flashes brights at you you find that douchey - but i'm sure the guy who flashed his brights at you can't see your personality.
 
I'll admit, I have enough speeding fines to pay for half of SANRAL's debt (well, almost! :whistle:) - I love to drive fast but believe to do so responsibly.

First of all NO speeding near schools, parks etc. where kids might be playing, nor in areas where road visibility becomes difficult (ie. hills, blind corners etc.).
Also, I adjust speed to the conditions to the road and traffic - NO fast driving in the rain or peak hours - I do not want to be "that a-hole" on the road.

The "fast lane" is a privilege but by no means a right. Even if you drive a Ferrari or GTR, the lane isn't your playground, nor should you be driving in it if your top speed is 60kph!

I fly (pardon, drive :twisted:) to work at about 150kph on the highway. Slower vehicles do wise up to my presence without the need to flash lights at them, and no tailgating either. The occasional mouth-breather will require some prompting with a polite flash. If need be a 'slight' hoot, strobe style flashing and weaving like Senna tends to 'convince' them to leave (it should be pointed out that this happened only once...ish).

The simple concept to get into one's mind however is: to drive a bit slower = saving money.
 
Ok, you're unquestionably a douche then if you drive in that fashion.

Speeding is NEVER ok, no matter how you try to justify it or precautions you think you take.
 
Today I was driving past St Mary's school in Waverley JHB. There was a bus full of Japanese tourists outside taking pictures. A tourist was standing to the left of the road, then steps out in front of me to have her photo taken with the School sign in the background. I had to slam on brakes. WTF. Not bad driving , but stupid Tourist.
 
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