Barnes under fire for mocking Angie

racist ?
zuma on the pronunciation of nkandla ?

[video=youtube;aDJ353jLOyY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDJ353jLOyY[/video]
 
Progressive death cycle. Faux outrage followed by contrived apology....
 
ngwe23 said:
I do not subscribe to the idea that black people cannot be racist. I don't know what gave you that impression. Why don't those who started the cycle end it. The racism your see from black quarters is in retaliation to being constantly undermined, and their concerns being dismissed out of hand.
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I didn't say you subscribe to that idea, but many do. And you're rationalising their racism, which even if understandable in some cases, can still not be justified and the guilty parties held accountable, especially if there's incitement to violence.
 
Bruce Almighty strikes again.

Seriously, Barnes was there to entertain us with the news, not deliver his own opinion piece.
 
ngwe23 said:
BEE is a necessary evil that is there to balance the ill effects of the past.
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As the Black Economic Empowerment Act currently stands, and the implementation thereof, I disagree with you.

  1. The act's primary purpose is to transform ownership and upper management. This is a tiny fraction of the populace. Trickle-down economics does not work. This leads to (2). If you want to transform, you need to transform from the bottom up.
  2. The enrichment of the wealthy and politically connected. The top 1% of the world own 40% of the world's wealth, how much of that goes back into the economy to up life those below them? Not enough I'd say. What makes you think our people will be/are any different?
  3. You need BEE certification to get a Government contract. This has a knock-on effect of either causing the non-Black owners to look at other ways to earn an income, or to use (4) below. This helps no one and at worst drives skills this country needs away.
  4. The law is circumventable, using shell companies or token blacks.

ngwe23 said:
It is ultimately unsustainable to have the majority occupying the bottom end of the economic scale though no fault of their own.
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On this we agree. The question I pose to you is at what point do you stop the transformation? How far do we go?

ngwe23 said:
Also BEE is not a meant to be punitive against white people.
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I agree, but many others will not.

ngwe23 said:
He should be equal in all regards.
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I am assuming "He" is a mistake and you meant "We". I agree we should all be equal in all regards, but that is an ideal situation. We may all be equal in terms of our basic human rights, but we will never be equal economically. I must stress the last clause of the previous sentence that it is independent of race, simply because of the fact that even within the different races you have people occupying all rungs of the economic ladder.

ngwe23 said:
But your point proves my point in the sense that you are not concerned about the abject poverty that black people find themselves in, to the extent that you are against any measures put in place to address this imbalance.
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To assume that I am not concerned about the abject poverty that our people find themselves in is misleading and frankly a ******** move.

I will freely admit I am against all measures of discrimination that use race as the deciding factor. I hate racial discrimination immensely, largely in part because I have been a victim of racial discrimination during my adolescent years. I never experienced Apartheid, so I never knew what racial discrimination was. I was 4 years old when the ANC came into power. I have no recollection of racial discrimination before I was 17, but at the age of 17 I applied for bursaries to go study further. I got told quite simply, "You're white. Our aim is to provide bursaries to the previously disadvantaged." I could not fathom why this was happening to me, I mean I thought the constitution guaranteed all of us equality. Turns out it does not guarantee equality at all times. When I entered the world of work, I went to a number of interview where the interviewer stated "You're white, it will be difficult for us to justify hiring you." Thus I have become completely polarised against any form of racial discrimination.

If you want to up lift people, up lift those that are poverty stricken. Use economic status as the deciding factor, not the colour of our skin. Just to clarify: I am well aware that the majority of people that are poverty stricken in this country are black.
 
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And Angie is smiling because the spotlight has been taken off the terrible matric results and moved onto "what Barnes said". This country is like one big episode of "Keeping up with the Kardashians"!
 
phaktza said:
And Angie is smiling because the spotlight has been taken off the terrible matric results and moved onto "what Barnes said". This country is like one big episode of "Keeping up with the Kardashians"!
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Doing what governments do best: Distract from the real issues at hand.
People need to wake the fck up.
 
The overall conglomerate (dare not say which) has now achieved full racial awareness in 2016. Beware the racially aware individuals in South Africa. They can make you or break you! :whistle:
 
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