Battle over iBurst tower heats up

I have some issues with this article. Firstly, it's a repeat of another thread that was old and derailed (but still open).

Secondly, can MyBB substantiate the allegations about the protesters being "paid" for their time.
 
There seems to be another Thread on the same issue.........

so me cross post here............. :rolleyes:


From the other thread:

I must admit, I speed read through this thread..........

so my 2c worth might have been mentioned somewhere already.


As far I can read, Iburst handed in all the required docs to local council and town planning.

They then received approval for their proposed tower from council.


No need for you guys to even look in Iburst's direction. Not their problem.

You will need to take it up with the local authority that approved it.

And we all know how long thats gonna take.

Sorry to say, but that tower is there to stay.


(oh, I might just mention I use to be a subscriber of Iburst, but saw the light and went to greener pastures. Just in case someone wants to post the usual "he must be an Iburst employee" comment)
 
Obviously the reporter who wrote this gets paid by iburst !!! I live in a complex right below the Craigavon tower and we definitely DID NOT receive any notification from anybody. We were told it would be a parking area.!!!!!!!!!!!

Does Iburst think there is only one protestor in Craigavon - wake up dudes - there is a major bunch of us !
 
I live in a complex right below the Craigavon tower and we definitely DID NOT receive any notification from anybody. We were told it would be a parking area.!!!!!!!!!!!

Like I said, if Iburst handed in all the application documents and YOUR municipalality forgot/omitted/didn't care/stuffed up, then it is NOT ibursts fault.

You (the property owners) are being misinformed by a rookie lawyer or something like that.

You are barking up the wrong tree...........

PLEASE can someone go make the coffee so they can smell it......:rolleyes:
 
surly they can make the tower look like a fake tree?
 
Like I said, if Iburst handed in all the application documents and YOUR municipalality forgot/omitted/didn't care/stuffed up, then it is NOT ibursts fault.

You (the property owners) are being misinformed by a rookie lawyer or something like that.

You are barking up the wrong tree...........

PLEASE can someone go make the coffee so they can smell it......:rolleyes:

You are missing the point, it's totally Iburst's problem if the locals aren't informed. They aren't paying attention if thats not the case. They should be more involved at community level instead of quitely dotting their i's and crossing their t's on paper and hoping for their insider to pass the green light. The community are here on this forum complaining and if I was an iburst subscriber, I would go elsewhere for the attitude you paint above. No-one was misinformed apparently, in fact no-one was informed at all. Rookie nothing, something stinks here and it's going to be assumed that something passed under the table as that's the nature of big business in SA.

Iburst will lose more subscribers over this.
 
You are missing the point, it's totally Iburst's problem if the locals aren't informed. They aren't paying attention if thats not the case. They should be more involved at community level instead of quitely dotting their i's and crossing their t's on paper and hoping for their insider to pass the green light. The community are here on this forum complaining and if I was an iburst subscriber, I would go elsewhere for the attitude you paint above. No-one was misinformed apparently, in fact no-one was informed at all. Rookie nothing, something stinks here and it's going to be assumed that something passed under the table as that's the nature of big business in SA.

Iburst will lose more subscribers over this.

As already stated, nothing sinister or underhanded in this whole process and anyone is welcome to come and look at the relevant documentation and certificates, just as iBurst made it available to myBroadband.

To re-iterate, the notification process was followed 100% and consisted of at least the following steps:

1) Owners on adjacent properties were hand-delivered notifications and also received another via registered mail. This happened in 2007. (Dorny, who now leads the residents' action, was one of those who actually received both. She never lodged an objection.)

2) Notices were put up on the site.

3) Ads were run in the local newspapers.

Anyone can then register as an objector or an interrested party and must be kept in the loop. A number of local residents did indeed register and did go through the process.

All received objections must be handled before the ROD can be issued. This was done and the ROD was issued in October 2008, nearly a year ago. Construction only started some time after that.

As to the visual appearance of the tower, the authorities always look at the visial impact and will then issue specific instructions on how to address this.

In this case, iBurst were instructed to erect the mast close to a cluster of high trees and to match the colour of the trees to make the mast blend in with the surroundings. This was done, so you'll see a green mast close to a cluster of trees. You can see this on the photos Dantex posted. (I see they've been removed, will see if I can get one and post here.)

In summary, there is a very well controlled process in getting these towers constructed and regulations on how and what to do is well controlled. Heavy penalties (millions) can be imposed if the process is not followed. So, these installations are done properly and according to the relevant laws.

This, often very long process (in this case 2 years, and sometimes it never completes) is one of the primary reasons why coverage is so often lacking in many areas and the networks gets blasted for bad signal and coverage. One of those cases where it's damned if you do, damned if you don't. :)
 
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A bit of trivial, totally random news. Scientists reckon that microwaves from cell phone masts interfere with the navigation system of bees. A swarm could leave their hive in search of pollen, and are unable to return, effectively wiping out a colony in one fowl swoop. Imagine a world without much fruit and vegetables because there is no bees to pollinate the plants.

just a thought :erm:
 
I am sorry if I am approaching the 'problem' with little or no sympathy towards the residents.......


I have to deal with these sort of applications regularly, and it ALWAYS ends in the following way.......

There is ALWAYS a couple of late sleepers who never respond to the initial invitation by council to appeal to the applicants proposal.

They almost ALWAYS turn out to be the ones who blow the horn the loudest.


Too late......... the applicant followed procedures as stipulated by the local authority. As far as the applicant is concerned, if council saw it fit to only put the required smaaaaal advertisement in the paper and no-one appealed, why should they (the applicant) spend more time and money going to your house and waking your lazy @ss up to tell you what is happening in YOUR neighbourhood?

Like I said before....... the community is barking up the wrong tree. Rather go after the ones who REALLY don't care.... YOUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITY.
 
Why does iburst not try and come to a solution or mutual agreement with the residents of Craigavon instead of continually attacking them ??? Can it not be moved to an area that would benefit both iburst and residents ??
It is apparent that many people are unhappy and have been affected by this tower installation.

Mr.van Zyl do your childen or family live within 50m-100m of a tower?
 
I am sorry if I am approaching the 'problem' with little or no sympathy towards the residents.......


I have to deal with these sort of applications regularly, and it ALWAYS ends in the following way.......

There is ALWAYS a couple of late sleepers who never respond to the initial invitation by council to appeal to the applicants proposal.

They almost ALWAYS turn out to be the ones who blow the horn the loudest.


Too late......... the applicant followed procedures as stipulated by the local authority. As far as the applicant is concerned, if council saw it fit to only put the required smaaaaal advertisement in the paper and no-one appealed, why should they (the applicant) spend more time and money going to your house and waking your lazy @ss up to tell you what is happening in YOUR neighbourhood?

Like I said before....... the community is barking up the wrong tree. Rather go after the ones who REALLY don't care.... YOUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITY.

I must agree.

They wanted to put up a huge 9m x 6m lighted bill board close to us. I complained after reading what I thought was junk mail, and later when the invitation to the hearing was sent, I found that I was the only one who complained. Even that one complaint got the location and size changed.
 
Can it not be moved to an area that would benefit both iburst and residents ?
Sure.... or the resident could just move their house. The costs would be about the same. :rolleyes:

A tower like this costs at least R 1 000 000 to build and its not a movable asset. That is why these things get proper municipal approval before the network operators even lay the first brick. Mistakes are expensive. :cool:
 
To name but one example......

Here in Somerset West is an up-market estate.

The plots are hugely overprised, it costs an average of R10 000/sqm to build due to all the Architectural Guidelines.

The average house is round about R2 000 000 to R3 500 000.

YET........ most of the people who buy there DON'T do their homework.


It goes beyond me to see people spending this kind of money on a house but they wont spend 30min to go to the local municipality to inquire what the surrounding open spaces is zoned for and what they tend to erect on the surrounding properties.

If they did, they will soon realize that in the very near future they will be neighbours to an graveyard and a refuse sorting plant.
 
lol, shows how stupid people are if they have to pay protestors.. oooh.. evil microwaves... just yank all internet from Craigavon for a month, then offer services with a +50% "b**ch and moan" fee.
 
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