Biggest ADSL downloader

Gatecrasher said:
I listened quite carefully to this presentation at the conference. Alan Bacher said that engineers investigating how this dude was downloading so much found 40 concurrent connections to a variety of international newservers. So clearly it was not just to the IS news server.

The number of threads or concurrent connections a user has does not impact on the congestion of a network. Only the total bandwidth used will do that. P2P apps and torrents can use thousands of concurrent connections on a single machine.

One chap downloading at 4mbps 24/7 is not, in itself, going to have any major impact on the IS network. But if hundreds or thousands do the same, the impact will be major.
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Thanks for clearing that up.

BTW - would it be safe to say that ISs international capacity is far more limited and that a smaller number of heavy users would have greater impact?
 
bwana said:
Thanks for clearing that up.

BTW - would it be safe to say that ISs international capacity is far more limited and that a smaller number of heavy users would have greater impact?
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I think it is safe to say that.

But it is the responsibility of IS to ensure that all their users get an adequate service.

If people are allowed to get away with murder, murder they will.

Earlier this year things were far more liberal. Since then we have seen severe p2p shaping in business hours, more strict aherence to the account line speeds, and the throttling users who are above their "thresholds".
 
a 4096 connection you can do 512KB (kilobytes) max (4096/8 to get bytes from bits). 12,288 Gig a day x 30days 368640 so 368Gig a month presuming you can actually get maximum data rate?! if my calcs is right then i would love to know how he did it !!!! means i can do 200Gig on my normal 512 line then!:D
 
Tns said:
a 4096 connection you can do 512KB (kilobytes) max (4096/8 to get bytes from bits). 12,288 Gig a day x 30days 368640 so 368Gig a month presuming you can actually get maximum data rate?! if my calcs is right then i would love to know how he did it !!!! means i can do 200Gig on my normal 512 line then!:D
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512KB x 60 x 60 x 24 = 44 236 800KB x 30 days = 1 327 104 000KB

or ~1TB taking overheads into account
 
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Hignflyer is correct - 1TB in a month is very possible. While I highly doubt you'd be able to get a flat out speed of 512 KB/s I would estimate that you'd be able to get cached content at around 450 KB/s +/-.

All this makes me want to upgrade my trusty 512K for a 4096 beast!!!

To the guy that raped IS for 1TB - Well done bru!!! :-)
 
Highflyer_GP said:
It's twits like this that are stuffing it up for everyone else, and it's nothing to brag about either. How was it even possible for him to have 40 connections open on a single account? Personally I wouldn't normally mind, but capacity is limited and if these guys are impacting on our service then I hope that IS is taking some form of action against them.
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If you advertise something as uncapped you have to accept that some people are actually going to believe what you are advertising and are actually going to use it. Uncapped = uncapped not 50 gig or a 100 gig.
 
Thing is that limit is a threshold, it's still uncapped but they throttle your speed. I know it's weird, but technically it is uncapped. However that's only for the express account, the business uncapped accounts are uncapped without any speed throttling.
 
Only a small portion of their uncapped service subscriber base – typically under 10% - exceeds the 50 GB monthly usage limit
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And spoil it for the rest of us. There are probably a couple of legitimate reasons for using this much bandwidth but I bet you a lot of guys are pirating stuff. So each one of these guys use up what 50 doBroadband users will use in a month. Makes me sick. 20 GB sounds reasonable.
 
ic said:
Don't forget that IS' primary target market for 50GB+ uncapped is businesses, it isn't difficult to use up 20GB or even 50GB transferring data between branches inside and outside of SA - e.g. off-site backups, synching of databases, email, etc etc etc. The larger the business, chances are the more data will be transferred in & out of SA.
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Do many large businesses in SA rely upon ADSL for that sort of inter-branch traffic? I would have thought that with a max upstream of 512 it would be less than ideal.
 
bwana said:
Do many large businesses in SA rely upon ADSL for that sort of inter-branch traffic? I would have thought that with a max upstream of 512 it would be less than ideal.
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Yeah, it actually works quite well. Using the right equipment makes a big difference, we only use fortigates.
 
bwana said:
Do many large businesses in SA rely upon ADSL for that sort of inter-branch traffic? I would have thought that with a max upstream of 512 it would be less than ideal.
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And aren't leased lines more reliable?

But I get the point that it is for business and they soak up bandwidth. But the guy who was connected to the news server is still a punk :D
 
pkid said:
And aren't leased lines more reliable?

But I get the point that it is for business and they soak up bandwidth. But the guy who was connected to the news server is still a punk :D
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He probably ran his own mini IS news server from his business adsl. Had a few buddies buy-in and off they went.
 
I'm on uncapped 512K...and I do roughly 100GB per month.

I also agree on the 100GB cap.
 
moabin said:
he can't be impacting your service...he paid for uncapped and is using it as advertised...Blame IS if you don't agree
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And if everyone does as he did, the price would be R18000 per month for everyone. Any way you look at it, the twit is abusing the service. Uncapped accounts are there so that people don't have to budget for internet access, not so that everyone can just go crazy. Legalities aside, there is no way that someone can even look at 1TB of data in a month. The only reason for someone to do that is because they can which just makes everything more unpleasant for everyone else.

The only way that any of these uncapped accounts are affordable is because they "oversell" bandwidth. IS will either discontinue the service or make it more expensive if people start to do things like this.
 
An uncapped 4mb account with IS is close to R 2000 p/m on WA! Man no wonder he got a terrabyte worth of data in one month - he probably retired after that!

Another thing, blaming this guy for our bandwidth problems in this country is like blaming your mother in law for marrying her daughter - it may make you feel better but it is way off the mark.

A few of things:
  1. This guy did not waste his time on the IS news server doing 7KB/s, he had international access to GigaNews and the like
  2. He was monitored by the IS engineers, so he was not "hacking" his way around the system (proxies, scripts etc) - if he was he would have been cut off for abuse of the account
  3. He bought an uncapped account, operative word uncapped. He paid a lot of money for this and is free to use it as long as he complies with his agreement with his ISP - which he did
  4. If the IS network cannot support users like him, then they should not sell those types of accounts
 
I bow down to the 1TB man, for us thats huge, for other places in the world, a warm up...
 
My roommates are all computer science nerds and they all work at ATI (or AMD now). We set up a server with Hellanzb (a little application that downloads from usenet, par check, unrar/unzip, and move into the appropiate folders) so that everyone can add to the queue by just emailing a nzb file to a special gmail address we set up.

We downloaded 24 hours a day. 7 days a week. Last month we topped 4.3 TB. I'd guess about half of that was pr0n.

If a company gives unlimited downloads, well, be careful. Some of us will abuse it as sin.
 
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