Binge Drinking! ~ Moose Calls Time!

Mortymoose

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Triggers!

I was always amazed at how my late father would use any opportunity to go on a bender, his record being a solid twenty one days when his sister in law over in Australia passed on.

A bird that got whacked by a neighbourhood cat and then died in his garden was a good enough reason to get pissed..... It took me about three decades to understand this.

Triggers, I mentioned that a mate of mine passed on this past Saturday, at the sprightly age of fifty two, my first reaction, head to the pub and raise a glass..... which I did'nt...... the old Moose would have....

On my drive back from Cape Town on Monday I got to thinking at all the triggers I had used to get drunk!

They include.

Death, anyone that I remotely knew kicked the bucket seemed like a good reason to raise a glass and get pissed. Off course I would use the excuse, "In my Celtic Culture this is how we celebrate death!"

Music, My donner don't some songs just set the mood for a good dop, especially those one's from your past that instantly recall a drunken party moment...... I have thousands of these trigger songs....
In addition, I have a strong urge to have a few toots when watching live music, I was motherless at Mumford in Cape Town and had put away at least 16 x 500ml when I got to touch Bruce Springsteen's leg in the Belville Velodrome........ Looking back, those two concerts were a drunken blur, I wish I could remember them better.

Braai, The fine art of cremating deceased beasts, some of you know I have a longstanding thread that has been running for more than five years about this........ hundreds of fires..... with ninety percent dop. It would seem having a warm cup of coffee at a braai is just not on......... I ruined one of my birthdays when I had about 12 guests over and was so pissed that I fecked the ribs on the braai up...... I wish I could have that day over.....

Camping and touring, sitting next to a flowing river with a fish eagle soaring overhead, the crackle of the camping fire as the sun sets..... just goes hand in hand with an ice cold beer........ I am off Camping at Ai Ais in a few days..... Last time I was so pissed, I wrecked a brand new tent and had brought so much beer with I actually gave away an entire case to the staff.... On the previous camp, I spent little time at the tent but rather camped up at the bar having a sing song with an oke and a guitar.....

Birthday parties...... My Afrikaans neigbours all stopped suiping five years back and I avoid their parties like the plague, their wives sit in the corner knitting whilst they turn grey sipping on Alcohol free beer, I show my face and then make an excuse to go home quickly....... where I turn up the music and have a one man party..... way more fun than sitting with the boring sober folk....

Anyhow, I think part of this journey is to be able to identify ones triggers....... I have many it would seem....
 

thestaggy

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Triggers!

Going back to your youth, were you ever capable of having fun without the dop?

I haven't had a drink in 7-days now and I have been thinking quite a bit about it. I am essentially incapable of having fun without drinking. And the more people there are and the louder the music gets, the more I drink.

I bought premium tickets to two FIFA World Cup games in 2010. If not for the photos, I wouldn't remember too much about them because I was blitzed.

Family braai? Hammered. Braai with friends? Hammered.

Heading to the bar to meet friends and watch a band? Get drunk as quickly as possible. Get to the club for a night of dancing? ''Two shots and a double vodka and Red Bull, please'' as soon as I get there.

So my trigger seems to be anything social.
 

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You can always swap out the booze when you are on a clean stint. I usually opt for tea in the evenings and for social events I enjoy those sugar free flavoured water from Chickers.
 

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Going back to your youth, were you ever capable of having fun without the dop?

I haven't had a drink in 7-days now and I have been thinking quite a bit about it. I am essentially incapable of having fun without drinking. And the more people there are and the louder the music gets, the more I drink.

I bought premium tickets to two FIFA World Cup games in 2010. If not for the photos, I wouldn't remember too much about them because I was blitzed.

Family braai? Hammered. Braai with friends? Hammered.

Heading to the bar to meet friends and watch a band? Get drunk as quickly as possible. Get to the club for a night of dancing? ''Two shots and a double vodka and Red Bull, please'' as soon as I get there.

So my trigger seems to be anything social.
How old are you?
 

Mortymoose

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Going back to your youth, were you ever capable of having fun without the dop?

It was the culture I grew up in, mining and Scottish, Glaswegian at that, my parents played a lot of folk music and there was always drinking..

I use to sail a lot on the Orange RIver and a pan up here...... that was fun, but always after you would hit the Yacht Club bar...

Later on in life, I realized that my mood would pick up and I would get excited if I knew I was going to be drinking later...

I am a very sociable person and do not need booze to talk to folk and I enjoy talking to strangers, not shy to initiate a conversation. I also have the gift of the gab and can speak in public and can make folk laugh. In all honesty my favourite spot for making folk laugh is at funerals..... :X3:

So no, I do not need dop to be social and I do recall days where I had fun without dop, although at the end of the day It always turned into a drinking session....
 

thestaggy

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It was the culture I grew up in, mining and Scottish, Glaswegian at that, my parents played a lot of folk music and there was always drinking..

I use to sail a lot on the Orange RIver and a pan up here...... that was fun, but always after you would hit the Yacht Club bar...

Later on in life, I realized that my mood would pick up and I would get excited if I knew I was going to be drinking later...

I am a very sociable person and do not need booze to talk to folk and I enjoy talking to strangers, not shy to initiate a conversation. I also have the gift of the gab and can speak in public and can make folk laugh. In all honesty my favourite spot for making folk laugh is at funerals..... :X3:

So no, I do not need dop to be social and I do recall days where I had fun without dop, although at the end of the day It always turned into a drinking session....

I can relate to that. Play a bit of sport on a Sunday morning, go rafting, then the talk of going for a beer afterwards and that easily turned in to a day session.

Maybe cannot have fun without the booze is a statement too far, but definitely knowing drinks were on the cards made everything better.
 

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I started drinking at the age of 5 or so (under parental supervision).
Parental unit A = Portuguese (drank like a fish)
Parental unit B = South African (refuses to touch alcohol)
 

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Sounds like you're too far down the road for a complete 180 there. You need to replace the booze with something else, problem is you've damaged your life-vehicle, so you'd need to create radical change for starters. Alcohol is socially acceptable and thus perhaps you might have missed the part where your body sees it as a toxin. Difficulty is now for you to replace these triggered moments with healthy solutions, and all of them, require discipline, a lot of it.
I'd say, personally, it's a bad move to quit something outright. I'd rather moderate, and be discerning about where and when you drink. Save it for special moments. Fill the rest of these voids with other things; running, gym, a hobby. Weed could help you too, even just to stop the feedback loops that are causing these binges. Good luck
 

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Sounds like you're too far down the road for a complete 180 there. You need to replace the booze with something else, problem is you've damaged your life-vehicle, so you'd need to create radical change for starters. Alcohol is socially acceptable and thus perhaps you might have missed the part where your body sees it as a toxin. Difficulty is now for you to replace these triggered moments with healthy solutions, and all of them, require discipline, a lot of it.
I'd say, personally, it's a bad move to quit something outright. I'd rather moderate, and be discerning about where and when you drink. Save it for special moments. Fill the rest of these voids with other things; running, gym, a hobby. Weed could help you too, even just to stop the feedback loops that are causing these binges. Good luck

We each have our opinions but I think its harsh to say he is too far down the road to change.
i think stopping out right might be the right choice here, at least for now. It is so easy for 1 drink to become 5, to find that grove again, to convince yourself this isnt so bad or tell yourself, you have been so good, you deserve this.
I have told myself a lot of lies to justify what I have done.

Totally agree on filling the voids, I cling onto exercise now, to the fact that I will wake up not feeling awful.
Sometimes I have a trigger and I know I am screwed, on those days, and this may sound insane to some people, I take prescription sleeping tablets almost immediately. It almost removes that tension, that feeling that I have that I need to abuse substances. In 20 minutes Im asleep and when I wake up I am grateful as hell I didnt do anything stupid.

Once you have defined yourself with a certain lifestyle its hard to find something else. I mentioned that in an earlier post as well and I think it is an issue for a lot of people. If they arent the outgoing, party animal who likes a drink or whatever, then who are they in a social situation.
 

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I hear what you okes are saying but bear two things in mind.

All the years that I have been drinking, I was doing some form of sport, up until 18 months ago I was swimming 45 minutes everyday, for the past two years I play badminton for at least forty minutes a day six days a week...... this has been my saving grace, I should have been rife with diabetes or some other lifestyle disease.....

Secondly this is day 38 of no booze and in all honesty, my head is clearer, I am more active and feel great..... the big thing is , I still braai, still socialize and badminton and bowling club and have no urge for suiping anymore....... I think it is my age that has actually caught up with me, let's say I am maturing.... :X3: Long overdue in the English HO's books.....

I never use to drink until 16, one day in the back of a school bus taking boarding school kids back to Namibia I was invited to the "cool" part of the bus, coz the leader "A" of the crowd was the son of family friends..... He enticed me to have my first drink..... they had stashed five liter pap sakke behind each seat..... thats where I first learnt to drink , ironically it was also the first time I got touch a woman (two years older than me) down stairs, being drunk she forced my hand into her panties and showed me what she wanted ...... Gee! this is all coming back to me and now I digress.....

The point I wanted to make, last night "A" was in town, he owns a mining services company and was in the store last night, I see him from time to time, My Gawd, his face looks fecked, like an 80 year old from all the drinking.,
My butchery manager kuiered with the gang last night, he looked fecked also this morning, tired and run down....

No Thanks! I have done my time, got the stories (busy writing these down) and want to have my last three decades to enjoy....
 
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