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I have a standard english surname that I am sure you all use atleast once everyday in your normal conversation. I spell it everytime I give it over the phone, even to other americans, just so I know they get it right. Saves the hassle and is polite.

When I lived in a spanish speaking country, the people would pronounce my surname with a puzzled look and then ask, "Are you Chinese?" Yeah, I am the only english speaking 6'3" white chinese dude with a US passport speaking spanish in your country. I would laugh everytime it happened. This Jacob person needs to lighten up a bit.
 
Moederloos said:
o my god.

I have all my life battled with my name - amongst whites, blacks, orientals - both with English as a first language, and not.

I have even gone so far as to modify my name for non-official purposes (like ordering a pizza for delivery - but, even then, a name like John confounds the operator at times).

Please, zukeka or whatever your name is, stfu.
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Same here, just the other day I had to spell it for someone and the reaction was 'How do you pronounce THAT?'. It actually causes me to get depressed sometimes that I don't have a name that's 'common' but I guess it's part of my uniqueness. I also think Zukeka is making a fuss about nothing, lots of people struggle with names, just get over it.
 
Bageloo said:
Mary, Rose, Stella, Wellington, Keneth, Reuben, Gwen, Patricia, Aubery, Johannes, and even Gert were some of the names of my black co-workers (and those were young people).
Arriving from KZN, my first reaction was like "WTF, these names are way colonial"????
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Too Colonial, too Zulu, too anything but your own culture. ...You're sounding more and more bigoted.
 
I have a standard English/Irish surname and never in my entire life has anyone ever spelt it correctly the first time. It's simple manners if someone gives me their name over the phone for me to ask them how to spell it..

Get off your high horse and stop thinking you are constantly victimised..

Like thinking the term buffoon is racist...
 
Is it my imagination or is there an elite number of non-Blacks who have become too sensitive in South Africa? You write one article, and all of a sudden their world stops. Its as if they've lost the very essence of living, stuck to their keyboards writing fruitless words. Because they are all busy responding, trying to defend themselves. Why all the trouble? Its a waste of resources. Hopefully not company resources. What is even worse is that none of you have the guts to use your real names. I would not like to attribute it to cowardness at this stage, i'm sure you all have your reasons. I would like all of you to read the article again and this time, with an open mind. There you'll be able to find the real theme of the article. That is the only time I will participate, so that all of you can learn. You all need to adapt a progressive learning culture in order to live happy lives here in South Africa. Until you do that, you will make stupid comments like the ones that I have seen so far and remain miserable. Happy blogging...or is it 'time wasting'....
 
zukeka said:
Is it my imagination or is there an elite number of non-Blacks who have become too sensitive in South Africa?
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It is your imagination. You're clearly the too sensitive one.
 
zukeka said:
Is it my imagination or is there an elite number of non-Blacks who have become too sensitive in South Africa? You write one article, and all of a sudden their world stops. Its as if they've lost the very essence of living, stuck to their keyboards writing fruitless words. Because they are all busy responding, trying to defend themselves. Why all the trouble? Its a waste of resources. Hopefully not company resources. What is even worse is that none of you have the guts to use your real names. I would not like to attribute it to cowardness at this stage, i'm sure you all have your reasons. I would like all of you to read the article again and this time, with an open mind. There you'll be able to find the real theme of the article. That is the only time I will participate, so that all of you can learn. You all need to adapt a progressive learning culture in order to live happy lives here in South Africa. Until you do that, you will make stupid comments like the ones that I have seen so far and remain miserable. Happy blogging...or is it 'time wasting'....
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zuckeka or sukeka :p You might be surprised to find out that some of the people that posted here about your ridiculous letter are not white
 
lol - anonymity goes both ways - wonder if this zukeka is the real one?

Either way, better she be able to spell all the English South African names first time - otherwise it will indeed be embarassing.
 
zukeka said:
Is it my imagination or is there an elite number of non-Blacks who have become too sensitive in South Africa? You write one article, and all of a sudden their world stops. Its as if they've lost the very essence of living, stuck to their keyboards writing fruitless words. Because they are all busy responding, trying to defend themselves. Why all the trouble? Its a waste of resources. Hopefully not company resources. What is even worse is that none of you have the guts to use your real names. I would not like to attribute it to cowardness at this stage, i'm sure you all have your reasons. I would like all of you to read the article again and this time, with an open mind. There you'll be able to find the real theme of the article. That is the only time I will participate, so that all of you can learn. You all need to adapt a progressive learning culture in order to live happy lives here in South Africa. Until you do that, you will make stupid comments like the ones that I have seen so far and remain miserable. Happy blogging...or is it 'time wasting'....
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@ zu-ke-ka
You could feed a Nation with that huge chip on your shoulder! :rolleyes:
I had a very easy English surname - Many people could not pronounce it, let alone spell it.
I got married and my surname changed to a very easy and common Afrikaans surname - Still people could not pronounce or spell it.

Stop bitching! It's not something that is unique to you alone and it's hardly worth having a wobbly over!
 
and - just because we complain about your rant, zukeka - it does not make us non-black elite. Sounds like this is a common problem amongst the black elite - everytime someone takes one of you on, we are white whingers.

EDIT: if my tone appears to be implying a racial divide - its only because I have jumped into your sandbox to play.
 
zukeka said:
You all need to adapt a progressive learning culture in order to live happy lives here in South Africa.
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I have nothing to say about your gripe, but the above comment I agree wholeheartedly with.
 
Angelo said:
I have nothing to say about your gripe, but the above comment I agree wholeheartedly with.
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You all need to adapt a progressive learning culture in order to live happy lives here in South Africa.

No. You need to learn that settling for below par is what holds societies back.
 
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zukeka said:
Is it my imagination or is there an elite number of non-Blacks who have become too sensitive in South Africa?
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I agree, and i like the way you point out who's being too sensitive.
 
"Initiatives must be put to hammer the impoliteness of this behaviour and eliminate it."

Ummm so she wants to dictate how people behave. Obviously vulgar or
insulting behaviour should be legislated against, but when someone is
careless or careful (double checks everything) that's now EVIL? :)

Obviously it would be better to move to the Soviet system, everyone will be Comrade, you don't even have to know their name, just say "Comrade"
and at most, you just use their surname, "Comrade Jacob".

Idiotic.

BTW we don't penalise people for not being able to do something, if they're not employed
to do so. You don't punish people for being unable to write or for being
unable to follow directions on the street. Oh this is just sooo stupid, what this
woman wrote :).
 
DigitalSoldier said:
zuckeka or sukeka :p You might be surprised to find out that some of the people that posted here about your ridiculous letter are not white
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My gripe is that this lady wishes to dictate more "thought laws" about
how people think and what they can and can't do. This is what they did
in Cambodia (Kampuchea at the time) and if you didn't show your enthusiasm
for the state ideology well enough you were shot on sight. They did the same
in China, the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. A free society should not
create legislation to force people to behave in a certain way. If
Ms Z doesn't like the way people respond to her name, she should tell them
so but not ask for a general law to force everyone to memorise peoples'
names. Maybe outlawing English and Afrikaans will be next?

Secondly in English there are numerous ways of spelling a name. It's similar
to Japanese, where a name can have one sound but be spelt in many different ways (and have different meanings) in kanji (written Chinese symbols).
Black languages like continental European languages follow simpler
pronounciation and writing rules - an a is an a in German, but in
English an a can be an u or a or o even. An English person will likely struggle
in spelling for these reasons, as he's used to his/her own system.
Making legislation against this is qute draconian.
 
Is it my imagination or is there an elite number of non-Blacks who have become too sensitive in South Africa?
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It's not your imagination, it's very obvious.

I think Guilt is to blame...the emotional responses are a defence mechanism against the feeling of guilt.

But there are ways of dealing with this guilt.
 
Careful Angelo: you are in danger of redefining the term Internet Troll. I suggest you cease your propagandistic rhetoric and relax a little more. Perhaps your blind hatred of people on an anonymous internet forum is a little misplaced.
 
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