BMW Fraud?

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My manager bought a brand new 320i BMW from Sovereign BMW in Bloemfontein. He took delivery of the vehicle on 30 June 2011.

All good right?

Well, not really. According to his maintenance/service book in the vehicle, his maintenance plan expires on 30 June 2016. The dates are written by hand. Start date is 30 June 2011. 5 year maintenance plan as advertised. Still no problems.

The problem comes in when he received a notification from BMW stating that his maintenance plan ends on 31 March 2016 and should he want to increase the length of it, he must purchase a new maintenance plan before the other expires.

Does anybody see the problem here? The date that BMW have on their systems is 3 months short of the date he has for the expiry of the maintenance plan.

So to cut a long story short, he discovered that the date they (BMW SA) have is the "correct" date because the maintenance plan for BMWs (and I assume Minis) starts on the day that a dealer buys a car from the "factory". And if that car spends X amount of time on the showroom floor or the dealer warehouse, then X amount of time is deducted from the maintenance plan. This was of course never explained or disclosed to him and the car was sold with the full 5 year maintenance plan. The dealer even went a step further to hide this fraud by writing the "incorrect" dates into his service/maintenance book.

He has contacted BMW South Africa who have informed him to jump in a river as this is "Standard practice that everybody does". The dealer's solution to the problem was, that he purchase the extension of the maintenance plan if he wants it extended.

Is the above not fraud? Are the prices for these maintenance plans not included in the purchase price? Does this happen at all BMWs? Does this happen at other car manufacturer's dealers?

Anyway, be warned. I was never aware it worked this way. This is just pure assumption, but I assume the reason many more people don't complain about this, is because they purchase their vehicles and sell them before the maintenance plans are up thus never being the wiser.
 
Maintenance or Service plans to my understanding works as follow i.e. 5yrs/100000km. When you service your car as per your dates above say 28 March 2012, then the maintenance plan works from that date etc. It also depends if you reached the kilometers before the 5yrs is up. The 5yrs/100000km means which ever comes first. You can service your car up to 100000km with the 5yrs but if you exceed the kilometers than it expires even before the 5yrs has been reach. Hope this helps. Also read the maintenance/service book.
 
Motor industry ombudsman time.
The plan should be from date of sale to the end user afaik
 
Motor industry ombudsman time.
The plan should be from date of sale to the end user afaik

Agree...no way it can be from when the factory sells the car to the dealer, some cars take months to sell.
 
Same as a warranty on electronic goods etc. Applies from the moment item is purchase via proof of invoice. Same thing with a new car, maintenance plan applies from Day 1 of purchase, and not Day 1 of car landing on dealers floor.

This is very dodgy. never experienced this with VW... I guess maybe this explains the douchery of BMW drivers... they are all just the moer in.
 
It is possible to have a car on the dealer floor without the motor plan being activated. This sounds like a case where the dealer had the plan activated while the car was on the floor for some reason.
 
Anybody with a BMW (bought brand new) that can check their maintenance plan details and if they correspond? As per BMW South Africa's feedback to the client, this practice is the norm.
 
Anybody with a BMW (bought brand new) that can check their maintenance plan details and if they correspond? As per BMW South Africa's feedback to the client, this practice is the norm.

Escalate it to BMW Germany.
 
Anybody with a BMW (bought brand new) that can check their maintenance plan details and if they correspond? As per BMW South Africa's feedback to the client, this practice is the norm.

Technically different companies, but it is not the norm for their motorcycle division.
 
Maintenance or Service plans to my understanding works as follow i.e. 5yrs/100000km. When you service your car as per your dates above say 28 March 2012, then the maintenance plan works from that date etc. It also depends if you reached the kilometers before the 5yrs is up. The 5yrs/100000km means which ever comes first. You can service your car up to 100000km with the 5yrs but if you exceed the kilometers than it expires even before the 5yrs has been reach. Hope this helps. Also read the maintenance/service book.

You added absolutely nothing of value to this conversation.

Did you even read the original post?
 
It is possible to have a car on the dealer floor without the motor plan being activated. This sounds like a case where the dealer had the plan activated while the car was on the floor for some reason.

According to BMW South Africa, even if the car is put in the dealer warehouse the motorplan is activated.
 
There is a term for this (can't remember now), but the dealer shows the car as sold in order to make target. It is at that stage that the motor plan starts, although the car has not been sold. This is often the case if they run specials to get rid of vehicles like this. And if you want to be 100% technically correct, cars like those aren't 'new' cars when they get sold to the owner, but rather 'second hand'. This is an old trick of the trade...
 
There is a term for this (can't remember now), but the dealer shows the car as sold in order to make target. It is at that stage that the motor plan starts, although the car has not been sold. This is often the case if they run specials to get rid of vehicles like this. And if you want to be 100% technically correct, cars like those aren't 'new' cars when they get sold to the owner, but rather 'second hand'. This is an old trick of the trade...

Do you think it is fraud? How does one know if the car is actually sold as "second hand"? Would it be on the registration document somewhere?

What I know for a fact, is that my manager definitely paid FULL new price with no discounts for the car.
 
According to BMW South Africa, even if the car is put in the dealer warehouse the motorplan is activated.
Don't sound right I know someone who got 15K off his BM because the vehicle's motor plan was active for a month prior to him taking ownership
 
I'm referring to their warranty, which in the OPs situation would then seemingly also be from March

Aaah right I'm with you there.

Yeah my Triumph warranty was also applicable from day of delivery.
 
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