Bought car without papers

tarinpe said:
Hi, if anyone can assist with the below situation I'd really appreciate it!

We bought a car, and the only documents we got were the vehicles registration document. The seller of car is not the original owner but we do have contact with the original owner.

The car is not stolen, but was sold multiple times without the papers, according to the original owner. The lisence disk is also behind.

The original owner does not want to give the papers because the person he sold the car too owes him money.

We would like to know how do we get the car on our name and sort out the lisence disk etc without dealing with the original owner? We have already tried simply asking for the papers but he does not want to do that until he gets his money from one of the previous buyers (who we don't know and have no contact info of)

We have messages between both the original owner and the person who sold the car to us explaining this whole situation (after the sale was made)

We are based in Port Elizabeth/ Gqeberha

Please help!
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You have this info beforehand and STILL go ahead with the deal???

 
Went_For_Milk said:
My question is how does the "original owner" keep his current vehicles. As far as I am aware the will not issue you a new license disk if you have a vehicle that is outstanding or with an expired license.

I may be wrong but
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Not just that but I would lie awake at night knowing there was a car out there with my name on it, doing who knows what, no doubt racking up who knows how many speeding fines, not to mention the admin penalties every month the car stays unlicensed. Any car owner that sells a car without transferring it out of their name is just as foolish as someone who buys a car without any papers.
 
Went_For_Milk said:
True but realistically most people own a vehicle
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Funny how that looks like a safe assumption to make, actually most people in SA don't own a vehicle.

But I do get where you are coming from, I find myself looking at people funny when they say they did not have airtime to call, almost like they are telling stories, I don't even recall when last I ran out of airtime, so we do get used to using our own standards of living on others.
 
deweyzeph said:
Not just that but I would lie awake at night knowing there was a car out there with my name on it, doing who knows what, no doubt racking up who knows how many speeding fines, not to mention the admin penalties every month the car stays unlicensed. Any car owner that sells a car without transferring it out of their name is just as foolish as someone who buys a car without any papers.
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Not only that the the guy still isn't too worried about some random stranger driving around in a vehicle that's registered in his name. This guy must have a lot of fines racked up in his name.
 
deweyzeph said:
Not just that but I would lie awake at night knowing there was a car out there with my name on it, doing who knows what, no doubt racking up who knows how many speeding fines, not to mention the admin penalties every month the car stays unlicensed. Any car owner that sells a car without transferring it out of their name is just as foolish as someone who buys a car without any papers.
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Never mind that if there is an accident the damages will have to be settled by the owner if not insured.
 
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