Bring Back The Death Penalty!!

Ricard said:
so killing 20 REAL criminals and 30 innocent people in the name of 'Justice' is OK ?
just collateral damage?

Would YOU take the fall for society?
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dude your arguments cannot justify that we go on living like animals in this country. criminals need to be dealth with accordingly. ATM, they are doing what they want and getting away with it and you are saying that's okay. i'm not.
 
and saying that the death penalty is no deterrence is bull. a serial killer who has been sentenced to death will never commit another crime. a serial killer who is released will commit another crime.
 
Tsimo said:
and saying that the death penalty is no deterrence is bull. a serial killer who has been sentenced to death will never commit another crime. a serial killer who is released will commit another crime.
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exactly. also, in the process, many other future fellons might think twice, since they know what's coming their way if they break the law.
 
Tsimo said:
and saying that the death penalty is no deterrence is bull. a serial killer who has been sentenced to death will never commit another crime. a serial killer who is released will commit another crime.
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I concur, Saddam is dead and it happened fsuking quick too! Wait till one of these despots own family is murdered and then we hear them bicker!
 
OMG !

Not another one of these threads.
There are people for it (Like me) and people against it.

The fact is it will never come back, wish this bloody topic would just die in SA as it's becoming and annoyance more than anything
 
It should be given to the people to decide via a referendum, along with some other issues, but i guess that will never happen. Apparently S.A. has signed some sort of treaty against the penalty.
 
Ady said:
It should be given to the people to decide via a referendum, along with some other issues, but i guess that will never happen. Apparently S.A. has signed some sort of treaty against the penalty.
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Well looks to me they will have to reopen Robben Island with Mbeki the chief warden to look after his creations then!
 
So it's okay to kill someone for something they didn't do? And yeah it's not the death penalty that kill the wrong people, but at least without it we ensure that it doesn't happen.

I also fail to see how the death penalty will solve any of our problems? It isn't going to deter a criminal. It doesn't stop more people from becoming criminals.

I'm sure a rapist or murderer stops before they do whatever it is they're going to do and goes, "Wait, I shouldn't do this. If I get caught, they'll kill me."

Besides, the death penalty is useless unless you can actually get a court to hand down a life sentence because if they don't hand down a life sentence there is no way the death sentence will be handed down.

Whatever the solution to our violent crime problem, the death penalty isn't it.

Where on earth are all these people with absolutely no regard for human life coming from?
 
ebudae said:
So it's okay to kill someone for something they didn't do?
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what are you high? have you ever heard of a thing called court? it's a place where they bring evidence together to convict someone accused of a crime. when they prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the offender is infact guilty, they prosecute them. don't come with the lame innocent people are going to be prosecuted act. your argument is weak at best. this country is in chaos and there is only way to solve it.
 
ebudae said:
Where on earth are all these people with absolutely no regard for human life coming from?
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Africa and South Africa, savages that never evolved. Thats where they come from! A genetic disease in our community! Ditto!
 
Tsimo said:
and saying that the death penalty is no deterrence is bull. a serial killer who has been sentenced to death will never commit another crime. a serial killer who is released will commit another crime.
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If the problem is a criminal being released when they should not have been the death penalty is not going to fix it. If someone who is jailed for life without chance of release gets released, then someone on death row can also be released. Therefore a serial killer sentenced to death can surely commit more crimes.

It has questionable deterrent value in other countries where it is used. If the problem as claimed is that criminals are not getting caught, or when caught are not getting convicted, or after being convicted are being released, then the death penalty cannot address any of these. Any criminals sentenced to death will be entitled to appeal. Cases can be expected to extend for many years. At any time between the time they are first sentenced and when they are executed, they could be released. If the president can arbitrarily pardon those sentenced to life he can do so with those not yet executed. Apparently he is granting presidential pardons often.
 
noxibox said:
Are you high?


Arrest and convict people. If you think executing people is a magic bullet then you really are high.
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You are obviously high... quite happy to pay your hard earned cash (tax) each month in keeping these savages alive. I'd pay my hard earned cash each month to see them executed.
 
mercurial said:
what are you high? have you ever heard of a thing called court? it's a place where they bring evidence together to convict someone accused of a crime. when they prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the offender is infact guilty, they prosecute them. don't come with the lame innocent people are going to be prosecuted act. your argument is weak at best. this country is in chaos and there is only way to solve it.
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noxibox, this is my original quote. don't edit my quotes to make it sound like i said something else. ur making what i said seem like i said something else. this is my original msg. stick to it. don't resort to childish/cowardish tactics to make ur point heard.
 
The death penalty would be a good option if people were irrefutably guilty but assuming that's not possible, lets have sentencing where life actually means life, not 20 years or whatever. If you're sentenced to life the only way you should get out of prison is in a body bag. That and amend the law so people can use lethal force to defend themselves and their property, i.e. the Castle Doctrine.
 
Ady said:
It should be given to the people to decide via a referendum, .....
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A democracy is not the same as majority rule.

If it was that simple we would have the death penalty, everyone would vote to reduce or pay no taxes, a 2 day working week and free bread and milk for everyone.

Unfortunately the majority elect the government and the government then make the rules.

If you want the death penalty restored , the only way is for the majority to vote the ruling party out.

Not going to happen.
 
mercurial said:
noxibox, this is my original quote. don't edit my quotes to make it sound like i said something else. ur making what i said seem like i said something else. this is my original msg. stick to it. don't resort to childish/cowardish tactics to make ur point heard.
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Old trait of him. Always doing just that! Same with rwenzori it must be a mental thing! :D
 
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