Briton executed in China

[Jagtiger]

Serves right for those smugglers. Pity, that introducing such system anywhere else will give opposite effects.

a few glasses of pure ethanol should do the trick.

I thought that Methanol works better.

 

[marine1]

All you guys saying this dude deserves to die - I hope you don't drink or smoke.

Yip, if you go into a country that has the death penalty for these crimes and you act like you are above the law, you get caught and get executed then booohooo shame for you.

 

[Morgoth]

In rome you do what the roman does!, besides this guy wanted to sell dope, ****-up other peoples live, who needs a scum like that in their society?

 

[Ronjay]

All you guys saying this dude deserves to die - I hope you don't drink or smoke.

Actually I don't drink or smoke. However can these 'deadly drugs' that you are so concerned about be compared to Heroin, Cocane and other hard drugs?

Yes these things are bad for you but heroin and cocane are more so. The guy was not smuggling in alcohol or cegirettes, he was smuggling drugs that kill people a lot quicker then booze and smokes.

 

[Ronjay]

Naturally they also execute people for alcohol, cigarettes and coffee. They do right? Think of the families negatively impacted by those drugs.

Are you on any kind of drug? Coffee cegirettes or booze.

Sorry, just a joke.

But have you read your post. Comparing coffee to heroin. And don't tell me you don't drink coffee.

 

[BCO]

Actually I don't drink or smoke. However can these 'deadly drugs' that you are so concerned about be compared to Heroin, Cocane and other hard drugs?

Yes these things are bad for you but heroin and cocane are more so. The guy was not smuggling in alcohol or cegirettes, he was smuggling drugs that kill people a lot quicker then booze and smokes.

A lot more people have died from booze and cigarettes than from coke or heroin.

@ Marine, some laws are unjust and need to be opposed. I don't buy the argument that says "XYZ country's law says this, so anyone who breaks it must suffer the consequences" - what are your thoughts on Sharia law?

 

[Alan]

A lot more people have died from booze and cigarettes than from coke or heroin.

A lot more people booze and smoke in the first place

 

[Lino]

All you guys saying this dude deserves to die - I hope you don't drink or smoke.

It is a LAW, you break it you die. It is not hard science in face it is quiet simple.

If you are at all comparing hard drugs to smoking and alcohol. Then you have a point! Both cause damage to people and families.

 

[Morgoth]

A lot more people have died from booze and cigarettes than from coke or heroin.

@ Marine, some laws are unjust and need to be opposed. I don't buy the argument that says "XYZ country's law says this, so anyone who breaks it must suffer the consequences" - what are your thoughts on Sharia law?

I wouldn't mind having a few Sharia laws in SA, eg chop of the right hand of a theif.

 

[Palimino]

I support China's execution of drug smugglers, and the smugglers are well aware of the risk when they chose to operate in these countries that have the death penalty for this type of crime.
In this case the family of the smuggler claim that he had mental health issues, but isn't this the defence in most cases like this?
Of course the ultimate would be to take out the drug lords, but that's easier said than done.


Briton executed in China

Well put! My only reservation (especially with authoritarian regimes) is that they will spin political crimes into deserving the death penalty.

Political crimes = opposing the regime, not killing people (that’s just murder and a criminal act).

Efforts should be made on making this impossible, not doing away with the death penalty.

 

[noxibox]

And don't tell me you don't drink coffee.

OK, I won't.

Comparing coffee to heroin.

I didn't, but never mind. Have you read the post?

Actually I don't drink or smoke. However can these 'deadly drugs' that you are so concerned about be compared to Heroin, Cocane and other hard drugs?

Yes these things are bad for you but heroin and cocane are more so. The guy was not smuggling in alcohol or cegirettes, he was smuggling drugs that kill people a lot quicker then booze and smokes.

The only thing that kills people with relation to heroin are essentially caused by it is legal status. Cocaine may be harmful when used excessively, but it does that harm over an extended period. Alcohol is the same. So, yes they can be compared.

What is a hard drug? I know it's a cool fear-loaded term that prohibitionists enjoy bandying about, but what does it mean, exactly?

 

[noxibox]

Political crimes = opposing the regime

Like partaking in drugs to which those in power are opposed.

 

[noxibox]

I thought that Methanol works better.

If you want to kill someone ethanol is perfectly poisonous enough. Nicotine too. Both cool drugs, but both will kill you if you ingest too much.

Pity, that introducing such system anywhere else will give opposite effects.

I will guarantee it does nothing to stem the flow of illegal drugs into China. The authorities like to make a big show of arresting people, confiscating large quantities of drugs and in the case of China then killing the minor foot soldier who did the carrying. Now the Chinese authorities may well be dumb or naive enough to think this stops the supply. They wouldn't be alone in that particular delusion. Guaranteed another 40+kg made it across without detection. This would all be rather funny if prohibition was not causing so much harm while not making any difference to the availability of the drugs.

****-up other peoples live, who needs a scum like that in their society?

Prohibitionists are the scum we don't need.

 

[Ronjay]

The only thing that kills people with relation to heroin are essentially caused by it is legal status. Cocaine may be harmful when used excessively, but it does that harm over an extended period. Alcohol is the same. So, yes they can be compared.

What is a hard drug? I know it's a cool fear-loaded term that prohibitionists enjoy bandying about, but what does it mean, exactly?

Tell you what, talk to the families of drug addicts about how they feel about it. Drugs like LSD, Cocaine etc are dangerous dude, if you want to say they aren't, speak to a doctor that has had to try to resusitate an overdose victim who then dies. The problem with these drugs is not that they kill slowly like alcohol but that the druggie keeps needing to have more and more to get high. THAT IS WHY PEOPLE OVERDOSE.

And a hard drug is a chemical that induses halusinations, alters the chemical make up of the brain ( ask any doctor, these drugs do that ), causes physical damage to the body, is addictive to the point that overdoses can occur and the taking of the drug alters the personality of the addict. Speak to any psychologist that treats addicts and they can tell you.

 

[Fudzy]

@ Marine, some laws are unjust and need to be opposed. I don't buy the argument that says "XYZ country's law says this, so anyone who breaks it must suffer the consequences" - what are your thoughts on Sharia law?

Lol, I'd be surprised if you got an answer on this.

 

[Morgoth]

Prohibitionists are the scum we don't need.

so prohibition of drugs is a bad thing, despite the fact that is has major social impacts? all have been proven to be bad for you (including weed). Its best to prevent a problem.

 

[Ronjay]

so prohibition of drugs is a bad thing, despite the fact that is has major social impacts? all have been proven to be bad for you (including weed). Its best to prevent a problem.

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