Can you install your own software when being an IT system admin

SauRoNZA said:
100% you never stop learning.

There are simply too many different flavours and variables involved with thousands of people contributing to an open platform.

Big part of being a system admin is your ability to interpret based on experience.

Often you’ll work on a system someone else might have configured and you need to work it backwards to figure out why they did some things the way they did etc.

In a perfect world there would be documentation but this is rarely the real world case.

It’s also very rarely you’ll find you only sit and only work with one thing all day, depending on what business you are in.

Years ago I ran a couple of Ubuntu servers but also did the MySQL database admin and the ESX platform along with the vSphere backup and replication as well as the local Asterix/Freeswitch server for VOIP and then at the same time ran a massive IVR platform in the Netherlands and a distributed network of Mikrotiks and other networking hardware.

After that I just did *nix all day but as a managed services partner it would be all over the world jumping from RedHat to SunOS to HP-UX to Centos in clusters etc and all sorts in between all with their very own bespoke tricks and tortures.

Now I don’t really get too hands on any more because I manage people but I indirectly oversee a large AWS environment mostly running Amazon Linux and everything in containers in between with basically nothing on premises and even networking in the cloud.

Point is adaptability is what it’s all about and it’s going to be very different from one place to another.
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you are extremely qualified over and over, this was and is your career.I am starting a new one deleting the old.I have a dream and by gawd i am gonna make it
 
SauRoNZA said:
100% you never stop learning.

There are simply too many different flavours and variables involved with thousands of people contributing to an open platform.

Big part of being a system admin is your ability to interpret based on experience.

Often you’ll work on a system someone else might have configured and you need to work it backwards to figure out why they did some things the way they did etc.

In a perfect world there would be documentation but this is rarely the real world case.

It’s also very rarely you’ll find you only sit and only work with one thing all day, depending on what business you are in.

Years ago I ran a couple of Ubuntu servers but also did the MySQL database admin and the ESX platform along with the vSphere backup and replication as well as the local Asterix/Freeswitch server for VOIP and then at the same time ran a massive IVR platform in the Netherlands and a distributed network of Mikrotiks and other networking hardware.

After that I just did *nix all day but as a managed services partner it would be all over the world jumping from RedHat to SunOS to HP-UX to Centos in clusters etc and all sorts in between all with their very own bespoke tricks and tortures.

Now I don’t really get too hands on any more because I manage people but I indirectly oversee a large AWS environment mostly running Amazon Linux and everything in containers in between with basically nothing on premises and even networking in the cloud.

Point is adaptability is what it’s all about and it’s going to be very different from one place to another.
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Absolutely.
Started to learn Zabbix, never used it before. Still try to wrap my head over this thing, coming from Nagios (20+ years).
 
oldBastard said:
Absolutely.
Started to learn Zabbix, never used it before. Still try to wrap my head over this thing, coming from Nagios (20+ years).
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Hah! That is a very tough nut to crack.

Actually sent one of my guys on the training and it was hugely beneficial.
 
running linux on my android phone for on the go study when i have a free time during work hours.I can ssh from here also but i understand that a password is old school and giving a ticket to log in is better.
 

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When you're doing it right you probably won't even use cli any more except for more arcane troubleshooting.

Infrastructure as code, monitoring/observability baked into your build, deployment and provisioning pipelines, Ansible and other automation

But you do need a good understanding of how the OS works and interacts with your hypervisors and applications before you can do that really effectively.
 
Sinbad said:
When you're doing it right you probably won't even use cli any more except for more arcane troubleshooting.

Infrastructure as code, monitoring/observability baked into your build, deployment and provisioning pipelines, Ansible and other automation

But you do need a good understanding of how the OS works and interacts with your hypervisors and applications before you can do that really effectively.
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no need for cli.man that is a dream,i been a windows guy for over 30 years.Running linux for about a year and where ever i go on the net ppl say cli is the most powerfull thing for unix and linux.Windows powershell dont have to many bash commands.

So you run scripts that automate.Ansible
 
oldBastard said:
Erm....care to share? As I find the Zabbix community very clicky on the forum.
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Just the official training through their channels.

It’s quite pricey but is instructor led and was well worth it as he isn’t a stupid guy but also struggled to get to grips with Zabbix and came back from training and immediately upped the game.
 
Sinbad said:
When you're doing it right you probably won't even use cli any more except for more arcane troubleshooting.

Infrastructure as code, monitoring/observability baked into your build, deployment and provisioning pipelines, Ansible and other automation

But you do need a good understanding of how the OS works and interacts with your hypervisors and applications before you can do that really effectively.
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And plenty of CLI while you build those things.

But not much post deployment.
 
kronoSX said:
so when i am ready will you give me a job,money is not an issue,i will work for basically free.
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Not quite how it works.

And you’d need to start using proper punctuation before you even get to an interview.

Proper communication is as important as Linux skills.

If you are changing careers it would probably be best to look at starting at the level of Service Desk Technician/Analyst and working it up from there, nobody is going to let loose a person with 0 years of experience on their servers regardless of their qualifications.

Guys in these positions didn’t just magically “get ready” one day, they’ve been on a journey and that’s where the skills factor into it.
 
SauRoNZA said:
If you are changing careers it would probably be best to look at starting at the level of Service Desk Technician/Analyst and working it up from there, nobody is going to let loose a person with 0 years of experience on their servers regardless of their qualifications.
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@kronoSX I was also going to suggest something along these lines. Get maybe a couple of lower level certs as soon as possible and then apply for jobs that will get your foot in the door - ideally something where skills you already have are of value but you have opportunity to grow in the direction you want to go.

2 or 3 years is a long time to postpone starting to work in the industry, especially if you feel that your age is not on your side.

What @SauRoNZA said about communication skills is true and a widely held view amongst employers. It is generally considered easier to teach tech to someone with good interpersonal skills that vice versa

TLDR - Don't feel you have to master tech before trying to get your foot in the door
 
SauRoNZA said:
Just the official training through their channels.

It’s quite pricey but is instructor led and was well worth it as he isn’t a stupid guy but also struggled to get to grips with Zabbix and came back from training and immediately upped the game.
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Yeah I saw it's like 500Euros!
 
Please don't let this guy anywhere near your server by the looks of it
 
Some of you have a lot of patience.
I'm struggling just watching the OP context switch over and over and over...

Hit a wall --> switch to something new - this isn't how you learn. This is how you repeatedly learn nothing.

As @SauRoNZA has said - try do one thing and try do it well, THEN and only then move on.

As someone who has done multiple Linux vendor exams (SUSE, Red Hat, Linux Foundation, LPIC, Comptia) I'd say stick to Linux Foundation or Red Hat (the gold standard) - use it as a good base foundation and a way to show employers that you've been measured and are capable.

This should be enough to get you a junior admin gig, but you'll be a stuck as a junior until you add in some form of IAC, Cloud, containerisation, networking etc.
 
shadow_man said:
Some of you have a lot of patience.
I'm struggling just watching the OP context switch over and over and over...

Hit a wall --> switch to something new - this isn't how you learn. This is how you repeatedly learn nothing.

As @SauRoNZA has said - try do one thing and try do it well, THEN and only then move on.

As someone who has done multiple Linux vendor exams (SUSE, Red Hat, Linux Foundation, LPIC, Comptia) I'd say stick to Linux Foundation or Red Hat (the gold standard) - use it as a good base foundation and a way to show employers that you've been measured and are capable.

This should be enough to get you a junior admin gig, but you'll be a stuck as a junior until you add in some form of IAC, Cloud, containerisation, networking etc.
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Thanks, will look into that.
 
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