CapeXit 2

[lexity]

It gets worse.... much worse. But that's a taste for Brian_G, after his comment about genocide.

The racist vitriol is off the charts.

These people are entitlement-minded little brats. They deserve to be left to experience the full undiluted consequences of their Socialist paradise.

 

[Brian_G]

Brian_G: Let's be calm and focused, bye

Lex: How very dare you, pay attention to my extreme needs!!

Brian_G:

 

[lexity]

All you need is love...... daa, da-da-da

 

[quovadis]

The racist vitriol is off the charts.

Off the charts eh?

 

[Brian_G]

Bye

(Edit: soon... )

 

[quovadis]

@ToxicBunny is that you?

Something very wrong with you.

 

[Brian_G]

Something very wrong with you.

Not really, just determined to make the world follow his 'excellent perception'. Normal enough given that the world is burning, again.

What's your excuse for trying to do opposite, playing it all down?..


Anyway

 

[quovadis]

Not really, just determined to make the world follow his 'excellent perception'. Normal enough given that the world is burning, again.

What's your excuse for trying to do opposite, playing it all down?..


Anyway

Playing it all down? Bud, I’m simply pointing out his over exaggerations and generalizations are reaching new heights.

 

[lexity]

The laat-lammetjie has no context for that (now deleted) post.

Walzes in as if he's read every interaction between the regulars and starts sticking his nose in like a micro-manager.

 

[lexity]

Its legitimised every election

How many of the people you know who vote in the elections say they are voting for the "lessor evil"?

Be honest.

and every day we are not thrown into civil war.

Being held hostage indefinitely? While the essence of your culture, ideas and core moral code is threatened, legally?

That's not freedom. That's not liberty.

#stockholm-syndrome

 

[lexity]

So, thanks, Snek.

We have another participant in the latest "Internal UDF document" round of True-or-False?

Anyone else who is interested in having your say, here is your opportunity. The question is....

Is this quoted claim true? Or is it false?

There was an internal UDF document, in which they said that the ultimate objective of the UDF was to liberate SAns from the voracious monster that is Capitalism but that this could not be disclosed to people because most SAns were pragmatic and it would limit the support that the UDF could gain.

If there's no-one else, I will close the round, and we can discuss the context of the claim.

 

[lexity]

Can anyone legally in South Africa move to the Western Cape currently? Yes

Would they be able to do so if the WC was independent? No

Do you believe all South Africans need to agree to this? No

Ergo, mutual consent is only of interest to you when it suits you.

End of.

Not so fast, there, bucky....

vigras:
Can anyone legally in South Africa move to the Western Cape currently? Yes

Actually, it depends where you want to move to.

It's still(for the moment) illegal for you to move onto private property in the WC and pitch a tent in someone's back garden.

Would they be able to do so if the WC was independent? No

It's perfectly legal to move to the UK, the USA, Australia, Canada.

You just have to respect the rules that govern, locally.

It need be no different in the Cape Republic.

Do you believe all South Africans need to agree to this? No

Need to agree to what.... you not having to abide by local laws?

Ergo, mutual consent is only of interest to you when it suits you.

Geez, you have a fundamental block, it seems, when it comes to how to interact with people peacefully i.e. consentually.

The right to association extends equally to all. By that rationale/moral precept aka "equality before the law", means that in order for the right to be respected you require the consent of any party you want to associate with.

As opposed to requiring permission from an uninvited 3rd party.

The only time you would require permission is to escape and existing agreement/contract, presumably in order to escape the penalty clause. Otherwise you are free to go. This is not a society that should be tolerant of slavery/coerced association.

This is why Commies are considered anti-social. They think the right to associate means that nobody can refuse their offers association, and once an association is formed, it cannot be reversed out of.

It's a brutish mode of force, dressed up as an appeal to humanitarian ideals and sentiment.

 

[quovadis]

How condescending.


This is exactly the kind of condescension you find in those in favor of the Anglosphere assuming the role of policeman of the world.... because the little people don't know what is best for them.

Not condescending at all. Everyone who’s ever engaged you on specifics has realised even you don’t know what the plan is and at the very least have no appreciation for the complexity of what you’re advocating for.

 

[BBSA]

Previous thread's link for ref.: CapeXit? Separatists bid to split South Africa

The people who partook in that thread had serious issues; I think they call it Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder.

 

[Brian_G]

The people who partook in that thread had serious issues; I think they call it Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder.

Same as this thread.... which you are now also participating in..

 

[Brian_G]

Pleez y'all, stop speaking to me, can't reach escape velocity :-/

 

[Cray]

Actually, it depends where you want to move to.

It's still(for the moment) illegal for you to move onto private property in the WC and pitch a tent in someone's back garden.

That applies to the rest of SA too.

It's perfectly legal to move to the UK, the USA, Australia, Canada.

You have to get permission from those countries though and they don't just give them to anyone.. Now, at the moment, I am free to drive down to the Western Cape requiring no visa or passport. Cape independance would remove at least one of those rights.

The right to association extends equally to all. By that rationale/moral precept aka "equality before the law", means that in order for the right to be respected you require the consent of any party you want to associate with.

Only on private property, if you don't want to associate with someone else on public property you are free to remove yourself but I certainly don't require permission from random peeps like you to move freely around. Or will the Independant WC not have any public spaces?

This is why Commies are considered anti-social. They think the right to associate means that nobody can refuse their offers association, and once an association is formed, it cannot be reversed out of.

Are these commies in the room with us now?

 

[Brian_G]

Are these commies in the room with us now?

Apparently we're all commie Pinko's in this new thread.

I've stopped conversing with the general-Libertarian-type-or-similar impractical ranter, endless circles largely unrelated to the subject with no actual destination.

 

[lexity]

Pleez y'all, stop speaking to me, can't reach escape velocity :-/

Brian_G's boomerang vortex..... is that the inbound or outbound journey?

 

[lexity]

@BBSA

True? Or False? ....

There was an internal UDF document, in which they said that the ultimate objective of the UDF was to liberate SAns from the voracious monster that is Capitalism but that this could not be disclosed to people because most SAns were pragmatic and it would limit the support that the UDF could gain.