CapeXit 2

Poll is for all in South Africa -

  • Do you believe W/Cape secession from the Republic is feasible ?

    Votes: 28 34.1%

  • Would you support a bid for W/Cape to secede from the Republic ?

    Votes: 33 40.2%

  • In the event of secession being successful, would you consider migrating to W/Cape ?

    Votes: 23 28.0%

  • In the event of secession being successful, would you consider migrating out of W/Cape ?

    Votes: 3 3.7%

  • Would you support other provinces bids for secession ?

    Votes: 20 24.4%

  • I disagree to all questions

    Votes: 35 42.7%

  • Would you support a "Swiss Canton" style of governance for the Republic ?

    Votes: 24 29.3%
  • Total voters
    82
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quovadis said:
There is no unilateral legal secession possible. Ask Phil. Get back to us. Heck, ask ChatGPT - you’re quite tight lately.
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And where did anyone in this thread deny that one wonders.. but it's still WC who would decide such actual action alone in the end.
Anyway, perhaps attend a Phil presentation somewhere and pose your questions to him, or write to him. We're just lightly discussing their Q&A tonight.
 
Brian_G said:
And where did anyone in this thread deny that one wonders.. anyway, perhaps attend a Phil presentation somewhere and pose your questions to him, or write to him. We're just lightly discussing their Q&A tonight.
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Ok so not denying that then why do I need to consult Phil?
 
lexity said:
Ha!

You're just salty that your application for e-residence in a budding libertarian-ordered nation was rejected.
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:ROFL:


Anyway forget it, Lex, this will be the only WC Secession thread. Besides which, non-aggression is most people's desire and goal
 
quovadis said:
There seems to be quite a bit of a disconnect in this thread with how the world works.
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Bro I did state my question wasn't serious, it was just a curious idea to see who would actually say yes to Cape Independence and who would be against it, of course all hypothetical.

So if the voting poll was open next week, would it be a Yay or Nay from you ?
 
Seriously though, Lex, try not to get this thread closed by being constantly off topic. May not be another opportunity.

Once in a while.. fine by me, but I didn't make the new rules so maybe not even
And no, if you're offered a finger you don't take the whole arm.

Seeya around fellow nutcase.
 
Brian_G said:
Seriously though, Lex, try not to get this thread closed by being constantly off topic. May not be another opportunity.

Once in a while.. fine by me, but I didn't make the new rules so maybe not even
And no, if you're offered a finger you don't take the whole arm.

Seeya around fellow nutcase.
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I only noticed the "new" rule now...

Cheers @Brian_G see you in 30 again :p
 
NoStepOnSnek88 said:
Bro I did state my question wasn't serious, it was just a curious idea to see who would actually say yes to Cape Independence and who would be against it, of course all hypothetical.

So if the voting poll was open next week, would it be a Yay or Nay from you ?
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nay
 
Previous thread's link added to post #2.


Old thread stat: Completed in 20 months @ 15.9 posts per day.

(@FiestaST still beat us with his usual 20.6 posts average :oops: )


Brian_G said:
:ROFL:


Anyway forget it, Lex, this will be the only WC Secession thread. Besides which, non-aggression is most people's desire and goal
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In anticipation of usual response - no Lex, FoA considerations although always of importance are not directly related to WC secessionists' motivation of moving away from the abusive ANC "government". Tripping up that interest with as such intense distractive waffle is therefore considered punishable with regular public floggings.



/exits stage, finds a nice beach
 
Brian_G said:
In anticipation of usual response - no Lex, FoA considerations although always of importance are not directly related to WC secessionists' motivation of moving away from the abusive ANC "government". Tripping up that interest with as such intense distractive waffle is therefore considered punishable with regular public floggings.



/exits stage, finds a nice beach
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Quit yer bitchin, Brian_G..... there are enough digital trees on the internet for every member of the CIM to have their say.

I thought pinkos were supposed to be in favor of diversity...... or is it just not diversity of opinion?

p.s. In future, any more of this narrow-mindedness will get a link back to the offer I posted yesterday re: pro-NAP-capexit and anti-NAP-capexit threads. So cork your cake-hole and instead try to come up with something a little more interesting to say than trying to shout down differing or unusual views.
 
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Vrotappel said:
Only the people of the WC need to care. The rest of SA does not matter in this decision.
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Those in favor of democracy should want this split because in both the newly seceded Cape and the old Rainbow Nation, the strength of support for each government will go up, not down.

While it is true that the norm is for the group seeking to secede an area afford everyone in that area an opportunity to vote YES/NO, rather than everyone in the group outside that area, I wouldn't say the rest of SA "doesn't matter" in the decision.

But they are expected to respect the right to freedom of association.

The right to FoA should never be applied selectively. All parties to a group should be there by consent. If you don't have every member's consent, it's by definition a group that relies on coercion for its membership.

And it goes the other way, too. As soon as any sub-group within the newly seceded Cape wants to break-away, again, those in the Cape Republic should be expected to respect their right to do so. The vote would again extend only to the area sought to be seceded.

iirc(perhaps a good one to confirm via search/ai), there isn't a single example of an independence referendum, going back 50 years, that consulted those outside the area being seceded.
 
[QUOTE="lexity, post: 34125697, member: 641052"

iirc(perhaps a good one to confirm via search/ai), there isn't a single example of an independence referendum, going back 50 years, that consulted those outside the area being seceded.
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Perhaps that's why they routinely fail.
 
vigras rojara said:
[QUOTE="lexity, post: 34125697, member: 641052"

iirc(perhaps a good one to confirm via search/ai), there isn't a single example of an independence referendum, going back 50 years, that consulted those outside the area being seceded.
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Perhaps that's why they routinely fail.
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This business of consulting everyone outside the group, to essentially get their permission to leave the political union is one of the clearest litmus tests there is, in terms of just who has an authoritarian itch to scratch.

When those lending their support, to the eternally ungrateful, decide to withdraw it and give it to someone else, who is a little more grateful and much less abusive, then the wailing begins.

If you could just see yourselves. You're a sight for sore eyes.
 
lexity said:
Perhaps that's why they routinely fail.
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This business of consulting everyone outside the group, to essentially get their permission to leave the political union is one of the clearest litmus tests there is, in terms of just who has an authoritarian itch to scratch.

When those lending their support, to the eternally ungrateful, decide to withdraw it and give it to someone else, who is a little more grateful and much less abusive, then the wailing begins.

If you could just see yourselves. You're a sight for sore eyes.
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You're proposing removing current freedom of movement from the majority of a country's population without their consent. You can't seem to understand that people might not be too keen on that.

So much for your precious FoA.
 
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