Car advice

[hj2k_x]

Renault Clio perhaps. I personally hate the thing but my mom and friends own them and they swear by it. 1.2 is surprisingly zippy up hills

Hehe, funny you should mention that. I have always fancied the elder sister of the Clio, the Megane, but that is a bit out of my range for now.

The Clio is a bit girly but I have heard good things...Dunno about servicing and getting parts and the like - have heard horror stories in that regard...

 

[Alan]

Hehe, funny you should mention that. I have always fancied the elder sister of the Clio, the Megane, but that is a bit out of my range for now.

The Clio is a bit girly but I have heard good things...Dunno about servicing and getting parts and the like - have heard horror stories in that regard...

I don't recall any complaints. My Mom has had two breakdowns though. Flat battery and a sensor fell off. 2006 model owned it for 2 years. I'll have to ask about my friends car's history.

I hate driving it. Clutch takes so high I knee myself in the throat lol.

 

[adamr]

quickly without going through the entire thread ...

you have a 2005 model car with 65 000km ... try and find another car in that league with that year model and mileage and you will find its pretty tough to come by ... my advice keep the car, get an aircon installed ...

 

[quik]

Haha, if you mean I don't know much about cars then that is not really true

My main concern about diesels is that they generally cost more and still sound to me like tractors.

Cost more in which regard? My last service on my 2006 Golf 5 TDI DSG cost me R1.2k, which is not bad for a bigger car, so the polo should be less. Also take into consideration that the service intervals are the same as petrol cars and that you get up to 20km/l milleage. I've done 1100km on a single tank (55l) of diesel in my golf, which is quite a bit heavier than the polo. Also, looking at a older model polo TDI might put it into your price bracket. Insurance on these cars are not as bad as everyone makes it out to be, my 2006 Polo 1.6 comfortline costs R850pm to insure, taking into consideration that it's insured for R140k, so a model valued at R70k should be almost half that to insure.

Renault Clio perhaps. I personally hate the thing but my mom and friends own them and they swear by it. 1.2 is surprisingly zippy up hills

Dear lord, stay away from any smaller french car, like it's the plague !!! Trust me on this one... I know of several people who've owned Clio's where the car's electronics just dies, and you have to get the car towed to renault to get it fixed, and if it's not under factory warranty, you're gonna pay quite a bit to get it running again. Also, in every instance this happened the car stood for at least a week, with my friends complaining that the service from Renault was quite bad.

 

[Brawler]

Go for the Toyota Yaris, been driving mine for 4 years, happy as ever, economic as ever and safe as a house.
The Middle of the range "T3+" has all the bells & whistles as well...
Second hand ones come in at about R90k.
Worth a look.

A 1.3 Yaris would be a good car, preferably the spirit sedan but will be closer to R120 second hand

The Yaris is relatively safe for its price range but definately not safe as a house LOL. Youtube Yaris crash tests..

Seriously? I drove the Yaris way back when and the plasticy feel of the car really put me off.
Biased much You base this assumption on what?

What's wrong with VW, I have a polo and a Golf 5 and they are the best cars I've ever owned. I still think in the small car category the polo is the best buy. Just sit in a polo versus a yaris and immediately you notice the difference in build quality, there's just no comparing.

hj2k_x... If you look at a 2004/5 polo TDI, you can pick one up between R50-R70k, services are cheap and the milleage is unbelievable. You won't have hassles with the aircon or inclines either... they have plenty of torque

Jeez, I don't know if you have driven a new polo 1.4 but I have the misfortune of hiring once a month or so and they are the terrible The doors do not even have any clothe on, just made out of super cheap plastic. And for some reason they all sound terribe even with <30k on the clock. And this is a R140000 car!

Im sure a 1.9Tdi would be way better though, although way more expensive. Be careful of those dodgy turbos on the earlier models.

 

[koeks]

quickly without going through the entire thread ...

you have a 2005 model car with 65 000km ... try and find another car in that league with that year model and mileage and you will find its pretty tough to come by ... my advice keep the car, get an aircon installed ...

i also think he should just keep the car. pay it up then and also get an aircon installed. i mean his car is well taken care of. my citi is a 2007 model with 87000km on the clock. stick ot your citi man. in a few months you will have a car that is paid off. just keep on paying your insurance premiums... and the thing about fuel economy... it's a citi how bad can it be?
just remove the velociti stickers and the guys will look elsewhere

if you get a tazz you will get one with 90000km going for R60k... toyota is over priced

 

[quik]

I don't know if it's possible with a citi, but i know lots of the small cars these days have their air conditioners running off an electrical motor, which puts less load on the engine than it running off the fanbelt. Might be an option

+1 for keeping your existing car, unless you can find a serious bargain without incurring additional debt

 

[spiderz]

Since your going to be re-finance the new car, and not buy it cash, look at all 2005 or newer models on autotrader to see whats available.
Also remember that since it's a buyers market currently, you don't pay more that 80% of trade value for a second hand car. So bargain with the dealers. They should be accommodating, since sales are at a all time low.

I got a 2005 VW Jetta 1.9TDi for R70k on a auction. (Insured for R110k), but auctions is a hit and miss affair. They don't always have what your looking for and you must only buy if its a bargain.

 

[hj2k_x]

quickly without going through the entire thread ...

you have a 2005 model car with 65 000km ... try and find another car in that league with that year model and mileage and you will find its pretty tough to come by ... my advice keep the car, get an aircon installed ...

Hehe, you needed to go through the entire thread

I am not interested in the same year model and mileage. I posted what I need in the OP...

 

[hj2k_x]

Cost more in which regard? My last service on my 2006 Golf 5 TDI DSG cost me R1.2k, which is not bad for a bigger car, so the polo should be less. Also take into consideration that the service intervals are the same as petrol cars and that you get up to 20km/l milleage. I've done 1100km on a single tank (55l) of diesel in my golf, which is quite a bit heavier than the polo. Also, looking at a older model polo TDI might put it into your price bracket. Insurance on these cars are not as bad as everyone makes it out to be, my 2006 Polo 1.6 comfortline costs R850pm to insure, taking into consideration that it's insured for R140k, so a model valued at R70k should be almost half that to insure.

I just thought that the old chestnut that diesels cost more to buy first of all and to maintain, still held true. The fuel economy you have quoted is certainly worth looking into. That should add up to quite a saving per month in itself.

My only concern is that the cars that are diesel and that will fall into my humble price range will likely be Polos and Golfs, which are just as stolen as my Velo I really don't want to park somewhere and have to worry if my car is gonna be there when I get back


Dear lord, stay away from any smaller french car, like it's the plague !!! Trust me on this one... I know of several people who've owned Clio's where the car's electronics just dies, and you have to get the car towed to renault to get it fixed, and if it's not under factory warranty, you're gonna pay quite a bit to get it running again. Also, in every instance this happened the car stood for at least a week, with my friends complaining that the service from Renault was quite bad.[/QUOTE]

This is what I have heard when it comes to small French cars as well...

 

[hj2k_x]

A 1.3 Yaris would be a good car, preferably the spirit sedan but will be closer to R120 second hand

The Yaris is relatively safe for its price range but definately not safe as a house LOL. Youtube Yaris crash tests..



Jeez, I don't know if you have driven a new polo 1.4 but I have the misfortune of hiring once a month or so and they are the terrible The doors do not even have any clothe on, just made out of super cheap plastic. And for some reason they all sound terribe even with <30k on the clock. And this is a R140000 car!

Im sure a 1.9Tdi would be way better though, although way more expensive. Be careful of those dodgy turbos on the earlier models.

Hmmm, some conflicting views here then...

 

[hj2k_x]

i also think he should just keep the car. pay it up then and also get an aircon installed. i mean his car is well taken care of. my citi is a 2007 model with 87000km on the clock. stick ot your citi man. in a few months you will have a car that is paid off. just keep on paying your insurance premiums... and the thing about fuel economy... it's a citi how bad can it be?
just remove the velociti stickers and the guys will look elsewhere

if you get a tazz you will get one with 90000km going for R60k... toyota is over priced

I hear what you are saying and I love my Velo dearly. We have been through a lot together and she has never let me down. But I just feel it is time for something better and less of an insurance risk.

My fuel economy gripe stems from the fact that I only get around 500km off a tank at best which is not great. Also, I drove a hired Megane sedan for a month and got exactly the same fuel economy driving the same routes with aircon on as I do in my Velo with no aircon, and that Megane was the size of a small boat in comparison

 

[JK8]

This is gonna be a long one, so bear with me

I have a 2005 VW Velociti which is about to be paid off at the bank (R8000 odd owing). I was going to wait till then, save some cash and then trade it in for something worth around R60k or so. But now, it seems I am probably gonna have to sell it sooner. So I have quite a few questions in this regard:

These are the full specs:
VW Velociti 1.4i
2005 model
65k on the clock
original condition
new front tyres
serviced at 15k, 30k, 45k and 60k

1) What would I be looking at selling it for? Autotrader seems to suggest around the 60k mark?

2) Would I be better off selling it privately? Like how much is a dealership gonna rip me off in a trade-in situation? I'd prefer not to have the hassle of a private sale, nor the risk that is attached to it.

3) Assuming I were to sell it tomorrow, with the R8k still owing, what would I be able to get in this economic climate with the cash left over? ( don't want any finance or anything) These are the requirements:

Aircon
4 doors
Central locking, alarm, power steering
Good fuel economy but a decent engine ( I don't want to battle up hills with the aircon on)
Cheap servicing/parts
Must be reliable (not like anyone would say this is not a requirement, but still )
Low insurance premiums (no nothing like another Citi/Polo which is a target for theft)
Obviously as low mileage as possible...

If you have read this far, I thank you and look forward to any feedback/comments

Thanks

H

Your car is worth more if it gets stolen lol!! But dont try that....

As for a replacement... its between all the girly cars.... Mazda2, Clio, Fiesta and Polos... but you 4 doors and I think only the Polo has 4 doors...
Id recommend a 2nd hand Polo GTi!

 

[Pitbull]

This is gonna be a long one, so bear with me

I have a 2005 VW Velociti which is about to be paid off at the bank (R8000 odd owing). I was going to wait till then, save some cash and then trade it in for something worth around R60k or so. But now, it seems I am probably gonna have to sell it sooner. So I have quite a few questions in this regard:

These are the full specs:
VW Velociti 1.4i
2005 model
65k on the clock
original condition
new front tyres
serviced at 15k, 30k, 45k and 60k

1) What would I be looking at selling it for? Autotrader seems to suggest around the 60k mark?

2) Would I be better off selling it privately? Like how much is a dealership gonna rip me off in a trade-in situation? I'd prefer not to have the hassle of a private sale, nor the risk that is attached to it.

3) Assuming I were to sell it tomorrow, with the R8k still owing, what would I be able to get in this economic climate with the cash left over? ( don't want any finance or anything) These are the requirements:

Aircon
4 doors
Central locking, alarm, power steering
Good fuel economy but a decent engine ( I don't want to battle up hills with the aircon on)
Cheap servicing/parts
Must be reliable (not like anyone would say this is not a requirement, but still )
Low insurance premiums (no nothing like another Citi/Polo which is a target for theft)
Obviously as low mileage as possible...

If you have read this far, I thank you and look forward to any feedback/comments

Thanks

H

Sell it for R 60k then after setlement you should have about R 55k cash right.
Then buy an old Nissan 2.0STi - about R 40k cash. Use the balance to sort out the second hand issues and you will have a keeper. Those cars are AWESOME and they come with everything including leather seats. You will struggle to find another 2.0 with all those features for that price.

 

[hj2k_x]

Since your going to be re-finance the new car, and not buy it cash, look at all 2005 or newer models on autotrader to see whats available.
Also remember that since it's a buyers market currently, you don't pay more that 80% of trade value for a second hand car. So bargain with the dealers. They should be accommodating, since sales are at a all time low.

I got a 2005 VW Jetta 1.9TDi for R70k on a auction. (Insured for R110k), but auctions is a hit and miss affair. They don't always have what your looking for and you must only buy if its a bargain.

Hey there, I was thinking of the auction route. My dad bought two cars from an auction ten years ago - they were cheap cheap but did a job...

I think that you missed the part where I said that I do NOT want to have to re-finance the new car. Want to straight trade my dear Velo for something else..

It seems the consensus is tending towards holding onto her and getting aircon installed. Which is odd, cos the last time I asked about aircon in a Velo, I was quote more than R8k and most people on here were of the opinion that that money would be better spent on the deposit for a new car...

 

[hj2k_x]

Your car is worth more if it gets stolen lol!! But dont try that....

As for a replacement... its between all the girly cars.... Mazda2, Clio, Fiesta and Polos... but you 4 doors and I think only the Polo has 4 doors...
Id recommend a 2nd hand Polo GTi!

Mazda2's are not bad. And not too girly

 

[hj2k_x]

Sell it for R 60k then after setlement you should have about R 55k cash right.
Then buy an old Nissan 2.0STi - about R 40k cash. Use the balance to sort out the second hand issues and you will have a keeper. Those cars are AWESOME and they come with everything including leather seats. You will struggle to find another 2.0 with all those features for that price.

*searches Autotrader for said car

 

[koeks]

I hear what you are saying and I love my Velo dearly. We have been through a lot together and she has never let me down. But I just feel it is time for something better and less of an insurance risk.

My fuel economy gripe stems from the fact that I only get around 500km off a tank at best which is not great. Also, I drove a hired Megane sedan for a month and got exactly the same fuel economy driving the same routes with aircon on as I do in my Velo with no aircon, and that Megane was the size of a small boat in comparison

bur trust me... 500km of a 45L tank is okay... it's not the best but it's cool. i don't even know how much i get all i know is that when it's time to fill up i do so... if you get that Megane and something breaks you will remember your citi

you can do the service yourself... cheap to maintain, everything is cheap, well except insurance btu try miway

 

[hj2k_x]

bur trust me... 500km of a 45L tank is okay... it's not the best but it's cool. i don't even know how much i get all i know is that when it's time to fill up i do so... if you get that Megane and something breaks you will remember your citi

you can do the service yourself... cheap to maintain, everything is cheap, well except insurance btu try miway

Yeah man, I hear ya. Cheap to maintain she has been. The fuel economy of those diesels is looking interesting right now. I don't cover that many kilometres a month, but any saving is great in my books.

 

[JK8]

Mazda2's are not bad. And not too girly

It looks like an Estee Lauder compact thingy with wheels