Carnivore diet

BBSA said:
Agee, but I would add all refined carbs and seed oils to the list of things to cut out.

Why not go carnivore if it helps with autoimmune connections, mental health, and general well-being?
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Mental health? Man you go into depression eating Carnivore and keto. Same thing every day. The most boring diet there is. Just meat and eggs, and maybe the odd selective veg if you on keto/banting.
No problem if you do it a few months to loose weight, but to keep eating boring like that, never. Could just as well stop living.
The biggest reason people loose weight on Carnivore is because it becomes a hassle to take time to make something every meal that is just the same as every other day. So they start skipping meals. So essentially they are just doing intermitted fasting.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
Mental health? Man you go into depression eating Carnivore and keto. Same thing every day. The most boring diet there is. Just meat and eggs, and maybe the odd selective veg if you on keto/banting.
No problem if you do it a few months to loose weight, but to keep eating boring like that, never. Could just as well stop living.
The biggest reason people loose weight on Carnivore is because it becomes a hassle to take time to make something every meal that is just the same as every other day. So they start skipping meals. So essentially they are just doing intermitted fasting.
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Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
Mental health? Man you go into depression eating Carnivore and keto. Same thing every day. The most boring diet there is. Just meat and eggs, and maybe the odd selective veg if you on keto/banting.
No problem if you do it a few months to loose weight, but to keep eating boring like that, never. Could just as well stop living.
The biggest reason people loose weight on Carnivore is because it becomes a hassle to take time to make something every meal that is just the same as every other day. So they start skipping meals. So essentially they are just doing intermitted fasting.
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Oh, so it isn’t the increase in fat burning mitochondria, the decrease in fat storing insulin spikes, increased energy expenditure due to decreased inflammation (also a cause of depression) and increased nutrient intake, improved liver due to not being clogged up by fructose, decreased hunger pangs due to stable blood sugar levels, ….

???
 
Saitama said:
Oh, so it isn’t the increase in fat burning mitochondria, the decrease in fat storing insulin spikes, increased energy expenditure due to decreased inflammation (also a cause of depression) and increased nutrient intake, improved liver due to not being clogged up by fructose, decreased hunger pangs due to stable blood sugar levels, ….

???
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Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
Mental health? Man you go into depression eating Carnivore and keto. Same thing every day. The most boring diet there is. Just meat and eggs, and maybe the odd selective veg if you on keto/banting.
No problem if you do it a few months to loose weight, but to keep eating boring like that, never. Could just as well stop living.
The biggest reason people loose weight on Carnivore is because it becomes a hassle to take time to make something every meal that is just the same as every other day. So they start skipping meals. So essentially they are just doing intermitted fasting.
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I've said it before... I don't care about food. Would eat kibble if it was healthy. Waste of fekking time and money. So blerry unproductive :p

Carnivore has got simplicity going for it. Make a beeline in the store. Stick the steak in the oven or fryer... done.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
Mental health? Man you go into depression eating Carnivore and keto. Same thing every day. The most boring diet there is. Just meat and eggs, and maybe the odd selective veg if you on keto/banting.
No problem if you do it a few months to loose weight, but to keep eating boring like that, never. Could just as well stop living.
The biggest reason people loose weight on Carnivore is because it becomes a hassle to take time to make something every meal that is just the same as every other day. So they start skipping meals. So essentially they are just doing intermitted fasting.
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Not to mention your gut internal biome and micronutrient intake must be a mess. The list of vitamins required to be healthy doesn't stop at B12
 
Bobbin said:
I've said it before... I don't care about food. Would eat kibble if it was healthy. Waste of fekking time and money. So blerry unproductive :p

Carnivore has got simplicity going for it. Make a beeline in the store. Stick the steak in the oven or fryer... done.
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....at the risk of inciting a religious war here ;) and yes there is probably some obscure and gross way of gettin these from animal sources such as uncooked whale liver - a handful of spinach is far more practicle for everyone involved

There are some nutrients you just can’t get from meat​

You need 13 vitamins in order to live, and though you can actually get most of them from eating a variety of meats, you’re going to miss out on some crucial ones if you totally forego flora. Folate, along with vitamins C and E, pretty much only come from veggies, mostly green leafy ones and citrus. This is why sailors used to get scurvy—not enough vitamin C in their largely fish- and other-meat-based diets. Plus, if you don’t get enough vitamin E your body can’t use vitamin K as well, so even though you’re getting enough from fish, liver, and beef you won’t actually be able to make use of it.
 
Wow, I've been on a carnivore diet for 5 years and still haven't developed scurvy. I don't even show signs of vitamin C deficiency.

It's probably because you don't need a lot of vitamin C if you eat a diet that doesn't cause inflammation.
 
Tim_vb said:
....at the risk of inciting a religious war here ;) and yes there is probably some obscure and gross way of gettin these from animal sources such as uncooked whale liver - a handful of spinach is far more practicle for everyone involved

There are some nutrients you just can’t get from meat​

You need 13 vitamins in order to live, and though you can actually get most of them from eating a variety of meats, you’re going to miss out on some crucial ones if you totally forego flora. Folate, along with vitamins C and E, pretty much only come from veggies, mostly green leafy ones and citrus. This is why sailors used to get scurvy—not enough vitamin C in their largely fish- and other-meat-based diets. Plus, if you don’t get enough vitamin E your body can’t use vitamin K as well, so even though you’re getting enough from fish, liver, and beef you won’t actually be able to make use of it.
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I speak under correction, but I think it's coming out that some of those nutrients are in adequate supply for a carnivore dieter in even just a rump steak (or where the RDA is under question), whereas others are only required in combination with eating carbs ... or as in the case of those sailors in combination with the hardtack and other crap they preserved and stored long term and ate.

And for example, looking at how our understanding of cholesterol has evolved in just the last few months/years ... it shows our long-held scientific consensus on these things are now being challenged when before it seemed unquestionable.

Not saying you're wrong, just saying I honestly just don't know anymore. More long-term studies are lacking on the carnivore side.

Unfortunately, our entire understanding of these nutrient requirements is purely based on one mode of consumption ... omnivorous. Which in itself is a "self-fulfilling confounding factor" for lack of a better term. Meaning you need the nutrients because you're eating in a manner that needs those nutrients, and so to then assume the same nutrients are needed in another mode of consumption (and metabolic pathway) might be scientifically wrong. Even for example when comparing the effects of "increased meat consumption" and attributing those risks to an ALL-meat diet... which I see some studies do. I'm like... guys, come on. I ain't no scientist... but for fook sakes :D
 
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32kg down.

Have slowly added back a bit of occasional cheese. Also allow myself some almonds, macadamia's and Lindt 85% on weekends.

Still buying bulk ribeye 5-7kg's at a time and not tired of it in the slightest.

Smashing Woolworths fashion vouchers when available to slowly replace my oversized wardrobe.
 
FlashSA said:
32kg down.

Have slowly added back a bit of occasional cheese. Also allow myself some almonds, macadamia's and Lindt 85% on weekends.

Still buying bulk ribeye 5-7kg's at a time and not tired of it in the slightest.

Smashing Woolworths fashion vouchers when available to slowly replace my oversized wardrobe.
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Well done!

How long were you on a meat-only diet, and did you eat any organ meats?
 
How much protein do you guys eat per kg of lean body mass? And do you do any moderate or intense strength training to go with it?
 
What weekly meal plans are out there that can be utilised to safely implement a nutritious, well-balanced and sustainable 'Carnivore Diet' effectively? Pondering a change to a more effective diet plan... I already include all of these in my meals...

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