Chiropractor

itsme2 said:
Go do some research. Chiropractors are NOT doctors, and should never be allowed to call themselves such. Their psuedo-science is a bunch of hogwash, based on myth and esoteric lies. It's as fake to real medicine as homeopathy and is not based on ANY science or actual proof. The fact that idiots let these sharlatans near their babies is proof that Darwin is certainly alive and well. Same league as Reiki and those toxin absorbing foot pads.
When will governments ban them from calling themselves Dr.? Thats where the problem starts. Avoid them like the plague.
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And who are you? Sounds like regurgitating internet crap to me. Why is your stance on the topic or their profession such an aggressive one? Care to give context to your opinion at all?

Cant help but think that people who comment like this do so in ignorance. Chiros have their places, and they have sorted my back out when nobody else has been able to.
 
eehellfire said:
Medicine over time has also had its share of weirdness and quackery. It's evolved.
I believe the same of chiropractic practice. I've seen the evolution in the way I've been treated over the years. Way more tissue therapy, less manipulation, some dry needling, electro stimulation, in fact much of the treatment really resembles physiotherapy treatment.

On the other hand, I don't believe homeopathy has evolved at all. That is pure quackery.
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It hasn't evolved? Where has it evolved? They are still doing the exact things they were doing back in the 50s, probably before. Modern medicine falls under strict guidelines and there are many checks and balances, yes there has been some weird things but it's evolved as science has evolved. Chiropractic hasn't evolved at all.
But hey if you want a quack, cracking your back go for it. I'd prefer to go for something more scientific and end up paying less.
 
Lupus said:
It hasn't evolved? Where has it evolved? They are still doing the exact things they were doing back in the 50s, probably before. Modern medicine falls under strict guidelines and there are many checks and balances, yes there has been some weird things but it's evolved as science has evolved. Chiropractic hasn't evolved at all.
But hey if you want a quack, cracking your back go for it. I'd prefer to go for something more scientific and end up paying less.
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Ok. Agree to disagree.
 
Surv0 said:
And who are you? Sounds like regurgitating internet crap to me. Why is your stance on the topic or their profession such an aggressive one? Care to give context to your opinion at all?

Cant help but think that people who comment like this do so in ignorance. Chiros have their places, and they have sorted my back out when nobody else has been able to.
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And you don't know how science works, anecdotal evidence isn't scientific. Just because it possibly worked for you, doesn't mean it's actually a valid source of relief. Chiros do not have their place, they are akin to homeopaths and other quacks.
But if you're happy to constantly see one to "fix" your back go for it. Rather then actually trying to find the real problems. Not to mention that the chiro might actually be causing the issues in the first place if you've got to go to the constantly.
 
I.am.Sam said:
so what do you suggest Dr Lupus
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Well I'm as much a medical doctor as a chiropractor so... Don't go to a chiropractor. But you'll get people who swear by them as it's anecdotal. Same as you'll get people swearing by homeopaths and psychics.
 
Lupus said:
But if you're happy to constantly see one to "fix" your back go for it. Rather then actually trying to find the real problems. Not to mention that the chiro might actually be causing the issues in the first place if you've got to go to the constantly.
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You seem to think the manipulation of musculature and the body is equivalent to the ridiculous dilution of substances just because they're both not 'proper medicine'. Because we've created a standard for what qualifies as acceptable treatment, all things that fall outside of that standard are equivalently stupid?
 
saor said:
You seem to think the manipulation of musculature and the body is equivalent to the ridiculous dilution of substances just because they're both not 'proper medicine'. Because we've created a standard for what qualifies as acceptable treatment, all things that fall outside of that standard are equivalently stupid?
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There's a reason you get things called science and pseudo science, medicine and alternative medicine. One is real, the other is outside the scope and is equivalently stupid.
https://health.spectator.co.uk/the-evidence-shows-that-chiropractors-do-more-harm-than-good/
 
Lupus said:
Well I'm as much a medical doctor as a chiropractor so... Don't go to a chiropractor. But you'll get people who swear by them as it's anecdotal. Same as you'll get people swearing by homeopaths and psychics.
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urgh. was typing a reply but got bored.. moving on.

nothing to see here
 
Lupus said:
And you don't know how science works, anecdotal evidence isn't scientific. Just because it possibly worked for you, doesn't mean it's actually a valid source of relief. Chiros do not have their place, they are akin to homeopaths and other quacks.
But if you're happy to constantly see one to "fix" your back go for it. Rather then actually trying to find the real problems. Not to mention that the chiro might actually be causing the issues in the first place if you've got to go to the constantly.
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Yes, you know all about me and my problems and the various experts Ive seen.. your opinion must be gold. Dont be a presumptuous fool.
 
saor said:
You seem to think the manipulation of musculature and the body is equivalent to the ridiculous dilution of substances just because they're both not 'proper medicine'. Because we've created a standard for what qualifies as acceptable treatment, all things that fall outside of that standard are equivalently stupid?
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So I wast trying to understand Lupus' vehemence on this subject.
Seems he's right (and wrong). Chiropractic seems to have been founded on the principal that any disease or ailment can be cured by spinal manipulation. I didn't know this. My chiros (I've had several over the years) have absolutely never advocated this and I was pretty surprised to find it out now.
The only place where efficacy of chiropractic treatment is not really debated (any more than other equivalent treatments, anyway) is related to the management of back pain.
Since back pain was my reason for visiting a chiro, I never looked further and I guess I consider myself a little better informed now.
 
eehellfire said:
So I wast trying to understand Lupus' vehemence on this subject.
Seems he's right (and wrong). Chiropractic seems to have been founded on the principal that any disease or ailment can be cured by spinal manipulation. I didn't know this. My chiros (I've had several over the years) have absolutely never advocated this and I was pretty surprised to find it out now.
The only place where efficacy of chiropractic treatment is not really debated (any more than other equivalent treatments, anyway) is related to the management of back pain.
Since back pain was my reason for visiting a chiro, I never looked further and I guess I consider myself a little better informed now.
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There is no efficacy of chiropractic medicine, because they aren't akin to the proper controls and regulations of medicine. Alternative medicines don't follow the same practices, so it's actually even hard to tell how many people have died from chiropractic manipulation.
 
You need a DBC (Document based care) centre.
http://dbcsa.co.za/

I had chronic back since forever, minor scoliosis.
They first do an assesment, then put you on a program.
They have specialised machines to strengthen certain areas of your back for support.
They first start with these exercises and then perform physiotherapy in one session
They accept most medical aids and I havent spent a cent and completed the entire program.
However I went in twice a week for six weeks and then again once a month for six months

After two years since treatment , I have had no issues, but it seems I need to go back as I have havent been doing the exercises they prescribed
I went for treatment at (I prefer the Cape Town branch)

Dr Lienka Botha and Partners
CAPE TOWN CENTRE404A, 4th Floor, Harrington House
37 Barrack Street
Cape Town
8000
021 461 2457
086 230 1074
[email protected]

Dr Lienka Botha and Partners
NORTHERN SUBURBS CENTRE
Unit 5
19 Pasita Street
Bellville
7550
021 914 2301
021 914 1970 [email protected]
 
dielaksman said:
Sounds basically exactly like what I am experiencing at the moment. It will be fine for a while, then just a wrong movement or sitting on a certain type of chair and it is back.
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It can be SUCH fun, even looking at something at juuust too great an angle left/right for a little too long can bother it!

Your pillow can also make a difference and never ever ever ever sleep on your tummy...
 
Lupus said:
There is no efficacy of chiropractic medicine, because they aren't akin to the proper controls and regulations of medicine. Alternative medicines don't follow the same practices, so it's actually even hard to tell how many people have died from chiropractic manipulation.
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Thats because its unheard of... go on, find a few examples to prove this point? I havent found any, especially in recent years.

Spinal subluxation treatment via adjustments can be good for people, is good for people. You cant actually deny this. Maybe as mentioned above, you are against some other things they may have been known to do, but in 99% of the cases subluxation applies and chiro helps with this.

I mean if we were to go on about quack psuedo science... why do Medical doctors kill more people than any other similar field? Oh yes, lets ply with foreign chemicals and hope to kill off the problem.. Yes lets compare this to something that treats the body without medicine and claim that profession is the bad one. It has its place, as with medical doctors, but dont be so ignorant as to think that 'True' doctors are innocent from misdiagnosis, incorrect treatment and unnecessary deaths of their patients, every year.
 
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