Colonialist naming practices were skin-deep

Angelo said:
Not a coconut, in fact every time I come into contact with the youth I teach them about our history and about Afrikan pride, it's one of my missions.
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Do you mean the history of OUR country - or by "our history" do you mean black history?

I think I know the answer.
 
Skeptik said:
Do you mean the history of OUR country - or by "our history" do you mean black history?

I think I know the answer.
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I was responding to edc's implication that I'm a coconut'. Most of the 'coconut' traits are caused by a lack of identity as a result of the country/continent's past which was culturally and socially oppresive to the Afrikan. By teaching black history I help the youth to be comfortable with who they are.
 
Since when did we start spelling African with a k by the way?

Angelo, do you include the Afrikaaner and English history in there as well? because as far as I'm concerned in this country, our histories are all intertwined, and none of us would be where we are today without the other... both good and bad.
 
edc said:
Saint Petersburg, is informally known as Piter (Питер) and was formerly known as Petrograd (Петрогра́д, 1914–1924) and Leningrad (Ленингра́д, 1924–1991).

On January 24, 1924, three days after Lenin's death, Petrograd was renamed Leningrad in his honor. The central committee's reason for renaming the city again was that Lenin had led the October revolution.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, on June 12, 1991, a bare majority (54%) of the population decided to restore "the original name, Saint Petersburg," on September 6, 1991.

So they fixed what they changed after a vote.

The difference between them and the ANC is they don't rename towns with significance to the white minority, like Potchefstroom to Tlokwe, in spite. Lenin was a great figure, but Putin did not name Leningrad, Putingrad or Beer.
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Ta to you and Syndrye. I knew it was one of the dictators.
 
Angelo said:
I was responding to edc's implication that I'm a coconut'. Most of the 'coconut' traits are caused by a lack of identity as a result of the country/continent's past which was culturally and socially oppresive to the Afrikan. By teaching black history I help the youth to be comfortable with who they are.
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How can anyone take a teacher of African history seriously if they cannot spell it.:rolleyes:

(& I thought my spelling was getting worse ;) )

Seriously though, which text book do you use?
 
Skeptik said:
How can anyone take a teacher of African history seriously if they cannot spell it.:rolleyes:

(& I thought my spelling was getting worse ;) )

Seriously though, which text book do you use?
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Any idiot can run a spell checker. It's the content that counts.
So, just because someone doesn't run a spell checker or decides to
forego correcting his typos, it doesn't mean that he is mentally deficient
in some way.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Since when did we start spelling African with a k by the way?
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Was influenced by literary giant Es'kia Mphahlele's Afrikan Affirmations.
ToxicBunny said:
Angelo, do you include the Afrikaaner and English history in there as well? because as far as I'm concerned in this country, our histories are all intertwined, and none of us would be where we are today without the other... both good and bad.
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Yes, and I agree with you...black history in South Africa inevitably involves the English and the Afrikaaner.
 
Oh so you're taking literary license with the spelling... ok fair enough, but the official spelling is African, and I do hope you aren't confusing the youth with your choice of spelling.

No, see now that is not what I'm talking about.. and the way you word it is entirely negative.

I'm saying that all three cultures history are intertwined, both good and bad... the is no inevitability, or unfortunately.. they just are... it comes from spending nearly 200 years in the same geographic space. We have all learned from each other, picked up habits and mannerisms from each other. If anything, it is a testament to how humans can work together that we still have 3 or 4 very vibrant cultures in this country.
 
"He started it!"

Angelo said:
Toxicbunny started it, he should have left my 'Afrika' alone.
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haha. I almost did not read forums today. "He started it!"
rofl. "He started it!"
lol!
 
Woohoo!!!... i made someone read the forums today....

In all honesty Angelo, I was just curious as to where you had picked up that specific spelling.

And yes, the colonials called this continent "Africa" but since its their language I tend to err on their side in terms of spelling as well.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Woohoo!!!... i made someone read the forums today....

In all honesty Angelo, I was just curious as to where you had picked up that specific spelling.

And yes, the colonials called this continent "Africa" but since its their language I tend to err on their side in terms of spelling as well.
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I'm glad you acknowldge that "Africa" is not "official" but rather what the colonialists erroneously called Afrika. Fits nicely into this thread's title.
 
Angelo said:
I'm glad you aknowldge that "Africa" is not "official" as such but rather what the colonialists called Afrika.
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What is the origin of "Afrika" then? It sounds Germanic which would also be colonialist.
 
Actually, no. I am saying Africa is official since it is the official English spelling of the continent, and has been accepted worldwide as the spelling.
 
Angelo said:
Toxicbunny started it, he should have left my 'Afrika' alone.
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The name Africa came into Western use through the Romans, who used the name Africa terra — "land of the Afri" (plural, or "Afer" singular) — for the northern part of the continent, as the province of Africa with its capital Carthage, corresponding to modern-day Tunisia. The Afri were a tribe — possibly Berber — who dwelt in North Africa in the Carthage area. The origin of Afer may be connected with Phoenician `afar, dust (also found in most other Semitic languages). Some other etymologies that have been postulated for the ancient name 'Africa' that are much more debatable include: the Latin word aprica, meaning "sunny"; the Greek word aphrike, meaning "without cold" (see also list of traditional Greek place names). This was proposed by historian Leo Africanus (1495-1554) who suggested the Greek word phrike (φρίκη, meaning "cold and horror"), combined with the negating prefix a-, thus indicating a land free of cold and horror. However, as the change of sound from ph to f in Greek is datable to about the 10th century, it is unlikely this is the origin. Ancient Africa lay to the west of Egypt, while "Asia" was used to refer to Anatolia and lands to the east. Originally Egypt and the Levant had an indeterminate position between these locations, though as part of the Persian empire they were sometimes absorbed in the loose concept of "Asia". A definite line was drawn between the two continents by the geographer Ptolemy (85 - 165 AD), indicating Alexandria along the Prime Meridian and made the isthmus of Suez and the Red Sea the boundary between Asia and Africa. As Europeans came to understand the real extent of the continent, the idea of Africa expanded with their knowledge.
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Now... is there a K in there? you really are being anal-retentive.

Edit: A googlefight
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Africa&word2=Afrika

281,000,000 results : Africa
77,100,000 results : Afrika
 
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