COPE = Epic fail?

If we go on their election campaigns alone, surely all parties need to rethink their strategies..

ANC: A better life for all.
DA: Vote to win / Stop Zuma
COPE: DA must join them if they want to be successful (From PB. TBH I haven't seen that.)

Which of these slogans is anywhere close to being achieved?
 
Hold your horses people.

Only 3 million votes counted and almost all rural.The way i see it,Cope is doing better than the ID with these votes,even in WC where Id used to be strong.

When the real votes start to come in i expect those numbers to change very dramatically.The ID sadly will just become a regional party.

Word just came in from Enews:Cope is making inroads in the WC...votes from Mitchells Plain...A DA stronghold.
 
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If we go on their election campaigns alone, surely all parties need to rethink their strategies..

ANC: A better life for all.
DA: Vote to win / Stop Zuma
COPE: DA must join them if they want to be successful (From PB. TBH I haven't seen that.)

Which of these slogans is anywhere close to being achieved?

What was the prize?:D
 
For sure but i feel they will only achieve this when they change their campaign. Stop Zuma? Surely they can come up with something better than that.
True, I agree with that. All I'm saying is that writing their campaign off as a failure is patently false. I think the Stop Zuma campaign was silly. Obviously he was big in the news and they tried to capitalize off that. I'm sure they'll rethink their campaign before the next election though :)
 
And let’s look at the Stop Zuma campaign. It is clear that a lot of the downtrodden masses view Zuma as someone who is close to them, who will listen to their gripes and do something about that (something which unfortunately for them I fear they will find is not true).

So given that it seemed the majority of the black poor population see Zuma in this light, a Stop Zuma campaign can’t really get you that bigger push in terms of votes. At best it is a consolidating type move.
 
True, but I think it's unrealistic to expect a traditionally white party to overthrow an African liberation movement in 5 years. Rather watch for them to take 20%+ of the vote in the next election and then to build again from there in the one after.

No but they have not done enough to get the black vote, they have a white women in power for goodness sake, as good as she is this is not bringing in the black vote.

Find a decent black guy and get out there and let the people know your a party for all races and not just whites,colours,indians,lebanose, portguese, italian, chinese, sorry don't want to offend gary in calling some people whites again.

Gary is going to cry o why should they go black that is racist but in life you need to be realistic and in this Country a white run party has no 0 chance of winning. Change the outlook on your party and look to the black community more to get votes.

yea milo this is my point, the DA need someone to look realistically at were they are going and how they can there.
 
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If we go on their election campaigns alone, surely all parties need to rethink their strategies..

ANC: A better life for all.
DA: Vote to win / Stop Zuma
COPE: DA must join them if they want to be successful (From PB. TBH I haven't seen that.)

Which of these slogans is anywhere close to being achieved?

All the parties are dirty liars!
Zille 'Stop ANC getting 2/3rds majority!' (But don't remind the people that ANC had 2/3rds anyway).'A better life for all'-a better life for the ANC cronies in government,no one else.
 
Dude your making this into a racial thing which i am not understanding but go ahead carry on looking like an idiot, all good by me :).

I'm making this into a racial thing??? That's rich! You are the one who stated that the DA is "too white"! Do you even read your own posts?
 
I personally think the DA has a long time strategy. One province at a time. They started with Capetown and now have the WC, I hope Gauteng is their next target :)
 
No but they have not done enough to get the black vote, they have a white women in power for goodness sake, as good as she is this is not bringing in the black vote.

Find a decent black guy and get out there and let the people know your a party for all races and not just whites,colours,indians,lebanose, portguese, italian, chinese, sorry don't want to offend gary in calling some people whites again.

Gary is going to cry o why should they go black that is racist but in life you need to be realistic and in this Country a white run party has no 0 chance of winning. Change the outlook on your party and look to the black community more to get votes.

+1 change the face of the party.let Helen run it but change the face. Tokyo Sexwale someone?
 
What was the prize?:D

A free ride on the gravy train. Choo - choo!

True, I agree with that. All I'm saying is that writing their campaign off as a failure is patently false. I think the Stop Zuma campaign was silly. Obviously he was big in the news and they tried to capitalize off that. I'm sure they'll rethink their campaign before the next election though :)

Stop Zuma seems to me to have appealed to people who were already core DA voters. If the DA wants to get beyond 12 /15% they're going to have to reach out to people outside of that group. And "Stop Zuma is not the way to go.
 
If we go on their election campaigns alone, surely all parties need to rethink their strategies..
How bout a new party - NSA
The NEW SOUTH AFRICA party

Slogan - The ANC liberated us from apartheid now lets move on and build a NATION!

Modern ANC friendly party instead of an anti ANC party anyone wanna try that?
 
No but they have not done enough to get the black vote, they have a white women in power for goodness sake, as good as she is this is not bringing in the black vote.

Find a decent black guy and get out there and let the people know your a party for all races and not just whites,colours,indians,lebanose, portguese, italian, chinese, sorry don't want to offend gary in calling some people whites again.

Gary is going to cry o why should they go black that is racist but in life you need to be realistic and in this Country a white run party has no 0 chance of winning. Change the outlook on your party and look to the black community more to get votes.

I'm not going to cry about anything. Was just pointing out your ignorant and incorrect statement. The DA is not primarily a "white party". Deal with it and quit whining like a sad child.

Indian and coloured people are not "white" no matter how much you may wish it so... and it is racist and inconsiderate of you to make such a statement.
 
I'm coloured and yes he only means....MINORITY VOTE...no big deal.

Thank you, now gary if you want to start a racial flame war start a thread somewhere else because it is clear everyone knows what i am saying and for some your changing it into something racially motivated, go try get under my skin in another thread please.

How many here think the DA is not looked at as a white party from majority of blacks in this country?
 
killadoob. It was the old apartheid doctrine that anyone who was not white was inferior and had no soul. They lumped all of the other races into one group "non-whites" and treated them as inferior. Are you wanting to take us back to those days? You want only two categories, "black and white"?... and throw everyone who is not "pure-black" into the white category?
 
Thank you, now gary if you want to start a racial flame war start a thread somewhere else because it is clear everyone knows what i am saying and for some your changing it into something racially motivated, go try get under my skin in another thread please.

How many here think the DA is not looked at as a white party from majority of blacks in this country?

WTF??? you are the one who started with the racial divisions. Nobody had said anything about race until you made the statement that the DA is "too white". quit being such an idiot and maybe you might have people treating you as an adult once in a while.
 
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