Cricket world cup discussion thread

Awesome win today - will give the guys some self belief - at the halfway point, the sage one in our family (namely me) pontificated that if we're as good as we think we are, we should win from this position - phew, thank goodness!
 
Just read about 25 pages of comments on the match today. Saw the emotions start off in agony (at the beginning of India's innings) turn to elation (towards the end of India's innings), return to agony (at about the middle of our innings) and back to elation when we won :D. Well done SA :).

Just for the record, the girls were smokin' :p.

@ Picard, does she have a sister? :p
 
Thought I check out NDTV(407) to see the indians reaction. One of their pundits is Dean Jones, he dawns a graduation out fit and goes by the name Professor Deano. And he refered to South Africa has Shrek . A big ugly green monster.....
 
Amazing game yesterday...I'm loving all these high scoring games when teams actually attempt to chase it down...makes for great viewing.

In yesterday's match though, Kallis was batting like it was a test match, I thought he was over that whole "protect my average, not my strike rate" thing but I guess I was wrong. In any case, I'm glad we took it!
 
feo said:
In yesterday's match though, Kallis was batting like it was a test match, I thought he was over that whole "protect my average, not my strike rate" thing but I guess I was wrong.
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his batting average was only marginally lower than amla's. I seem to recall a certain run chase for a moderate total where Kallis scored 14 off 15, so batted at the popular strike rate, but lost his wicket and SA the match. There is this process in cricket called building an innings and another process called seeing off the new ball. We paced the innings to perfection. 75~80 is kallis's strike rate. His position in the batting line up is 3 and his job is to build a big innings, consolidate at the top of the batting order and see off the new ball if early wickets have been lost.
 
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his batting average was only marginally lower than amla's. I seem to recall a certain run chase for a moderate total where Kallis scored 14 off 15, so batted at the popular strike rate, but lost his wicket and SA the match. There is this process in cricket called building an innings and another process called seeing off the new ball. We paced the innings to perfection. 75~80 is kallis's strike rate. His position in the batting line up is 3 and his job is to build a big innings, consolidate at the top of the batting order and see off the new ball if early wickets have been lost.
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I think people have gotten used to seeing fast paced batting. Now a more traditional approach to one day batting (i.e. score at 5 an over for the first 40 overs and then start swinging) is looking slow. The innings played by SA yesterday would have been seen as normal 10 years ago, now it's slow.
 
 
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his batting average was only marginally lower than amla's. I seem to recall a certain run chase for a moderate total where Kallis scored 14 off 15, so batted at the popular strike rate, but lost his wicket and SA the match. There is this process in cricket called building an innings and another process called seeing off the new ball. We paced the innings to perfection. 75~80 is kallis's strike rate. His position in the batting line up is 3 and his job is to build a big innings, consolidate at the top of the batting order and see off the new ball if early wickets have been lost.
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He needs to be adaptable. He had to bat around Amla.
Kallis plays like a robot, puts away the bad balls, blocks the good balls, under pressure that system doesn't work, ie: twenty20 WC against Pakis, Gul & co were bowling well Kallis was blocking RR 9/over...

Oh well, a win is a win... Hope all the big teams make the quarters.
 
 
[Quattro];5754913 said:
He needs to be adaptable. He had to bat around Amla.
Kallis plays like a robot, puts away the bad balls, blocks the good balls, under pressure that system doesn't work, ie: twenty20 WC against Pakis, Gul & co were bowling well Kallis was blocking RR 9/over...
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Robot=machine. I agree, legend... I agree Kallis isn't suited to the 20/20 game.

Oh well, a win is a win... Hope all the big teams make the quarters.
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Should be..
 
Ronjay said:
I'm talking about if a team had to chase a score of 300. But the boys have always left it late to accelerate the run rate. One of the reasons SA get caught by the DWL system.
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So the way to play then is how India played yesterday...?? Let's say SA batted 1st and scored 300. So here's India's batting card...

http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc_cricket_worldcup2011/engine/current/match/433586.html

We still won. Whether the winning runs are scored by the openers or the number 9 batsman, they still got to be scored. You can't dictate the pace of an innings based on possible weather conditions either and starting ahead of the required run rate doesn't guarantee victory either, England match case in point.. There's a fine line between chasing a big total, taking chances and/or patiently building an innings. In the last 10 overs of a match with wickets and a batting power play in hand on the sub continent a team can easily score at 8-11 runs an over if required...
 
sandmanm34 said:
So the way to play then is how India played yesterday...?? Let's say SA batted 1st and scored 300. So here's India's batting card...

http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc_cricket_worldcup2011/engine/current/match/433586.html

We still won. Whether the winning runs are scored by the openers or the number 9 batsman, they still got to be scored. You can't dictate the pace of an innings based on possible weather conditions either and starting ahead of the required run rate doesn't guarantee victory either, England match case in point.. There's a fine line between chasing a big total, taking chances and/or patiently building an innings. In the last 10 overs of a match with wickets and a batting power play in hand on the sub continent a team can easily score at 8-11 runs an over if required...
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I aint arguing. LOL. Just giving an explanation as to why people are saying Kallis, Smith etc are batting slow. I'm not saying that SA should change their plan at all.
 
Did anybody else notice India blatantly cheating since their first match? Despite Raina not being in the starting 11, he's ALWAYS on the field when India are fielding. You cannot tell me that all their fielders always get injured at different points of the innings to warrant Raina fielding for 35+ overs in every innings. WTF are the umpires doing about this?
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Did anybody else notice India blatantly cheating since their first match? Despite Raina not being in the starting 11, he's ALWAYS on the field when India are fielding. You cannot tell me that all their fielders always get injured at different points of the innings to warrant Raina fielding for 35+ overs in every innings. WTF are the umpires doing about this?
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Oh yeah? I hadn't noticed, but if that's the case, surely it can't be allowed.
 
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