Currie Cup too white - ABSA

[zamicro]

Very stupid statement from a blue chip company - is it possible that ABSA are looking for an exit strategy?

Times are hard.

Since they have just become the new Springbok sponsors, I do not think that is the case.

 

[mak2000]

When will people realize that transformation is a slow process and needs to start at the grass-root levels. You need to encourage the previously disadvantaged to participate and then let the talent come through to the top. I would much prefer to have a team that is say 90% white but with almost 80% at grass root from the previously disadvantaged group. Eventually the cream will rise to the top. These quick fixes such as BEE are just cosmetic and do not result in true transformation.

Agree with Greg that they should look at their own board first.

 

[Milano]

Transformation shouldn't be a slow process. It should be swift, immediate and final. If there are wrongs, why slowly correct them? If you had a situation of racist, xenophobic attacks would you limit the SAPS to arresting a maximum of ten people every five years. Of course not. This whole transformation things is complete and utter hypocrisy. If there are wrongs then make them right immediately. 90% black rugby starting immediately. Stop banking the money and screaming transformation at the same time. Kiss the money goodbye and transform immediately. I want 90% black teams and I want them now across the board at all levels!

 

[zulgin]

When will people realize that transformation is a slow process and needs to start at the grass-root levels. You need to encourage the previously disadvantaged to participate and then let the talent come through to the top. I would much prefer to have a team that is say 90% white but with almost 80% at grass root from the previously disadvantaged group. Eventually the cream will rise to the top. These quick fixes such as BEE are just cosmetic and do not result in true transformation.

Agree with Greg that they should look at their own board first.

and yet discrimination based on race is a human rights violation, now matter how you try and justify it.

 

[mak2000]

Swift transformation almost always leads to chaos ! You only have to look across the border what happens when in one swift move property was "reallocated". In the end nobody benefited. Thats not transformation its take-over.

 

[Pitbull]

Let them do it, they must do it now. They are using supporters' money to slowly change the game to suit their racist agenda. Change the teams NOW! All SA teams, national and provincial must be 90% black starting immediately! Do it!

See how many spectators you have. See how many 3N and WC's you win. Do it! Now!

No, they don't have the balls to do it. Fact is, it will be 90% black one day - but it will happen gradually as has been the case WHILE they milk dumb-ass whites who will pay for transformation.

Do it now! Tired of threats & sick of paying for it. Grow some balls .gov & ABSA. Fulfill your racist agenda. Change it now and let them play to empty stands with no 3N contract renewals. Do it!

While you're at it make the SA swimming team black too.

Why does the NBA in the US not reflect demographics? Why does the US heavyweight division not not reflect US demographics? That is a non-racist society.

Sadly SA remains a racist society, this shows the racist agenda. Continue - but do it now! Grow some.

This comment killed me dead

 

[mak2000]

and yet discrimination based on race is a human rights violation, now matter how you try and justify it.

Exactly the reason you provide the previously disadvantaged with access at grass root levels. encourage them to take up the sport and then let them rise through the ranks without discrimination

 

[Milano]

Thats not transformation its take-over.

Pull your head out the sand. That is exactly what it is. Slow or fast. Still a takeover. If you can't see the hypocrisy, sorry for you. Let's stop tip toeing around it. It is not about merit. It is about numbers. I want to support a racist society, I want 90% black rugby now irrespective of merit!

 

[mak2000]

Slow or fast. Still a takeover.

Why is it a take over if the better black players get into the team?

 

[Milano]

Why is it a take over if the better black players get into the team?

It is calculated and manipulated around numbers. It is a demand for transformation. It is not based on merit. It is enforced. It is racist. It is sick.

 

[zulgin]

Exactly the reason you provide the previously disadvantaged with access at grass root levels. encourage them to take up the sport and then let them rise through the ranks without discrimination

equal opportunities at grass route level sure, if the kid wants to play give him a shot, but discriminate based on merit, not race ON ALL Levels, or else you are once again....trying justifying a human rights violation.

It is not fair to exclude anyone. and how long before the previously disadvanced are still disadvanced? Verwoerd also had good justifications for his job reservation policy....

 

[zulgin]

Swift transformation almost always leads to chaos ! You only have to look across the border what happens when in one swift move property was "reallocated". In the end nobody benefited. Thats not transformation its take-over.

yeah, yeah, slow or fast racism... its still racism boet.

 

[mak2000]

It is calculated and manipulated around numbers. It is a demand for transformation. It is not based on merit. It is enforced. It is racist. It is sick.

I think you are being racist. You seem to think that there are no(can never be) black players that are better than their white counterparts.

 

[Milano]

I think you are being racist. You seem to think that there are no(can never be) black players that are better than their white counterparts.

Ooh, look, you put words in my mouth!

Yes, I want to support a racist Apartheid society, I want 90% black rugby now irrespective of merit!

 

[Milano]

I think you are being racist. You seem to think that there are no(can never be) black players that are better than their white counterparts.

Yes, 5 players must be black. Or 10 players must be black. Or 15 players must be black. No, that is not racist! That is merit!

 

[Milano]

I think you are being racist. You seem to think that there are no(can never be) black players that are better than their white counterparts.

You seem to think that 5 positions filled by black players will always be better than if those positions were filled by white players? You don't even know who the players are! You must be the racist if you think enforced transformation is better than merit in sport.

 

[zulgin]

Yes, 5 players must be black. Or 10 players must be black. Or 15 players must be black. No, that is not racist! That is merit!

"I am are not prepared to accept the antiquated, simplistic and racist approach that South Africa consists of a black majority and a white minority" - Groot Krokodil himself

 

[DigitalSoldier]

It is calculated and manipulated around numbers. It is a demand for transformation. It is not based on merit. It is enforced. It is racist. It is sick.

Thomas Jefferson said it best:

There is nothing more unequal than the equal treatment of unequal people

I wonder what ABSA will do once the white people start taking their business elsewhere.

 

[mak2000]

Ooh, look, you put words in my mouth!

Yes, I want to support a racist Apartheid society, I want 90% black rugby now irrespective of merit!

The way things are going ( Malema + Cosatu), your wish might come true sooner rather than later.

 

[zulgin]

The way things are going ( Malema + Cosatu), your wish might come true sooner rather than later.

ah ok, so you just showed your racist colours, thanks.