Cyberpunk 2077

[Splinter]

If peeps are going to pirate, then go with a repacker like FitGirl. Patch should be released in a day or two.

Why on earth are you giving pirates advice?

 

[Fulcrum29]

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haha. When your 'espanol buddy*' brings you home, as he enters the garage (from the 1st rescue missing) he must have flipped on the hand brake for one log ass slide until he stops. You can hear the tires screeching all the way in.

*chikka! chikka! I see someone liked the male tag along character from shadow of the tomb raider.

For me it sounded more like a shot power steering system.

 

[Splinter]

They made $479,920,000.00 just from preorders

What nonsense are you talking, again? Who made almost half a billion dollars from pre-orders?

 

[Fulcrum29]

Why on earth are you giving pirates advice?

Just trying to steer them away from tainted loot.

 

[Rickster]

What nonsense are you talking, again? Who made almost half a billion dollars from pre-orders?

CD Projekt RED, they claimed 8 million people pre-ordered. 8,000,000 x $59.99 = $479,920,000

 

[Surv0]

I'd say piracy probably creates more business and sales for devs, especially small ones, than without it.

 

[Splinter]

Just trying to steer them away from tainted loot.

Well let them eat malware, if they want to pirate. FFS.

 

[Splinter]

CD Projekt RED, they claimed 8 million people pre-ordered. 8,000,000 x $59.99 = $479,920,000

They did this claim? Source?

Regardless, what does that have to do with you being a pirate. It's like bank robbers going, well, they have billions, so we are entitled to steal.

 

[Fulcrum29]

CD Projekt RED, they claimed 8 million people pre-ordered. 8,000,000 x $59.99 = $479,920,000

That is a gross inaccuracy, most sales was made in CIS/Russian territories. Hardly the $60. CDPR have also suddenly stood up against piracy, calling out grey key market sellers.

Also… apparently, the key algorithm they use is said to be very predictable, grey key market sellers could easily determine a range and resell it. I question how CDPR is auditing their keys though… it must be allocated. They have called out CDKeys.

I am saying it now, the day the online component is introduced, CDPR is going to request to tie your game to a GOG account or the RED launcher. The only way establish a closed ecosystem should they monetise which they are going to do seeing how much GWENT is making them.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Well let them eat malware, if they want to pirate. FFS.

It is impossible to stop gaming piracy. It will only end once there is a complete migration to the cloud where new IP can be protected. It is very much the same as with cheating in online games.

 

[Rickster]

They did this claim? Source?

Regardless, what does that have to do with you being a pirate. It's like bank robbers going, well, they have billions, so we are entitled to steal.

Besides, I didnt mention anything about piracy in my post about the cash they made, just pointed it out.


Listen, I know all of us in the thread have been sucking on CDPR's knob because of TW3 but the amount of times piracy has saved me from **** games is justified.

Is this game currently worth R799? No.

If it was polished and bug free? Hell yeah.

When it gets 100% fixed in a few months would I buy it for R799? Yes!

 

[Splinter]

It is impossible to stop gaming piracy. It will only end once there is a complete migration to the cloud where new IP can be protected. It is very much the same as with cheating in online games.

Yes. But why are you helping it?

 

[Splinter]

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Besides, I didnt mention anything about piracy in my post about the cash they made, just pointed it out.


Listen, I know all of us in the thread have been sucking on CDPR's knob because of TW3 but the amount of times piracy has saved me from **** games is justified.

Is this game currently worth R799? No.

If it was polished and bug free? Hell yeah.

When it gets 100% fixed in a few months would I buy it for R799? Yes!

BS. I have bought the game, knowing it has a lot of bugs. I will get the updates later.

I'm pretty sure you have "forgotten" to buy a lot of games you have played for many, many hours of enjoyment.

You steal IP. OK. Don't try and justify it to me, or boast about it here online.

 

[Fulcrum29]

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Besides, I didnt mention anything about piracy in my post about the cash they made, just pointed it out.


Listen, I know all of us in the thread have been sucking on CDPR's knob because of TW3 but the amount of times piracy has saved me from **** games is justified.

Is this game currently worth R799? No.

If it was polished and bug free? Hell yeah.

When it gets 100% fixed in a few months would I buy it for R799? Yes!

By mid 2021 the game will probably be discounted by 40%, maybe 50% on GOG. By the time the paid DLC is announced the game will probably be R799 all-inclusive. The Witcher 3's expansion pass was $25, and the DLC separately was priced $20 respectively which made the pass the better purchase. When the pass released they dropped the game price to $50 ($75 incl. the pass) and when they went GOTY they dropped it to $40 all-inclusive.

Those who pirate the game now who may buy it later will wait until the game is released in one inclusive package. It should then be an R400 game in SA going by CDPR's current standard. For those with Argentinian or Russian accounts, it will be an R100-R200 game. I have an idea this will be the case when the game goes online with multiplayer. Add a discount and the game is given away in 'poorer' regions. The Witcher 3 is now on discount, priced $1.75 in Argentina.

No, I don't believe pirates who loot to buy will purchase the game until GOTY status, as said above. There aren't any measures CDPR can take in any case without alienating their market as they promoted themselves as anti-DRM. They can't call anyone a pirate because they denounced digital rights.

Yes, it will upset the early adopters which is the case with any product. Somebody has to be the lab rat.

Nonetheless, the game seems to be a commercial success. Now it is to be seen whether the production team will receive their promised royalties which was so publicly announced that it is weird in my opinion.

 

[ponder]

I am saying it now, the day the online component is introduced, CDPR is going to request to tie your game to a GOG account or the RED launcher. The only way establish a closed ecosystem should they monetise which they are going to do seeing how much GWENT is making them.

I would expect nothing less and support it, not that I'll ever sign up for it.

 

[Rickster]

BS. I have bought the game, knowing it has a lot of bugs. I will get the updates later.

I'm pretty sure you have "forgotten" to buy a lot of games you have played for many, many hours of enjoyment.

You steal IP. OK. Don't try and justify it to me, or boast about it here online.

Ive bought 95% of games that I pirated, exceptions being ones that dont run well with current tech (win10), games that Ive owned on PS3, ones that arnt available flat out and overpriced games. When i say over priced im talking about flight simulator 2020/forza, not paying R1900 for that.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Yes. But why are you helping it?

I am not helping anyone, but punting a cracked version when a clean GOG install is available is the informed decision and if crying over its size, get a repack, and it is not if all of FitGirl's repacks are clean either. I am not the one committed to piracy, neither the one with the broken moral compass. If you want a pure copy, purchase the game. Simple really.

Neither is CDPR bitching about piracy, all they want out is grey key market sellers.

 

[Soul Assassin]

I am not helping anyone, but punting a cracked version when a clean GOG install is available is the informed decision and if crying over its size, get a repack, and it is not if all of FitGirl's repacks are clean either. I am not the one committed to piracy, neither the one with the broken moral compass. If you want a pure copy, purchase the game. Simple really.

Neither is CDPR bitching about piracy, all they want out is grey key market sellers.

All that was cracked was the Steam DRM and right now it looks like the Steam version is going to be the more supported version piracy wise.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Ive bought 95% of games that I pirated, exceptions being ones that dont run well with current tech (win10), games that Ive owned on PS3, ones that arnt available flat out and overpriced games. When i say over priced im talking about flight simulator 2020/forza, not paying R1900 for that.

I own all the Assassin Creed games, not a single game from Black Flag up to Syndicate wants to launch on the latest version of Windows. Ubi is fully aware of it, but cannot provide a fix, however they want your system information report, Dxdiag reports amongst other things with no resolution on the horizon. BUT, a current 'altered' executable of these titles launch the games. Don't dare tell Ubi that a cracker can fix their game which they refuse to fix.

 

[Fulcrum29]

All that was cracked was the Steam DRM and right now it looks like the Steam version is going to be the more supported version piracy wise.

Which is a third-party DRM in any case for account association and SteamWorks integration.