Cyberpunk 2077

Ciferion

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I have changed my mind on the character.
Going to go for more of a Jensen Deus Ex style corpo assassin.

This game is beautiful, the city feels so alive.
The design, the atmosphere & sheer scope is amazing.

Sure there are a few bugs however coming from a dev background myself it's not all that uncommon.

On the topic of Piracy:

All the staff members involved in creating this masterpiece are just like you & me. They have lives, expenses & have also been working their literal butts off during the pandemic to made ends meet.

This is one example that we should most definitely support the developers thus ensuring we have future incredible games like this.

R799 is not all that much to be honest compared to some titles like BF5 over a grand. As a previous member posted if you cannot afford something save up for it.

In terms of bugs on release.

Take into consideration the pressure from the publishers who place high demands on the release schedule. A good documentary on this is the For Honor Playing Hard.

Playing Hard

It must be incredibly difficult to code for as many platforms as possible with varying specifications in order to maximize sales.
 
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Iwojima

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20 hours in and I've yet to experience anything game breaking or minor bugs that I would consider too jarring or repetitive that they would kill immersion.

Tweaked my graphic settings so that I've balanced prettiness and can still maintain a >60fps rate in about 95% of situations (lows rarely drop below 55 FPS)

There are a few tweaks and quality of life changes that certainly need to be made, but so far so good.
 
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Wanted to download 1.04 hotfix on GOG, tells me I dont have enough free space, had 30GB.
Clean up some stuff get to about 70GB and try again, patch is ony 500MB.
do they need to modify 50+gb space to apply the patch?
 

Iwojima

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Wanted to download 1.04 hotfix on GOG, tells me I dont have enough free space, had 30GB.
Clean up some stuff get to about 70GB and try again, patch is ony 500MB.
do they need to modify 50+gb space to apply the patch?
They dupe the entire install, patch the copy and replace your existing one.

Ridiculous for those of us with the game on an NVME drive where space is precious.
 

Herr der Verboten

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They dupe the entire install, patch the copy and replace your existing one.

Ridiculous for those of us with the game on an NVME drive where space is precious.
Add a bg3 installation to this and its kak. I've got both on manual update for reasons... I suppose I could try creating a symbolic directory link for !temp for both to another drive and see if that works.
 

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This thread has been derailed to hell and back. Can we just agree to disagree and move on? If publishers want to be greedy and charge R1900 for a game then that is their own damn fault and must not cry when people are pirating it.

How the hell can a high schooler honestly afford to pay for FS2020 and other new games?

Keep in mind forza horizon 4 hasn't droped a dime since releasing in September 2018. Justified?
If you can't afford the hobby

Get a different one

If a high schooler wants to collect high end model airplanes but can't afford them is it okay for him to just take the stuff, because he is a high schooler?

Come on, man. These excuses are bullcrap.

Personally I do not care what you do. There was a time I used to pirate myself,
but fecking own up to it.
You are stealing it.

If you can afford a PC to play Cyberpunk you can afford to buy it.

If you can't. The hobby is not for you.
 

Fulcrum29

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Odd how different the GOG and Steam repositories are from each other. Same down initial download size, different patching sizes, but then again maybe the compression is handled differently on the platforms.
 

Soul Assassin

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I saw a lot of posts from people with older and mid-low tier GPUs saying the patch gave a nice FPS boost, specifically I saw at least 5 comments from people with 1070s saying frames are higher and much more consistent now.
 

Herr der Verboten

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Add a bg3 installation to this and its kak. I've got both on manual update for reasons... I suppose I could try creating a symbolic directory link for !temp for both to another drive and see if that works.
lol, that just made everything slower. It's literally faster (on ssd) to just uninstall and reinstall for bg3 on each update with gog.
 

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Maybe the so called super duper over hyped game we were told about would have been received if not for the pirates
 

Elon

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Not really fussed with broke teens pirating games. Not exactly the same thing as taking physical property. Agreed that it’s shameful for adults.
 

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I'd rather see someone pirate the game and buy it later on when they can afford to do so rather than supporting those cheap grey market key sites that buy keys with stolen credit card details.
 

MeroD

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If you can't afford the hobby
Get a different one

If a high schooler wants to collect high end model airplanes but can't afford them is it okay for him to just take the stuff, because he is a high schooler?
Come on, man. These excuses are bullcrap.

Personally I do not care what you do. There was a time I used to pirate myself,
but fecking own up to it.
You are stealing it.

If you can afford a PC to play Cyberpunk you can afford to buy it.
If you can't. The hobby is not for you.
You should have gone for the head.
 

Fulcrum29

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I'd rather see someone pirate the game and buy it later on when they can afford to do so rather than supporting those cheap grey market key sites that buy keys with stolen credit card details.

I don't condone any illegal activity, but I do understand why piracy exists, and I am also well aware that many pirates never intend to acquire the article they stole. Likewise, with cheaters in online gaming communities, they will never admit that they are cheating. The world is adapting and is learning to coexist with these activities whilst systemically eroding accessibility to piracy and cheating. The problem is, however, is that piracy and cheating are sending the industry into a closed ecosystem where IP can be controlled and protected meaning that the consumer is becoming more dependent on third-party services to allow access to these ecosystems.

Like piracy and cheating, you also see this in bad and unethical practices. It is not like everyone else is a saint. Just the other day I saw a person complain about a certain practice, only to be a total hypocrite about it. Just the way the world works, and the more people there are… yeah.

Grey market sellers have a place in the market too, not everyone buys keys with stolen credit cards, and those keys were issued, to begin with, meaning that those keys were acquired by being issued (in circulation). The big problem with grey market sellers is the marketplaces where everyone can go to sell a key. Places like G2A and Kinguin simply places the onus on the sellers, but neglect to be accountable which essentially makes them the enablers. There is a reason in SA why some warranties are limited on hardware ;)

I am trying to live as clean as possible. The best way to handle pirates now is simply to try to covert them, and you can only do so by giving them the best experience as possible. CDPR said it themselves, but there will be a day when they go 180 on DRM because they need to monetise and understandably so.

Personally I have very little issue with DRM, the impact it has on resources have dramatically improved over the past 4 years, but I do strongly dislike the idea to be always online. I understand it when a game is online, duh, but there is no reason to authenticate an account which is already, cached, and logged in. A gripe I have with Steam.

People need to support CDPR, clearly the game wasn't market-ready, but they had to push to keep their investors happy and it is showing in their value that the investors aren't all too happy. Nonetheless, piracy reduce quality, as the proceeds made here are reinvested into growing the company, their subsidiaries, and into the next and upcoming production.
 
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