Is it not better just to get it locally? I checked Amazon and with the shipping and import fees, only a fraction cheaper than buying it local.
I got my wife's one in June local for R1593.00 including GPS.
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Is it not better just to get it locally? I checked Amazon and with the shipping and import fees, only a fraction cheaper than buying it local.
I got my wife's one in June local for R1593.00 including GPS.
Magandroid
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Where did you get it locally? I prefer to get locally first and had done some research before but couldn't find what i wanted.
justplain
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how long until premium cars come with this as standard? (accessible video recording)
I mean a number of premium brands already have front and rear facing camera's for parking etc.
And following that...how long until it becomes an insurance requirement?
I mean a number of premium brands already have front and rear facing camera's for parking etc.
And following that...how long until it becomes an insurance requirement?
I bought from (I am not affiliated with them):
https://www.cardashcam.co.za/product/viofo-a119s-1080p-60fps-car-dash-cam/
I see it's gone up by R195 since I bought, but still good price against importing I think. Just phone the guy first, I had to wait for stock to arrive even though the website said "in stock".
I've been saying this for years. Must be so easy to integrate it into the rear view mirror housing mounted to the windshield. Extract/download wanted clips onto USB stick via the infotainment system. Would be very nice.
neilronaldson
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my wife bought me one - it didnt record properly - all the files were broken.....i tried to get shop to advise - they couldnt help so just chucked it
make sure you can play back the recordings!!!!! Test it in the shop - and dont just test a 10 second recording - make it write different files - and make sure it can play back all of them - on a pc not on the device!! thats where mine didnt work
Lesson learnt with these things - or get a cradle for your phone - should work just the same
make sure you can play back the recordings!!!!! Test it in the shop - and dont just test a 10 second recording - make it write different files - and make sure it can play back all of them - on a pc not on the device!! thats where mine didnt work
Lesson learnt with these things - or get a cradle for your phone - should work just the same
FiestaST
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Why a dashboard camera could be your saving grace
Did you know that having a (functional) dash cam is one of your best risk management tools as a motorist? Installing a dashboard camera (dash cam) can prove exceedingly valuable for vehicle owners to minimise their risk of financial loss in the event of an accident.
This is according to Johannes du Plessis, a legal advisor at RBS (Risk Benefit Solutions Pty Ltd). He believes that not only could dash cam footage help vehicle owners avoid being held liable following an accident, but it can also assist individuals in recovering their damages if uninsured, or excess payments after an insurance claim.
“A great deal of motor vehicle accidents result in disputes over what actually happened and which party is liable for whose damages. We have seen time and again that witness testimonies are unreliable due to differences in perspective and viewpoints, changing testimony after persuasion, using incorrect synonyms in their testimonies, incorrect interpretation of facts, incorrect assumptions, and not being independent.”
He adds that it is likely that even the most responsible drivers may not be able to prove that they acted responsibly following an accident.
“These individuals may therefore have to incur the damages and expenses to their own vehicles and be held liable for tens of thousands of rand in damages to the other driver’s vehicle as well as the other driver’s expenses. Expenses, additional to the damages to both vehicles, include towing costs, storage costs and car hire which can also amount to a lot of money.”
Around 65% of drivers are uninsured according to estimates by the Automobile Association (AA) of South Africa. “The fact that another driver caused damages to your vehicle does not mean that the driver will definitely pay for your damages. Many existing uninsured drivers may not be able afford to pay for their own damages nor for the damages that they may cause to another vehicle,” du Plessis notes.
He explains that a collision at an intersection (four-way) statistically has the highest probability to lead to a liability dispute. “In as much as about 50% of collisions, both drivers allege that they stopped at the stop sign or that the traffic light was green for themselves and blame each other for the collision. In addition, as much as 40% of lane changes result in disputes. Damages to a vehicle for a minor collision may be as high as R38 000, while the damages for a major collision may be as high as the values of both vehicles involved in the collision.”
For these reasons, it is vital for drivers to have, at the very least, an own damage and third party liability policy for their vehicle. “Utilising dash cams to further help establish which party is really liable in an accident is an important risk management measure for drivers,” du Plessis adds. He also says that drivers in private vehicles are often under the impression that all commercial vehicles have dash cams, and that any such commercial vehicle involved in a collision with them must provide the footage to them. “In fact, only a small percentage of transport companies use dash cams, which means that the majority of such collisions may still result in disputes. It will therefore be advantageous for both private and commercial vehicle owners to install dash cams in their vehicles.”
Du Plessis explains that even fully-insured drivers can benefit from a dash cam. “In this case, installing a dash cam may not provide for premium reductions for insured drivers, but it can still help their insurers to recover their excess payments after an accident. Insurers often experience a lot of difficulty in recovering excess payments from the liable parties on behalf of their clients, because there is usually very little evidence to prove the liability of the other driver. Dash cams can provide the most accurate and objective account of an accident,” he concludes.
https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/indu...rd-camera-could-be-your-saving-grace-17173380
Did you know that having a (functional) dash cam is one of your best risk management tools as a motorist? Installing a dashboard camera (dash cam) can prove exceedingly valuable for vehicle owners to minimise their risk of financial loss in the event of an accident.
This is according to Johannes du Plessis, a legal advisor at RBS (Risk Benefit Solutions Pty Ltd). He believes that not only could dash cam footage help vehicle owners avoid being held liable following an accident, but it can also assist individuals in recovering their damages if uninsured, or excess payments after an insurance claim.
“A great deal of motor vehicle accidents result in disputes over what actually happened and which party is liable for whose damages. We have seen time and again that witness testimonies are unreliable due to differences in perspective and viewpoints, changing testimony after persuasion, using incorrect synonyms in their testimonies, incorrect interpretation of facts, incorrect assumptions, and not being independent.”
He adds that it is likely that even the most responsible drivers may not be able to prove that they acted responsibly following an accident.
“These individuals may therefore have to incur the damages and expenses to their own vehicles and be held liable for tens of thousands of rand in damages to the other driver’s vehicle as well as the other driver’s expenses. Expenses, additional to the damages to both vehicles, include towing costs, storage costs and car hire which can also amount to a lot of money.”
Around 65% of drivers are uninsured according to estimates by the Automobile Association (AA) of South Africa. “The fact that another driver caused damages to your vehicle does not mean that the driver will definitely pay for your damages. Many existing uninsured drivers may not be able afford to pay for their own damages nor for the damages that they may cause to another vehicle,” du Plessis notes.
He explains that a collision at an intersection (four-way) statistically has the highest probability to lead to a liability dispute. “In as much as about 50% of collisions, both drivers allege that they stopped at the stop sign or that the traffic light was green for themselves and blame each other for the collision. In addition, as much as 40% of lane changes result in disputes. Damages to a vehicle for a minor collision may be as high as R38 000, while the damages for a major collision may be as high as the values of both vehicles involved in the collision.”
For these reasons, it is vital for drivers to have, at the very least, an own damage and third party liability policy for their vehicle. “Utilising dash cams to further help establish which party is really liable in an accident is an important risk management measure for drivers,” du Plessis adds. He also says that drivers in private vehicles are often under the impression that all commercial vehicles have dash cams, and that any such commercial vehicle involved in a collision with them must provide the footage to them. “In fact, only a small percentage of transport companies use dash cams, which means that the majority of such collisions may still result in disputes. It will therefore be advantageous for both private and commercial vehicle owners to install dash cams in their vehicles.”
Du Plessis explains that even fully-insured drivers can benefit from a dash cam. “In this case, installing a dash cam may not provide for premium reductions for insured drivers, but it can still help their insurers to recover their excess payments after an accident. Insurers often experience a lot of difficulty in recovering excess payments from the liable parties on behalf of their clients, because there is usually very little evidence to prove the liability of the other driver. Dash cams can provide the most accurate and objective account of an accident,” he concludes.
https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/indu...rd-camera-could-be-your-saving-grace-17173380
FiestaST
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200 rond...sounds incredibly cheap:
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R400 full price for a dash cam is incredibly cheap. I'm willing to bet the footage will be unusable.
ArmatageShanks
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You can by a full feature phone for a grand that's got all the bells and whistles, I'm sure this cam will be fine, say for a few difficult situations ie sun glare and night time.
Hehe, okay.
Allow me to give an example of different dash cam "qualities".
The first image is of one of my dash cam's, retails for close to R2k. It's a 1080p, 60fps, 120 degree lens.
Then, the same scene/view using another widely sold dash cam, that retails for R1k locally, advertised as:
Lens: 170° Degree A+ grade HD 1080p high-resolution ultra wide angle
The difference in footage is chalk and cheese. Using the R1k camera, I pretty much guarantee you'd not be able to make out a number plate right in front of you, in broad daylight. The quality is shocking to say the least, definitely not a wider angle than the other camera, despite the claims. On a side note, the screen of the dash cam displayed what appeared to be a very clear/good image of what the camera was live viewing. It's all in the recorded footage though.
But, by all means, buy the R400.00 camera for R200.00. Enjoy.
Budza
Executive Member
Imagine that 2nd POS night quality 
RedViking
Nord of the South
Whats the name and model for your 2K cam?Hehe, okay.
Allow me to give an example of different dash cam "qualities".
The first image is of one of my dash cam's, retails for close to R2k. It's a 1080p, 60fps, 120 degree lens.
Then, the same scene/view using another widely sold dash cam, that retails for R1k locally, advertised as:
Lens: 170° Degree A+ grade HD 1080p high-resolution ultra wide angle
The difference in footage is chalk and cheese. Using the R1k camera, I pretty much guarantee you'd not be able to make out a number plate right in front of you, in broad daylight. The quality is shocking to say the least, definitely not a wider angle than the other camera, despite the claims. On a side note, the screen of the dash cam displayed what appeared to be a very clear/good image of what the camera was live viewing. It's all in the recorded footage though.
But, by all means, buy the R400.00 camera for R200.00. Enjoy.
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Any recommendations on a forward and rearward facing dashcam? I'm looking at the Eagle Eye but I just want to find out if there's any other dashcams that I can consider.
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I like the DDPai cameras. They are small and the picture quality is really good.
If you usually buy top end phones with good cameras they usually perform really really well (non-perma placed) and auto come with software to unload to eg Google Cloud (for free yay). So repurposing these phones when u get an upgrade is worth it.. only issue is phone cradles aren’t always the most stable and you likely have to buy or cut out some rubber washes for some of the joints to dampen it.
Additionally affords you to make your own cam software to autofocus and lookup plates, record incidents etc on the fly with some AI coding.. if you look at the pricier end of the dash cam they starting to do some basics all of which is possible on a phone already.
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and hows night performance?
I think Sygic.
1stly I use iOS/iPhone. I’ve browsed the AppStore trying out what I found and thus far I can’t really say I found anything decent. If your dash cam software merely does video and gps speed display +/- tracking path then it’s not much better than opening a video recorder.
I’ve seen one that does video looping & auto incident logging for when your speed abruptly declines.. but again, that’s basic.
Stuff I’d expect from a decent package: (can’t do most of this then what’s the point)
- GPS tracking
- Auto focus on vehicle, plates, auto light correction
- Loop recording also based on incident occurring
- Auto incident tagging and storage
- Auto incident identification (not just speed but also based on horn/hooter identification (unique-ish per car), lane drift)
- Video management with support for variety of cloud services (u can upload to google for free)
Other more advanced: (can be done, no one doing)
- follow distance alert
- license plate detect and read (this is so basic)
- hot car reporting & receiving list
- incident logging with plate details
- auto detect traffic violations like yellow/white lane drive, follow distance merge, painted island merges, barrier crossing,
- Bandwidth management for uploads
- Blackbox upload on critical incident / collision detect
Dream list: (won’t happen but I can wish)
- integration with waze being an overlay, auto identify stopped vehicles
Anyway busy trying to make my own app