Diablo III Paragon System

[w1z4rd]

I still cant bring myself to go through that content again. Its like running 3 very long dungeons... one after another. Over and over and over again.

 

[Crowley]

Gotta love blizzard, the day after I pre order guild wars 2, they announce this epic patch But i was always gonna play both though

I'm sure Blizzard was waiting with baited breath for you to order GW2 just to announce the patch. You should have pre-ordered GW2 a few months ago and made us all happy.

 

[AfricanTech]

I am very happy to have the had opportunity to play the extended 'beta' - hell, after waiting for 10 years I was happy to pay for the privilege

The patch shows good intent - D3 is a solid foundation upon which to build a great game

 

[Zen17h]

This patch is definitely bringing me back for at least a look, although the major reason I stopped playing was that I didn't want to risk finding any crappy legendaries before they get buffed
(Not that I found any really)

I also saw something about another buff you get for killing champions that gives you one BoE legendary after 500 stacks(you keep the stacks between games but once you hit 500 it resets)

The paragon system is actually a really nasty way to level - release a major update/expansion and everyone (probably) gets reset to their base level and have to 'start all over'

 

[Wikkels88]

The paragon system is actually a really nasty way to level - release a major update/expansion and everyone (probably) gets reset to their base level and have to 'start all over'

But I'd still have the paragon levels (which might or might not be reset in a years time) as opposed to just grinding for gear without XP reward

 

[Wikkels88]

But I doubt the paragon levels will ever be reset, the way I see it panning out is, in possible future expansions the base level cap will be increased (lets use 80 as an example) so another idea might be, that you keep your 100 paragon levels while leveling your base level from 60-80, once you hit 80 you have the chance to further increase your paragon level(lets say its now possible to reach paragon level 150), with certain item levels only able to drop if a certain magic find % is met. (Lets call them uber items, that are required for Uber levels that blizz will be bringing out with future expansions)

Or something like that, not saying this is how it will be, just pointing out that with paragon levels is paving the way for lots of future possiblities

 

[Brontosaurus]

The only thing that can save this abomination of a game is:

1. Remove the AH, both gold AND Real Money but give us a trading platform instead.
2. Improve drop rates
3. Skill system needs a complete overhaul. Bring back D2's skill tree system and let me bind keys to the skills
4. Redo the entire story
5. Assignable stat points
6. Remove botters (see point 1)

Considering none of the above will ever happen. This game will fade into existence and will be a definite scar on Blizzard's otherwise pretty face. The stats on xfire say a lot about the current state of the game and the forums are nothing more than a bash-fest (pretty much what I'm doing here).

All 1.0.4 will do is prolong the inevitable. It hasn't addressed any of the core issues of the game.

And before anyone says "haters gonna hate", I've been a huge fan of Blizzard since the release of W2, but D3 is a prime example of when a company becomes too big for its own good.

 

[Wikkels88]

The only thing that can save this abomination of a game is:

1. Remove the AH, both gold AND Real Money but give us a trading platform instead.
2. Improve drop rates
3. Skill system needs a complete overhaul. Bring back D2's skill tree system and let me bind keys to the skills
4. Redo the entire story
5. Assignable stat points
6. Remove botters (see point 1)

Considering none of the above will ever happen. This game will fade into existence and will be a definite scar on Blizzard's otherwise pretty face. The stats on xfire say a lot about the current state of the game and the forums are nothing more than a bash-fest (pretty much what I'm doing here).

All 1.0.4 will do is prolong the inevitable. It hasn't addressed any of the core issues of the game.

And before anyone says "haters gonna hate", I've been a huge fan of Blizzard since the release of W2, but D3 is a prime example of when a company becomes too big for its own good.

Here's a fun idea for you, go install D2, and go play that, from your list it seems like the exact game your describing. As for predicting the "fall of this doomed game" go have a look at the "farming anyone" thread, many have tried ALL have failed, what date to you predict this game to go poof??

 

[Wikkels88]

The only thing that can save this abomination of a game is:

1. Remove the AH, both gold AND Real Money but give us a trading platform instead.
2. Improve drop rates
3. Skill system needs a complete overhaul. Bring back D2's skill tree system and let me bind keys to the skills
4. Redo the entire story
5. Assignable stat points
6. Remove botters (see point 1)

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Just to show that I'm not being a douche with my previous reply and that i actually read your post I'll give my opinion on each of your points.

1.) No one force you to use the AH, its there for YOUR convience, even if they remove the AH, go google "buy diablo 3 items" and you'll see that even without the AH, the chinese farmers/botters will not be troubled, it will actually suit them, because then blizzard doesn't take their 15% cut. As for the "trading platform" there's already a trading chat section, I've bought many bargains this way.

2.) The paragon skill system will improve droprates, because with each level gained your MF % goes up (did you even read the OP)

3.) Oh gawd this is the one complaint i can't understand from people, so you want the old skill system back where if you made ONE mistake you basically blew 100's of hours of effort down the drain?? Everyone ended up with cookie cutter builds anyway (the word "hammerdin" bring back any memories) A lot more diversity with the new skill system. Could you IMaGINE the outcry if we had the old skill system back in patch 1.01 when all Demon hunter realized that there fav skill Nether tenticals has been nerfed and they had to REROLL?????

4.) People actually spend 100's of hours on this game for the story???

5.) Why, lets say you created a barb, the majority of your stat points would've gone into strength and vitality, now the game does it for you, you still have all the freedom of deciding what stat points to look for on your gear.

6.) I guess this is the only point I agree on, Blizz should do a better job at banning bots. But unless its your goal to me the number 1 diablo 3 player in the world, this shoudn't bother you too much.

 

[Pooky]

One thing I actually hate about Diablo 3 is the Auction Houses.
They really ruin the experience.

 

[Wikkels88]

One thing I actually hate about Diablo 3 is the Auction Houses.
They really ruin the experience.

Let me give you 2 examples.

Example 1: Lets say there was never any AH, you just simply relied on ingame drops.

Example 2: Lets say you chose not to use the AH at all, because you dont like it, and you only relied on ingame drops.

Explain how the first experience is different than the second? Jeeeeeeezus some guys just like to complain I suppose.:wtf:

 

[Ancalagon]

Let me give you 2 examples.

Example 1: Lets say there was never any AH, you just simply relied on ingame drops.

Example 2: Lets say you chose not to use the AH at all, because you dont like it, and you only relied on ingame drops.

Explain how the first experience is different than the second? Jeeeeeeezus some guys just like to complain I suppose.:wtf:

Because, thanks to the auction house, you cant just rely on item drops. They nerfed item drops to encourage people to use the auction house. So your chances of finding good kit are much, much slimmer.

Obviously it was bad enough that they had to overhaul the system in this patch, because people started leaving the game because they couldnt find good kit.

Oh, I know, I'll just mod the game to make good items less rare. But wait, you cant do that, again because Blizzard is worried about losing revenue from the AH. Whereas, in D2, modding was easy.

 

[Pooky]

Let me give you 2 examples.

Example 1: Lets say there was never any AH, you just simply relied on ingame drops.

Example 2: Lets say you chose not to use the AH at all, because you dont like it, and you only relied on ingame drops.

Explain how the first experience is different than the second? Jeeeeeeezus some guys just like to complain I suppose.:wtf:

Because other people will use it, and it's there and meant to be used, so obviously Blizzard will make the game around the bloody auction house.

 

[Archer]

Because, thanks to the auction house, you cant just rely on item drops.

Why dont you tell that to Phreeme who cleared Act 2 without the AH

My gear as well, the parts I struggle replacing are drops, AH gear has been replaced many a time. This nonsense about you cant only use drops to progress is poo

 

[Wikkels88]

Because, thanks to the auction house, you cant just rely on item drops. They nerfed item drops to encourage people to use the auction house. So your chances of finding good kit are much, much slimmer.
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I played a demon hunter all the way up to act 2 inferno only relying on ingame drops and trades with friends, never once used the auction house, only bought a few items this weekend to up my dps to speed my farm runs a bit, but point still stand I got all the way up to the hardest difficulty in the game without using the AH, and you claim the AH is necessary

 

[Ancalagon]

Why dont you tell that to Phreeme who cleared Act 2 without the AH

My gear as well, the parts I struggle replacing are drops, AH gear has been replaced many a time. This nonsense about you cant only use drops to progress is poo

I played a demon hunter all the way up to act 2 inferno only relying on ingame drops and trades with friends, never once used the auction house, only bought a few items this weekend to up my dps to speed my farm runs a bit, but point still stand I got all the way up to the hardest difficulty in the game without using the AH, and you claim the AH is necessary

Clearly all of the 1 million other players who are moaning about the drop rate are wrong and you guys are right. Hey, why dont you shoot Blizzard an email, tell them not to change the drop rate or add magic find to paragon levels, clearly its pointless because you guys can find the items you need.

Come on, there is a reason everybody is bitching about the game, no matter your personal experiences, and there is a reason Blizzard is overhauling the entire game so soon after its release. Clearly the player base was dropping at an alarming rate, and so was their income from the AH.

 

[Wikkels88]

Because other people will use it, and it's there and meant to be used, so obviously Blizzard will make the game around the bloody auction house.

Then thats your problem right there, you should get some professional help with this obsession of yours that make you want to mimic others instead of deciding for yourself what wil give you the best experience...

Just kidding

 

[unskinnybob]

I played a demon hunter all the way up to act 2 inferno only relying on ingame drops and trades with friends, never once used the auction house, only bought a few items this weekend to up my dps to speed my farm runs a bit, but point still stand I got all the way up to the hardest difficulty in the game without using the AH, and you claim the AH is necessary

I don't have enough Diablo friends or I have terrible drop luck. None of my kit was dropped. I probably used an offhand mojo drop Act1 inferno but had to replace it for Act2.

Blizzard hate me.

 

[Wikkels88]

Clearly all of the 1 million other players who are moaning about the drop rate are wrong and you guys are right. Hey, why dont you shoot Blizzard an email, tell them not to change the drop rate or add magic find to paragon levels, clearly its pointless because you guys can find the items you need.

Come on, there is a reason everybody is bitching about the game, no matter your personal experiences, and there is a reason Blizzard is overhauling the entire game so soon after its release. Clearly the player base was dropping at an alarming rate, and so was their income from the AH.

Haha do yourself a favor, go onto the official forums and have a look at some of the complainers profiles, you'll notice a trend, its mostly people that want to enter inferno and faceroll everything from the start, they want all the epic gear without investing some time... And don't get me wrong, without the AH the game is more difficult, but its still doable, you just made it sound like its impossible to progress without the AH Hopefully the new patch can help to quite some of the millions of complainers for a while

 

[Ancalagon]

Haha do yourself a favor, go onto the official forums and have a look at some of the complainers profiles, you'll notice a trend, its mostly people that want to enter inferno and faceroll everything from the start, they want all the epic gear without investing some time... And don't get me wrong, without the AH the game is more difficult, but its still doable, you just made it sound like its impossible to progress without the AH Hopefully the new patch can help to quite some of the millions of complainers for a while

Oh come on, thats a load of crap. And you know it, and Blizzard knows it, and that is why they are patching it.