Difference between Intel chipsets

[SanchoP]

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[.Froot.]

Take a look at www.sybaritic.co.za and open the motherboard links with these specs.
otherwise:

p31: 667/800RAM, up to 1066 core2quad, up to 1333core2duo
p33: ?
p35: same as p31 but it all depends on the manufacturer of the board.

 

[Captain Beer]

phase1: collect underpants.
phase2: ?
phase3: profit!

 

[.Froot.]

phase1: collect underpants.
phase2: ?
phase3: profit!

wtf??

 

[sn3rd]

wtf??

South Park underpants gnomes... but completely unrelated

 

[Glordit]

On paper there is probably a difference.
In real world performance there is probably none.

 

[cyberarmy]

The chip with better OC capabilities has been marked as P35, OC not good ones P31.

 

[Re83L]

I think you'll gain almost nothing...

The DDR800 might help a TINY bit in loading times, other than that, I don't think you'll notice the difference.

PS - I think the P35 supports the 45nm Quads (Q9xxx) whilst the P31 only supports 65nm quads (Q6xxx)

 

[.Froot.]

I think you'll gain almost nothing...

The DDR800 might help a TINY bit in loading times, other than that, I don't think you'll notice the difference.

PS - I think the P35 supports the 45nm Quads (Q9xxx) whilst the P31 only supports 65nm quads (Q6xxx)

Which is similar to what I said. The P35 does 'em all whilst the P31 only supports the 1066FSB Quad Cores.

 

[.Froot.]

Ok, so if I want 45nm support, which I do, I'll have to look in the direction of the P35...

I won't buy anything other than the P35.

 

[The_Techie]

The P35 is a great chipset

I'm still quite partial to the nForce chipsets, though

 

[.Froot.]

If I recall correctly you can't overclock the Intel motherboards at all....
Just buy the most expensive one you can afford. However, I would rather go for an Asus motherboard. For the same price (around R1300) you can get the same chip and get more features on the board, including full 1333FSB support for 45nm processor chips.

 

[Glordit]

Surely the P35 based Intel boards also have full 1333fsb 45nm support?

So the hunt begins. Why then do Intel have expensive boards if you can't OC on them? That's generally the main reason for a more expensive board is it not?

99.99% of everyone here will agree with me that Intel boards are pretty useless unless you want a workstasion PC
as for why does intel cost more? - Probably because Mobo's are not thier main source of Income and CPU's are?

Rather hunt around for a MSI/Asus/Gigabyte/Asrock/Chaintech... for about the same price or even less you can get a good mobo.

As for 45Nm support, once the 45Nm intel CPU's were released I think most manufactures revised thier boards with 45Nm suppport. I got a MSI G31M2 for R900 and it came with 1333FSB Support w/ 45Nm Support
it even supports from Wolfdale E8500 all they way to Yorkfield QX9650

 

[.Froot.]

I agree about the Intel mb thing. I looked around this morning and found some nice G35/P35 Gigabyte boards. Alternatively there are also mean Asus P35/G35 boards too. Really a lot better than the Intel boards.

 

[Asha'man X]

I don't know why everyone keeps knocking Intel boards that badly.

They are made by Foxconn, and generally are reliable like crazy. Even through they don't overclock, they are perfect for a school/office environment or a person who is looking for a stock standard pc.

Anyway, the new systems are so fast that you barely need overclocking, unless you are into gaming. An E4500, 2 Gigs of Ram, big hard drive, P35 or G33 Motherboard, and you are sorted for a decent light use machine.

 

[.Froot.]

I don't know why everyone keeps knocking Intel boards that badly.

They are made by Foxconn, and generally are reliable like crazy. Even through they don't overclock, they are perfect for a school/office environment or a person who is looking for a stock standard pc.

Anyway, the new systems are so fast that you barely need overclocking, unless you are into gaming. An E4500, 2 Gigs of Ram, big hard drive, P35 or G33 Motherboard, and you are sorted for a decent light use machine.

If you want a light use machine, the E4500 is actually too fast.... and then also the P35 is overkill and the G33 (which is below the P35) is still almost too much.
I have actually often managed to almost stall a Quad Core Q9650- some processes or encoding processes slow even those if you try hard enough. Overclocking is something I don't do or endorse (yeah sure it's become "safer", but still has a negative on the lifespan of components), but sometimes it really is nice to have ie a 3.5GHz Quad core...

 

[SanchoP]

as for why does intel cost more? - Probably because Mobo's are not thier main source of Income and CPU's are?

I actually meant to say why do Intel make high-end enthusiast boards, if these are generally only for those who want to oc...

 

[.Froot.]

as for why does intel cost more? - Probably because Mobo's are not thier main source of Income and CPU's are?

If you are referring to why an Intel CPU costs more than an AMD CPU, it is so for the same reason that a Ferarri costs more than a Tata.
1. It is a hell of a lot faster
2. It runs a hell of a lot cooler
3. It is way better
and other reasons too....

 

[Glordit]

Looking at getting a 965 based board second hand at SystemShock. What are the chances of it supporting 45nm CPUs?

I think the 965's are old?

G & P series, all support 45Nm Core 2/Quad cores with a bios update, atleast the most recent ones that came out after or just before the new intel 45Nm CPU's.

 

[.Froot.]

Yeah, the 965s are pretty old. The only new CPUs that the P/G-33 does not support are the 1333FSB Quad Cores. (They support all Core2Duos and all 1066FSB Quad Cores)