I can believe the government insisting on GPS to be included in
their set top digital TV receivers. So that the TV viewer
can make sure he is where he is. Thank you SA government!
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I can believe the government insisting on GPS to be included in
their set top digital TV receivers. So that the TV viewer
can make sure he is where he is. Thank you SA government!
ToxicBunny
Oi! Leave me out of this...
If those are the required specs for the device, there is not a chance in hell it will be R700 let alone R4000....
avr-rulez
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1. Yes Mnet is analog picture 8bit digital audio - thats why it has crap sound btw.
In a previous statement by Mnet themselves , they state that they have been not selling Mnet analog for over a year waiting for DTT to arrive.
2. Does Ivy's cherrie include Quality progs , the likes of HBO etc??
3. Stick to Open platform...oops should not say that here....
In a previous statement by Mnet themselves , they state that they have been not selling Mnet analog for over a year waiting for DTT to arrive.
2. Does Ivy's cherrie include Quality progs , the likes of HBO etc??
3. Stick to Open platform...oops should not say that here....
It's all just talk by her cluelessness ivyness who doesn't even know how a phone works. "you poosh da numba's and it waks".
If you really believe all the twaddle about the gps before you switch it on in another country just line the inside of the box or cabinet you want to put it in with tinfoil - make sure you don't remove it while it's on.
And when it's built into a TV, you pay 20 grand for digital tv only to find it's dissabled outside the country - hardly legal. Infact if you pay the full un-subsidised price for the STB - it's yours - what right do they have to render it useless in another location?
I think it's going to be a simple digital to analog device they could probably produce in china for 50 bucks.
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Ellies "braai grid" type uhf antenna if less than 4 years old will work. (they prepared long ago for digital.) obviously the cable remains the same. It just has to be direct - no boosters etc inbetween arial and tv/stb.
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ToxicBunny
Oi! Leave me out of this...
I like my setup considerably more...
1 x DSTV dish, into DSTV decoder... all channels on one piece of kit.
I am actually looking forward to the day that analog tv disappears and maybe they get their act together and I don't need to pay a useless tv license for my analog tv since i WON'T ever be getting their cruddy digital stb.
1 x DSTV dish, into DSTV decoder... all channels on one piece of kit.
I am actually looking forward to the day that analog tv disappears and maybe they get their act together and I don't need to pay a useless tv license for my analog tv since i WON'T ever be getting their cruddy digital stb.
somnambulist
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Ivy's got her reasons 
The burning questions, why gps , encryption, smart card & wimax included ? Well the government is subsidising this project with our taxes ! So if lets say any other government decides to order dtt decoders from one of these manufacturers, & they decide to sell them government subsidised (read : our taxes) ones they wont work. It will also stop cross border from receiving our fta broadcasts. Mnet/csn aren't catered for on Ivy's dtt plans as there planned stb only has one smart card slot, they might join in later its still early days.
The burning questions, why gps , encryption, smart card & wimax included ? Well the government is subsidising this project with our taxes ! So if lets say any other government decides to order dtt decoders from one of these manufacturers, & they decide to sell them government subsidised (read : our taxes) ones they wont work. It will also stop cross border from receiving our fta broadcasts. Mnet/csn aren't catered for on Ivy's dtt plans as there planned stb only has one smart card slot, they might join in later its still early days.
ToxicBunny
Oi! Leave me out of this...
somnambulist : you do understand how much it will cost to build a system with GPS and wimax built in?.. R700 isn't even close to the figure that it will cost..
And honestly, who cares about cross border people receiving our FTA broadcasts? We're willing to spend lots of money stopping people receiving them, when it has NO economic benefit to us to do so?
And as for the government subsidy... the manufacturers won't be subsidised per se, the end user will be subsidised a portion of the purchase cost.
And honestly, who cares about cross border people receiving our FTA broadcasts? We're willing to spend lots of money stopping people receiving them, when it has NO economic benefit to us to do so?
And as for the government subsidy... the manufacturers won't be subsidised per se, the end user will be subsidised a portion of the purchase cost.
Turiko
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HavocXphere
Honorary Master
This must be the new euphemism for gravy train...
This all sounds a bit dubious to me.
Wtf is wrong with using DSTV decoders?
->Half the country already has them
->They cost 1/2 as much as these STBs...probably less with economies of scale
->They already allow for interactive stuff
->We've got loads of techs who know how they work
->It supports multiple bouquets
->Its already been digital for like 9 years
->Its satellite based so its available everywhere
ldmelsa
Executive Member
Your DSTV box has nothing to do with terrestrial broadcasts.
DSTV has about 1.5 million subscribers in SA.
That's about ### (EDIT LOL)
I think.
EDIT: 12.6mil household
1.5mil dstv
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ldmelsa
Executive Member
I;m an idiot.
That's per household
LOL
That's per household
LOL
Your DSTV box has nothing to do with terrestrial broadcasts.
DSTV has about 1.5 million subscribers in SA.
That's about 3.2%
I think.
Yeah, DSTV has about 1.5million subscribers. But another 3 to 4 million people who just "have" decoders. and satellite dishes on their roof, when they don't even have electricity..
You cannot forget about them
HavocXphere
Honorary Master
Yeah...I was exaggerating (heavily).
But:
SA Population: ~50 mil
TVs per 1000 people: 135 (might be old info. Source)
So that means there are ~ 6.75 million TV sets in SA. You're saying there are 1.5 mil DSTV subscribers....So 22% of TVs are connected to DSTV. (Rough calc, I know)
Not exactly half...but still a lot. Especially if you compare it to the number of TVs connected to STB atm: 0%.
The way i understand it Toxic, the farmers near our boarders are mostly so out of range of a terrestrial tv signal already they have to use satelite - so chances of getting a signal further away is even more unlikely -pointless exersize indeed.
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hahahahahahahaha
Toxic bunny the manufacturing process is subsidised (no duties on imported components etc) ... lower income groups will be given discount vouchers ... as for the compact & comcrypt mnet decoders are plainly analogue
Toxic bunny the manufacturing process is subsidised (no duties on imported components etc) ... lower income groups will be given discount vouchers ... as for the compact & comcrypt mnet decoders are plainly analogue
digital TV migration innovation cluster
Hi
Interesting thoughts on this forum, some profound, and some not so profound!!!
I am creating a cluster of techies to provide design and development skills to enable local manufacture of digital set top boxes in KZN.
If anyone here knows of techies, old, young, black, white, doesnt matter, male, female, who cares!!!
looking for people who want to make a real contribution
with electronics design skills, SMT skills, AV circuit design, conditional access
etc
I need people who are looking to be employed, full time or part time.
Or people who want to contribute to this project in their spare time.
Digital migration means different things to different people.
But the reality is that it is here.
We can decide if it will make a difference to our lives in a positive way.
The digital migration of TV has the opportunity to create over 20 000 jobs in KZN alone
this will affect the lives of over 200 000 people
and 200 000 people with food, and shelter, and an income means less poverty, less crime, and more people being influenced by positive role models within their societies
Hi
Interesting thoughts on this forum, some profound, and some not so profound!!!
I am creating a cluster of techies to provide design and development skills to enable local manufacture of digital set top boxes in KZN.
If anyone here knows of techies, old, young, black, white, doesnt matter, male, female, who cares!!!
looking for people who want to make a real contribution
with electronics design skills, SMT skills, AV circuit design, conditional access
etc
I need people who are looking to be employed, full time or part time.
Or people who want to contribute to this project in their spare time.
Digital migration means different things to different people.
But the reality is that it is here.
We can decide if it will make a difference to our lives in a positive way.
The digital migration of TV has the opportunity to create over 20 000 jobs in KZN alone
this will affect the lives of over 200 000 people
and 200 000 people with food, and shelter, and an income means less poverty, less crime, and more people being influenced by positive role models within their societies
AirWolf
Honorary Master
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.This is all just smart talk by someone who knows nothing.
All this smart technology and esp going the encryption CAM (smartcard) route brings it’s own problems – activation, error codes, card marriages etc problems – fine for a dedicated pay channel with only a few million subscribers paying 500/month – but a logistical nightmare if on a National scale, never to have been even contemplated anywhere else in the world.
1)Who is going to finance this phenomenal call center of a few 100 000 people? Certainly not Etv or any other FTA channels who don’t even want encryption (free to air dah!). SABC? Ha ha what will our licenses be then I wonder.
2)This is not what Sentech have been planning or testing for the last 6+ years – never be ready by 1 November for sure.
3)Are all the digital TV’s now going to match this propriatery spec – how much are these sets going to cost us? No way!
I'm going to love to see how pissed these people get when these things pack up a few months out of warranty at 700 bucks a pop!
I personally don’t believe any of it. It’s all utterly confusing, contradictory BS. But we’ll just have to wait and see.
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All this smart technology and esp going the encryption CAM (smartcard) route brings it’s own problems – activation, error codes, card marriages etc problems – fine for a dedicated pay channel with only a few million subscribers paying 500/month – but a logistical nightmare if on a National scale, never to have been even contemplated anywhere else in the world.
1)Who is going to finance this phenomenal call center of a few 100 000 people? Certainly not Etv or any other FTA channels who don’t even want encryption (free to air dah!). SABC? Ha ha what will our licenses be then I wonder.
2)This is not what Sentech have been planning or testing for the last 6+ years – never be ready by 1 November for sure.
3)Are all the digital TV’s now going to match this propriatery spec – how much are these sets going to cost us? No way!
I'm going to love to see how pissed these people get when these things pack up a few months out of warranty at 700 bucks a pop!
I personally don’t believe any of it. It’s all utterly confusing, contradictory BS. But we’ll just have to wait and see.
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