Do you believe access to the internet is a basic human right?

Do you believe access to the internet is a basic human right?

  • Yes

    Votes: 153 49.4%

  • No

    Votes: 157 50.6%
  • Total voters
    310
Benedict A55h0le said:
There is only 1 human right and that is the right to die.
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Wow.

No right to life?

No right to freedom of movement?

No freedom to associate/disassociate?

No right to property?

I'm very glad you don't hold any significant power. I can't imagine the dystopian hellscape you'd create.

BTW get over here and give me R1 million. After all you have no right to refuse.
 
Arthur said:
Wow, so you don't regard your wages and salary as your property? What are they - collective property? You sound awfully commie.
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Ahh right so I should keep all my money, not pay any taxes, because its ALL MINE

Right?

Why do you wish to deprive those less fortunate of a mere 10GB of data?

Why are you so selfish

Sies man.
 
ArmatageShanks said:
Ahh right so I should keep all my money, not pay any taxes, because its ALL MINE

Right?

Why do you wish to deprive those less fortunate of a mere 10GB of data?

Why are you so selfish

Sies man.
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A true commie you are.

As an aside, there's a foundational difference between others assisting me through charity, gift and donation on the one hand, and me claiming a right and title to the fruits of others' labour on the other hand. Just about all human economic interaction hangs on recognising and respecting this difference.
 
Arthur said:
A true commie you are.

As an aside, there's a foundational difference between others assisting me through charity, gift and donation on the one hand, and me claiming a right and title to the fruits of others' labour on the other hand. Just about all human economic interaction hangs on recognising and respecting this difference.
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Sies man

Shame on you.
 
porchrat said:
Wow.

No right to life?

No right to freedom of movement?

No freedom to associate/disassociate?

No right to property?

I'm very glad you don't hold any significant power. I can't imagine the dystopian hellscape you'd create.

BTW get over here and give me R1 million. After all you have no right to refuse.
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And you would do a better job?
 
The_Ogre said:
No, its not. You do not need data in order to survive.
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Nor do you need municipal water, or healthcare, or shelter, or quite frankly any of the human rights.

You can technically fend for yourself.

But survival is not what human rights are based on, nor is this topic.
 
Food yes, clean water yes, shelter yes. Healthcare? Hmm, what's the point of giving somebody free access to water, food and shelter, but then not looking after them when they get sick and can't pay? Internet though? No, not yet.
 
porchrat said:
Wow.

No right to life?

No right to freedom of movement?

No freedom to associate/disassociate?

No right to property?

I'm very glad you don't hold any significant power. I can't imagine the dystopian hellscape you'd create.

BTW get over here and give me R1 million. After all you have no right to refuse.
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Those are not human rights. Right to life is not a right. The rest are not rights but just things people want and most never get. Go tell the people of Gherbarghdftbah that water is a human right. Its not. Its meaningless.
 
ArmatageShanks said:
Sies man

Shame on you.
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The shame is on you, because in your world there is no such thing as kindness, charity, and helping others by sharing what is yours. You evidently think they have a right to what is yours. Worse, you don't believe that what is your property is really yours, nor what belongs to others is really theirs. You destroy the very foundation of the social order.

When I assist others with money, goods or services from my own pocket I do so out of kindness and charity, not because I believe they have a right to what is mine. In other words, I am fulfilling a mandate to be generous and charitable, not because I think they have a right to what it mine.
 
Benedict A55h0le said:
Those are not human rights. Right to life is not a right. The rest are not rights but just things people want and most never get. Go tell the people of Gherbarghdftbah that water is a human right. Its not. Its meaningless.
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Oh yes they are. They're in our Bill of Rights my dude. Go and read it.

We don't extend things like the right to life to toasters or cows. It's an exclusively human thing. These are human rights.

In fact I'd argue the right to life is the single most important right any human being can have and all other rights flow from that one.
 
Arthur said:
The shame is on you, because in your world there is no such thing as kindness, charity, and helping others by sharing what is yours. You evidently think they have a right to what is yours. Worse, you don't believe that what is your property is really yours, nor what belongs to others is really theirs. You destroy the very foundation of the social order.

When I assist others with money, goods or services from my own pocket I do so out of kindness and charity, not because I believe they have a right to what is mine. In other words, I am fulfilling a mandate to be generous and charitable, not because I think they have a right to what it mine.
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Please explain further

Not sure I entirely understand
 
porchrat said:
Oh yes they are. They're in our Bill of Rights my dude. Go and read it.

We don't extend things like the right to life to toasters or cows. It's an exclusively human thing. These are human rights.

In fact I'd argue the right to life is the single most important right any human being can have and all other rights flow from that one.
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Yes we humans like to dream up things that we think is rightfully ours, but humans are dumb, especially group decisions.
 
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