Do you believe aliens exist?

[wizardofid]

while I do agree with the fact that our little universe and all we can see is microscopic in size, I do believe there is more to the story constantly, how do we know we aren't in some simulation run by some super advanced civilization, to see how we develop.

kind of like an ant farm, or a planet sized zoo almost, where the Aliens have such advanced technology they practically observing us constantly and guiding our development all through the centuries for civilization.

I know it sounds far fetched, but I struggle to believe that everything we see around us is known and explainable by physics and known science.

there is a lot we don't know, and cannot explain, and even today with all the technology around us, things still go missing that cannot be easily explained.

is it Aliens? possibly, are they on earth? possible, is there life, how do we know the truth hasn't been suppressed?

actually watching this video and one can begin to connect the dots of the truth.

How do we know we aren't branch or a bubble pinched off from another universe or there aren't several other bubble like universes out there. There is probably more that 4 dimensions but we will never know, we don't what lies beyond the cosmic light barrier.
We are making new discoveries every day.

Do aliens exist ? Probably. Have they been to earth ? Probably not. Are we in a simulation ? is there evidence that we aren't ?

Observation is the starting point, but not usually evidence alone for something to be true.

For example we observed light speed, calculated the speed, created mathematical theory E=mc2 and the theory was tested and proven to be correct with a high degree of accuracy, that it is indeed a proven fact. Nothing in the universe can move faster than light. There nothing from stopping you from bending the rules around the proven theory, there is many mathematical theories that allow for bending light speed travel, but they will only ever remain theory until tested otherwise.

aliens or intelligent life forms is theory nothing more. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise, there is 4 billion people on this planet, not a single one has managed to present physical evidence without using the excuse of government intervention.

What does the governments gain from keeping information classified, it is a crackpot theory that EVERY single government is playing mum on it. It is a daft idea that this is somehow humanity's best kept secret, no evidence ever leaks, and yet several 100 classified government documents and projects have leaked with evidence in modern times. But not aliens that has never leaked, nor that EVERY government in the world is in on the conspiracy.

That is fcking stupid, similar to bigfoot, lochness monster, yeti and several other mythical beasts and creatures.

Funny how everyone believed witches were real, or vampires or dragons. But there isn't a single shred of evidence to suggest otherwise or is it another lame excuse by the governments of the world to cover it up or proven false. Has witches suddenly gone into hiding.

To the point it is fun to dive into fringe sciences, but you should take it with a bucket of salt and see it for what it is a work of fiction.

Why are aliens only ever spotted in the sky, you never see them land and exit a craft, and it is always in specific rural locations, always taken with the worse possible camera, shaky as well and also some distance away.Why would aliens travel millions of lights years fly around in the sky and then fck off back from where ever they came from.

Why is it always crafts with bright blinding lights, why are all crafts the same shape and design, Why is it saucer like in appearance, you are traveling in the vacuum of space, there is no air resistance or friction in space. It is empty a rocket ship and a flying brick isn't going to make an ounce of difference to speed when in the vacuum of space.

It is all too fcking coincidental. If you logically apply your self to the absurdity, the only logical explanation you have you want some of the good weed they are having.

This doesn't apply to just aliens, every unexplained phenomena really, has no place for logical.

 

[Jings]

We are judging these phenomena with 21st century technology and current science

In the not too distant future

"Telepathic" or non-verbal human communication will be commonplace
You will be able to control machines with human thought
Transportation will not require physical motors or a propulsion system
Quantum physics will render all current natural laws obsolete
The limitation of space-time will no longer be relevant

And of course "life" on another planet might not be carbon-based or humanoid

Carbon is the fourth most abundant element in the universe, after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. Very likely most life in the universe is carbon based.

 

[Moosedrool]

Carbon is the fourth most abundant element in the universe, after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. Very likely most life in the universe is carbon based.

The conditions required for carbon-based life is a very narrow window on a relatively hot planet compared to most of the universe. You could argue silicone is probable at colder or much hotter temperatures and pressures where it's more stable. Liquid nitrogen or methane could be its living conditions.

 

[wizardofid]

lol - why dont you form an opinion after the fact. You are embarrassing yourself. Video evidence doesn't lie.
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Yeah don't embarrass your self. What video evidence. ? FCK me. Bunch of UFO's is not evidence of advance civilizations nor aliens, it is evidence of UFO's (unidentified flying objects) it is just that, it is right there in the name, not unidentified alien object.

Video evidence or photographic evidence has never been considered truth on its own, whether scientific or otherwise. There is no proof to shown it wasn't altered in any way or form

 

[wingnut771]

Yeah don't embarrass your self. What video evidence. ? FCK me. Bunch of UFO's is not evidence of advance civilizations nor aliens, it is evidence of UFO's (unidentified flying objects) it is just that, it is right there in the name, not unidentified alien object.

Video evidence or photographic evidence has never been considered truth on its own, whether scientific or otherwise. There is no proof to shown it wasn't altered in any way or form

In the doccie. Not just ufos.

 

[wizardofid]

Carbon is the fourth most abundant element in the universe, after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. Very likely most life in the universe is carbon based.

The great Carl Sagan cautioned against the assumption that all life forms must be carbon based. Predominantly carbon sure but all life not likely....

 

[Jings]

The conditions required for carbon-based life is a very narrow window on a relatively hot planet compared to most of the universe. You could argue silicone is probable at colder or much hotter temperatures and pressures where it's more stable. Liquid nitrogen or methane could be its living conditions.

Most of the witnesses and/or researches have reported on carbon and plasma based life forms. Even though silicon lifeforms are probable there haven't been reports of encounters with them. Not that they don't exist though.

 

[Jings]

US vice president has a different take on aliens.

 

[TrueSeeker]

while I do agree with the fact that our little universe and all we can see is microscopic in size, I do believe there is more to the story constantly, how do we know we aren't in some simulation run by some super advanced civilization, to see how we develop.

kind of like an ant farm, or a planet sized zoo almost, where the Aliens have such advanced technology they practically observing us constantly and guiding our development all through the centuries for civilization.

I know it sounds far fetched, but I struggle to believe that everything we see around us is known and explainable by physics and known science.

there is a lot we don't know, and cannot explain, and even today with all the technology around us, things still go missing that cannot be easily explained.

is it Aliens? possibly, are they on earth? possible, is there life, how do we know the truth hasn't been suppressed?

actually watching this video and one can begin to connect the dots of the truth.

I'm more inclined to think most credible UFO (not necessarily alien - U - for public purposes) are secret military tech slips.

The thing is that if you look at the scientific development during the late 1800s to mid 1900s - During that time it was clear that human minds are capable of some amazing scientific investigation and theoretical advancement. Yet... After atomic weapons, things just quieted down on some of the most interesting fronts. Despite there being more people around. Despite ever more widespread access to knowledge (unclassified at least). Despite ever greater educational infrastructure. Higher general levels of education. Heck... Less lead in the gasoline.

And I don't buy it.

What I can buy however, is that with atomic weapons the leading edge of science and technology, other than IT and media really (for the most part distracting entertainment technologies), entered an era where its just too damned dangerous, let alone for civilians to handle, or even be aware of.

Take a craft that can travel at the speeds often witnessed. Consider the mastery of physics needed to even prevent sonic booms or burning up due to friction. Or even maintain structural integrity at ludicrous Gs. The fact is - Anything that can move like that, if used as a ballistic weapon - Would be city killers, or worse. Once mastery of such speeds is a given, it only becomes a question of mass before you have a planet destroyer. The likes of a natural meteorite hitting the earth at say... 50km/s. Making atom bombs look like toys. And, making those, with publicly available information is not that big a deal these days. There are a number of advanced non-nuclear capable countries in the world, which are educated and capable enough to need but an estimated handful of weeks to make working nuclear weapons - If so inclined and having access to the raw mineral resources needed.

What if it's just too dangerous to include the science of such things in public education? Or even public knowledge thereof? There's always crazies out there. Hell... There are always nihilist, suicidal crazies out there. And even at times ones who are incredibly intelligent and capable.

So yeah - I think most of this kind of thing is because the cutting edge of science and technology reached apocalyptic energy regimes. Around about the 1940s.

The part I don't get, if that is the case, is how there cannot be a major human presence in the solar system already. On the other hand... I wouldn't be surprised if there actually is. And, what is publicly shown is just entertainment. NASA, SpaceX, all of it. And that much of the scientific establishment is where dangerous physics is concerned is a highly controlled sphere of knowledge. Carefully curated.

 

[Brian_G]

Why are aliens only ever spotted in the sky, you never see them land and exit a craft, and it is always in specific rural locations, always taken with the worse possible camera, shaky as well and also some distance away.Why would aliens travel millions of lights years fly around in the sky and then fck off back from where ever they came from.

Why is it always crafts with bright blinding lights, why are all crafts the same shape and design, Why is it saucer like in appearance, you are traveling in the vacuum of space, there is no air resistance or friction in space. It is empty a rocket ship and a flying brick isn't going to make an ounce of difference to speed when in the vacuum of space.

So many questions yet you won't consider looking at those videos that suggest there's answers. Would it surprise you to learn that there are at least logical theories which can explain much of that? A few amazing facts too if you look deep enough.

But fair enough if you prefer to follow your own logic avenue.

 

[Brian_G]

US vice president has a different take on aliens.

My personal belief has ended up that most visitors are inter-dimensional travelers, not space travelers. Perhaps that partially explains why so much of the physics involved seems to bend the rules we normally observe.

Also makes sense that religious folk may interpret these visits as being more spiritual. As you and I go, quite possible anyway.

 

[gotaway]

Not even close :-/

Crazy 10, Hot 0

 

[TrueSeeker]

My personal belief has ended up that most visitors are inter-dimensional travelers, not space travelers. Perhaps that partially explains why so much of the physics involved seems to bend the rules we normally observe.

Also makes sense that religious folk may interpret these visits as being more spiritual. As you and I go, quite possible anyway.

i.e. Cargo Cults

 

[Brian_G]

i.e. Cargo Cults

Sure, could be involved as well

 

[gotaway]

Before we can consider extra-terrestrial sentient beings, we must first acknowledge previous advanced human(oid?) civilisations on earth.

We being us, humans. Collectively

 

[Brian_G]

Before we can consider extra-terrestrial sentient beings, we must first acknowledge previous advanced human(oid?) civilisations on earth.

We being us, humans. Collectively

How far back do you think we really go?

 

[wizardofid]

So many questions yet you won't consider looking at those videos that suggest there's answers. Would it surprise you to learn that there are at least logical theories which can explain much of that? A few amazing facts too if you look deep enough.

But fair enough if you prefer to follow your own logic avenue.

Question since when is videos considered evidence, can you with certainty claim that the videos and claims made to be truthful and authentic and unaltered. Because some tinfoil mad hatter says so on a video.

There has not been a single shred of presented evidence proven to be truthful, there isn't a SINGLE shred of evidence in private hands either and if there is few are willing to present such evidence for examination to prove it is authentic.

Why does VERY single alien conspiracy theorist insist on government information suppression.It is a fcking stupid lame ass excuse.

What is more proven evidence physically showing you I can lick my own bumhole or sending you a video licking my bumhole.

The only conspiracy theorist worse than aliens visiting earth is, flat earthers. Their IQ is on the same level, no wonder aliens only zip across the sky and never land, no intelligent life to be found.

Don't worry I will wait outside for aliens tonight to come probe me in the anus and tell you all about it tomorrow

 

[Heisenborg]

Some proper nutters in here

 

[Jings]

My personal belief has ended up that most visitors are inter-dimensional travelers, not space travelers. Perhaps that partially explains why so much of the physics involved seems to bend the rules we normally observe.

Also makes sense that religious folk may interpret these visits as being more spiritual. As you and I go, quite possible anyway.

What experiencers interpret as spiritual may well just be different species.

But I totally understand when you mention inter-dimensional travellers. This universe is a symphony of frequencies that intersect and create patterns.

Even the "dog whistle" used to invite UAP's simulates Schumann resonance.

https://codepen.io/ionut-stoica-the-bold/pen/MYWNQLO

 

[Brian_G]

Some proper nutters in here

Don't be self-defeatist ;- )