Do you believe aliens exist?

Do you believe aliens exist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 351 69.1%
  • No

    Votes: 105 20.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 52 10.2%

  • Total voters
    508
What I’m also noticing more and more is that those who “claimed to be abducted” were in almost all cases on something.
It is even known that L.Ron.Hubbard created his cult while tripping on LSD
 
You seem to think scientists are controlled by the government. In truth, outside of NASA, most research is privately funded. NASA’s budget is only about $26 billion—roughly 0.37% of the U.S. federal budget. The U.S. government has little direct control or vested interest in independent scientific study.

Fusion and Speed of Light
Fusion isn’t limitless energy—it’s still a finite fuel source in the sense once you leave a resource you only have the fuel you have with you. According to E=mc², the faster something travels, the more energy is required to accelerate it. As an object approaches light speed, its energy requirement becomes infinite. No amount of fuel can get you there. Light itself doesn’t accelerate—it always moves at light speed. Photons have zero rest mass and instantly move at c unless slowed by matter.

Simply put, aliens aren’t flying armadas here. The energy cost is infinite. Even if you could reach near-light speed, the g-forces would crush you instantly. Accelerating or decelerating at that rate would be lethal. This isn’t a technology issue but a problem of physics—mass, gravity, and energy.

Realistic Projects
There’s a real project to send a coin-sized probe to Proxima Centauri using lasers and light sails—reaching maybe 20% of light speed. Even then, it would take 20 years, and that’s for 20 grams. Accelerating a 20-ton ship to that speed would require more energy than humanity has ever produced and likely a 100 times more.

Space Hazards
Space isn’t empty. It’s full of dust and micrometeoroids that constantly hit the ISS, slowly eroding its hull. At higher speeds, those impacts would be catastrophic. Space radiation is another killer—cosmic rays, solar radiation, and magnetic fields like Jupiter’s deadly magnetosphere, which stretches millions of kilometers. Even passing near large planets could be fatal due to radiation exposure.

Survival in space isn’t just about speed—it’s about enduring an environment designed to kill you quietly and efficiently.

Wormholes and Space Folding
Wormholes are theoretical. While math allows for spacetime curvature, folding space so points A and B coexist would need an impossible amount of mass—more than the universe itself. We know gravity bends space, but large-scale “folding” remains fiction.

Dark Matter and Energy
Dark matter and dark energy shape galaxies, yet we still don’t know what they are. Galaxies shouldn’t hold together with visible matter alone—dark matter’s unseen gravity does the job, there is no reason to believe that will allow for space travel either.

Materials and 3D Printing
We understand atomic structures, but you can’t just “3D print” advanced materials in bulk. Different atoms need specific reactions to bond—heat, chemistry, or pressure. Steel, tungsten alloys, and other metals depend on atomic alignment and treatment to achieve strength. Metal 3D printing introduces stress and fractures that still need heat treatment. Large-scale printing in space is impractical.

Resources are also finite. Planetary composition depends on local matter from star and planet formation. Earth’s elements came from gas clouds and later asteroid impacts. Other worlds differ wildly—some rain molten glass or metal.

Nuclear Myths and Alien Tech
We don’t have enough nukes to kill everyone instantly. Fallout, famine, and radiation would, eventually. So, assuming every alien race is vastly ahead of us is absurd.

Stellar Lifetimes and Habitability
The universe is ~13 billion years old; our solar system only 4.6 billion. G-type stars like our Sun live about 10 billion years, offering a relatively stable environment—but they’re rare, only 5–10% of all stars. Most stars are unstable or hostile to life. Red dwarfs, though common, emit violent flares that sterilize planets. Hypergiants like UY Scuti live only a few million years and end in deadly hypernovae, which can sterilize any surrounding stars system within 160 light years.

Stable stars are crucial. Only a tiny fraction (around 5–10%) can sustain life long enough for it to evolve. Of those, only ~56% are single stars; the rest are binary or multiple systems, which are less stable for habitable orbits, it can but less likely.

Cosmic Context
Not all stars or life forms are at the same evolutionary stage. Some may have perished billions of years ago; others haven’t yet formed. Life might be extremely rare or incredibly abundant—we simply don’t know. The Fermi Paradox remains unresolved. Given how hostile the universe is, rarity seems more likely.

For intelligent life to arise, evolve, build technology, travel space, and find Earth requires astronomical luck. Even then, not all intelligent species would become explorers. Some may have destroyed themselves, regressed, or never developed the will or means to travel. Others may simply not know we exist.

Evidence (or Lack Thereof)
There’s zero credible evidence that aliens have visited Earth—none. Believing otherwise without proof is irrational. We still haven’t found Bigfoot or the Yeti on our own planet, and we’re discovering new species every year.

If we can’t find evidence of terrestrial mysteries under our noses, what makes anyone think aliens have secretly come and gone?

Until we have physical, verifiable evidence—not anecdotes or speculation—the only logical conclusion is: there’s no proof aliens have ever visited Earth. Videos is no scientific evidence and it doesn't only apply to aliens. Pretty much every scientific study.

Why are you using hypothetical pseudoscience to make an argument, how about using real and actual science to counter.

Statically secrets always leaks,For a secret of that scale to hold, you’d need every world power, telescope, scientist, and amateur astronomer to be complicit, for decades, with zero leaks. Really ? It is physically impossible.

An excellent summary. You've debunked every crackpot pseudoscience belief out there. I thank you for that. May I use your summary?

Explain the missing link then.

What explanation do you need for the missing link? Fossils are rare and need exact conditions to form. Despite people thinking they are common, only a tiny fraction of 0.1% of life becomes a solid fossil. Even the solid fossil record of humanity is not complete. H. Naledi was discovered only recently.

It’s not him saying these things but rather the Sumerians.

Noah is also a Sumerian legend, and the reason a circle has 360 degrees is due to the quirks of Sumerian mathematics. A doped up wannabe politician crackpot who got almost no votes repeating Sumerian legends makes them true? Adam's calendar has been completely debunked. The stones, he says, line up, actually don't align.

Do you not think there a Planet X orbiting our sun on a 3600 year orbit?

Until proof is provided, Planet X is speculative.

Can you explain what happened to the asteroid belt? They can.

What do they say happened to the asteroid belt?

As for the asteroid belt... it’s not the remains of some blown-up planet... it’s just space rubble that never got its act together because Jupiter kept messing with it. No cosmic explosion conspiracy required... just physics doing its boring, predictable thing.”

The rings of Saturn and Jupiter are accretion discs of moons that never coalesced, just like the asteroid belt is a planet that never coalesced due to the massive influence of Jupiter's gravity.

Why are there ancient stories of two suns in the sky?

For the same reason, there are stories of a worldwide flood.

top politicians DONT know about the Aliens, only very few isolated people that are very heavily monitored and privileged know about the aliens, and what secret work is being done to reverse engineer their technology, and culture,

Who is monitoring these people, and who funds them?

what if we simply haven't discovered things, its almost like the the speed of sound being broken, Pilots never believed it could be broken, until it was,

Pilots of those days were definitely not aeronautical engineers or physicists. They wore more like gung ho sports jocks. Until aeronautical engineers were recognised as a scientific discipline, no pilot could exceed the sound barrier.

and stealing new tech in the name of national security and then assassinate the inventor.

New tech needs enormous funding. Who is funding this new tech that the governments are stealing? Governments are technically inept and have no idea what to do with new tech. Wouldn't the funder be screaming if their patents were stolen?

and yet most stars in the universe are binary?

This makes a stable solar system capable of supporting life such as ours a rarity.
 
I guess we will just have to wait for it to get closer so we can see it with our telescopes.
“we’ll just wait to see it with a telescope” is kinda misleading. The universe is messy — dust clouds, gas, and other stars often block direct views, plus gravity can bend light in weird ways (gravitational lensing). Even our own solar system is full of dust and gas.


Most of the time, planets aren’t spotted by just looking at them. We detect them indirectly — like noticing how a star wobbles because of a planet tugging on it, or watching its light dim when a planet passes in front (transits). Sometimes even the planet’s heat or gravitational effects on surrounding objects give it away.


So yeah, hoping to just “spot it” directly usually isn’t how it works. You more likely to spot a planet, using more primitive solutions like radio astronomy, than optical telescopes.
 
An excellent summary. You've debunked every crackpot pseudoscience belief out there. I thank you for that. May I use your summary?



What explanation do you need for the missing link? Fossils are rare and need exact conditions to form. Despite people thinking they are common, only a tiny fraction of 0.1% of life becomes a solid fossil. Even the solid fossil record of humanity is not complete. H. Naledi was discovered only recently.



Noah is also a Sumerian legend, and the reason a circle has 360 degrees is due to the quirks of Sumerian mathematics. A doped up wannabe politician crackpot who got almost no votes repeating Sumerian legends makes them true? Adam's calendar has been completely debunked. The stones, he says, line up, actually don't align.



Until proof is provided, Planet X is speculative.



What do they say happened to the asteroid belt?



The rings of Saturn and Jupiter are accretion discs of moons that never coalesced, just like the asteroid belt is a planet that never coalesced due to the massive influence of Jupiter's gravity.



For the same reason, there are stories of a worldwide flood.



Who is monitoring these people, and who funds them?



Pilots of those days were definitely not aeronautical engineers or physicists. They wore more like gung ho sports jocks. Until aeronautical engineers were recognised as a scientific discipline, no pilot could exceed the sound barrier.



New tech needs enormous funding. Who is funding this new tech that the governments are stealing? Governments are technically inept and have no idea what to do with new tech. Wouldn't the funder be screaming if their patents were stolen?



This makes a stable solar system capable of supporting life such as ours a rarity.
One of the moons of Nibiru collided with a planet there where the asteroid belt is now.

These inventions were created in peoples garages. No funds needed. All inventors are dead now and tech confiscated.
 
“we’ll just wait to see it with a telescope” is kinda misleading. The universe is messy — dust clouds, gas, and other stars often block direct views, plus gravity can bend light in weird ways (gravitational lensing). Even our own solar system is full of dust and gas.


Most of the time, planets aren’t spotted by just looking at them. We detect them indirectly — like noticing how a star wobbles because of a planet tugging on it, or watching its light dim when a planet passes in front (transits). Sometimes even the planet’s heat or gravitational effects on surrounding objects give it away.


So yeah, hoping to just “spot it” directly usually isn’t how it works. You more likely to spot a planet, using more primitive solutions like radio astronomy, than optical telescopes.
I meant it needs to get closer to the sun so we can see it. At the moment its too far away.
 
An excellent summary. You've debunked every crackpot pseudoscience belief out there. I thank you for that. May I use your summary?



What explanation do you need for the missing link? Fossils are rare and need exact conditions to form. Despite people thinking they are common, only a tiny fraction of 0.1% of life becomes a solid fossil. Even the solid fossil record of humanity is not complete. H. Naledi was discovered only recently.



Noah is also a Sumerian legend, and the reason a circle has 360 degrees is due to the quirks of Sumerian mathematics. A doped up wannabe politician crackpot who got almost no votes repeating Sumerian legends makes them true? Adam's calendar has been completely debunked. The stones, he says, line up, actually don't align.



Until proof is provided, Planet X is speculative.



What do they say happened to the asteroid belt?



The rings of Saturn and Jupiter are accretion discs of moons that never coalesced, just like the asteroid belt is a planet that never coalesced due to the massive influence of Jupiter's gravity.



For the same reason, there are stories of a worldwide flood.



Who is monitoring these people, and who funds them?



Pilots of those days were definitely not aeronautical engineers or physicists. They wore more like gung ho sports jocks. Until aeronautical engineers were recognised as a scientific discipline, no pilot could exceed the sound barrier.



New tech needs enormous funding. Who is funding this new tech that the governments are stealing? Governments are technically inept and have no idea what to do with new tech. Wouldn't the funder be screaming if their patents were stolen?



This makes a stable solar system capable of supporting life such as ours a rarity.
Do as you please it is a super fun subject, and enjoy it very much :)
 
Life somewhere out there? Almost definitely.

Intelligent life? Out of the millions of species on earth only one evolved abnormally large brains for its body weight and subsequently only really started unlocking the use of electricity in the last 250 years. Which is nothing compared to the time frames of the universe.

Worse case scenario. Our “intelligence” could just be a starting point for extinction. It could be possible that no aliens ever reached planetary civilisation before succumbing to their own creations and the search for extra terrestrial intelligence ends up more like space archeology than making contact.

As for physical visitors. Doubt it. Why would they send themselves?

If an advanced alien race wants to explore I would expect the technology to be something akin to microscopic probes with immense computing power which will pass by unnoticed not even needing to enter our atmosphere to collect all the data they need.
 
I meant it needs to get closer to the sun so we can see it. At the moment its too far away.
people don’t get how different it is looking for stuff inside our own solar system versus billions of light years away. You can pick out galaxies and supernovae light-years away because they emit or reflect tons of light—but a planet way out past Neptune? It barely reflects anything, and it’s tiny and slow-moving compared to all the stars in the background.


Even Hubble or James Webb aren’t really built for this. They weren’t designed to stare at dark, cold objects on the outskirts of the solar system—they’re optimized for either very faint but distant objects or very high-res “nearby” things with good light. Trying to find Planet 9 is like trying to spot a firefly hiding behind a streetlamp from miles away… sometimes math can tell you where it could be, but spotting it is a completely different problem.
 
people don’t get how different it is looking for stuff inside our own solar system versus billions of light years away. You can pick out galaxies and supernovae light-years away because they emit or reflect tons of light—but a planet way out past Neptune? It barely reflects anything, and it’s tiny and slow-moving compared to all the stars in the background.


Even Hubble or James Webb aren’t really built for this. They weren’t designed to stare at dark, cold objects on the outskirts of the solar system—they’re optimized for either very faint but distant objects or very high-res “nearby” things with good light. Trying to find Planet 9 is like trying to spot a firefly hiding behind a streetlamp from miles away… sometimes math can tell you where it could be, but spotting it is a completely different problem.
Yes, that's what I'm saying. Thanks for confirming it.
 
Out of the millions of species on earth only one evolved abnormally large brains for its body weight
The real trick is also a solid, fascinating mystery - Mitochondria. It's the perfect symbiote.

Without it we would not exist in forms large enough to push our intellects as far as we have. And it is weird in so many wonderful ways.

Only transmitted maternally. Maintains its own DNA. Is heavily involved in cell function and division. Plays some interesting roles in certain types of cancer.
 
Yes, that's what I'm saying. Thanks for confirming it.
You working on the assumption it is real, you have missed a few steps, the assumption should be it is not and disprove it is. You going about it the wrong way.

Lets explain it this way. I hold a pen up in front of you and tell you the pen is real, with physical observation you can accurately say this to be true, now I have someone holding a pen behind me and it is obscured from physical view, how do you go about ascertaining whether I am telling the truth., theory and hypothesis is only going to take you so far. In it is simplest form a bit like
the Schrödinger's cat thought experiment at least the principle of the idea, not what the experiment intended but you get the gist.

Without physical observation always assume it isn't there.

In another way, I put you in a room, that is completely dark, with no windows or lights or sound can enter the room. I keep you in this room for several days, without knowing whether it is raining, snowing, day or night. How do you go about figuring out which is is which. The answer is guess. You do the experiment over and over and the results will be you will get it wrong more than you get it right.

Now enter the room and use a scientific/mathematical method with information that you can deduce with, what the conditions might be like outside the room, the chances are you will still more likely get it wrong without physical observation.

The gist

That’s the difference between a hypothesis and a verified fact. Hypotheses can guide you where to look, but they don’t replace direct observation. In real science, the rule is simple: if you can’t detect it physically, assume it isn’t there until proven otherwise. Anything else is just wishful thinking dressed up as reasoning.


For Planet 9, that means all the fancy math in the world doesn’t make it real — it just says “it could exist.” Until we actually spot it, it’s the dark room scenario: you don’t know, and the rational stance is to assume it isn’t there.
 
You working on the assumption it is real, you have missed a few steps, the assumption should be it is not and disprove it is. You going about it the wrong way.

Lets explain it this way. I hold a pen up in front of you and tell you the pen is real, with physical observation you can accurately say this to be true, now I have someone holding a pen behind me and it is obscured from physical view, how do you go about ascertaining whether I am telling the truth., theory and hypothesis is only going to take you so far. In it is simplest form a bit like
the Schrödinger's cat thought experiment at least the principle of the idea, not what the experiment intended but you get the gist.

Without physical observation always assume it isn't there.

In another way, I put you in a room, that is completely dark, with no windows or lights or sound can enter the room. I keep you in this room for several days, without knowing whether it is raining, snowing, day or night. How do you go about figuring out which is is which. The answer is guess. You do the experiment over and over and the results will be you will get it wrong more than you get it right.

Now enter the room and use a scientific/mathematical method with information that you can deduce with, what the conditions might be like outside the room, the chances are you will still more likely get it wrong without physical observation.

The gist

That’s the difference between a hypothesis and a verified fact. Hypotheses can guide you where to look, but they don’t replace direct observation. In real science, the rule is simple: if you can’t detect it physically, assume it isn’t there until proven otherwise. Anything else is just wishful thinking dressed up as reasoning.


For Planet 9, that means all the fancy math in the world doesn’t make it real — it just says “it could exist.” Until we actually spot it, it’s the dark room scenario: you don’t know, and the rational stance is to assume it isn’t there.
Like dark matter and dark energy?
 
Have you browsed the internet? Of course aliens exist, there is even a welcome thread for us/ I mean them, are you neurodivergent.
 
Like dark matter and dark energy?
With dark matter, you can see its effects everywhere — galaxies spinning too fast, the way light bends — you can measure it, even if you can’t see it directly. Dark energy? Same deal, universe is expanding faster than it should, and we can track that. There’s actual data showing it’s there.


Planet 9 is different. It’s supposed to be just one object out there. If it exists, we should be able to spot it because it reflects sunlight or gives off a tiny bit of heat. Right now, all we have are some weird orbital patterns that might hint at something, but nothing concrete. So unlike dark matter, it’s basically a “maybe” with zero proof so far
 
UFOs and claims of ‘non-human’ life have been thrown into the spotlight during a recent congressional hearing in Washington. With all this speculation, do you believe that aliens exist?
Does ANC Count?
 
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