Do you believe aliens exist?

Do you believe aliens exist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 351 69.1%

  • No

    Votes: 105 20.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 52 10.2%
  • Total voters
    508
Lupus said:
Humans have always been smart, we tend to think of ancient people being dumb, but they were just as smart as us. Oddly enough the Romans were one of the reasons for stagnation, not the "dark" ages as people think.
Romans tended to wanted things done a particular way and that is the way it remained for centuries, they also had slave labour for things that could've been made into machines like we do today.
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Who/how was this built-for-the-test-of-time structure destroyed? Why can't we recreate the technique with todays technology?

Why are there giant statues on easter island?
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wingnut771 said:
Who/how was destroyed this built-for-the-test-of-time structure? Why can't we recreate the technique with todays technology?

Why are there giant statues on easter island?
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For inexplicable earth artefacts id probably sooner consider something like Hancock's idea of a more advanced civilisation that was wiped out than that aliens did it.

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wingnut771 said:
I wonder what they used for electricity generation.
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The funny thing is that if something came along and wiped us out in a quick fashion, the records of what we had would be long gone. There would be remnants of it, but no one would know how it was made or why it was made. There could've been power, we don't know, there could've been advanced civilizations long gone as well. We don't know, history and nature overwrite 90% of what it created.
 
saor said:
For inexplicable earth artefacts id probably sooner consider something like Hancock's idea of a more advanced civilisation that was wiped out than that aliens did it.

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Ah, Graham Hancock—the guy who looks at a pile of stones and goes, “Yep, aliens definitely built this, or maybe Atlantis, probably both.” I get it, ancient mysteries are fun. But most of his theories are like taking a few coincidences, shaking them in a blender with “what if…?” and serving it as history.


For example, he’ll point at some random carving or pyramid and say it’s evidence of a lost advanced civilization that predates everything we know. Meanwhile, archaeologists are standing there like, “Yeah… that’s literally just how humans built stuff back then.” No aliens, no global cataclysm, just humans doing human things.


And his cataclysm theories? Basically: “The Earth got hit by a comet, wiped out everything, and civilization had to start over—trust me, I read a rock.” Which is wild… but dating methods, ice cores, and sediment layers tell a much less dramatic story. Sorry, Graham, the Earth didn’t hit CTRL+Z.


The fun part is that Hancock writes it all with this spooky, cinematic flair—so it sounds convincing. But if you take it as actual evidence, you’re basically playing “Ancient Aliens: The Board Game,” except the archaeologists already know all the rules., entertaining as fiction, questionable as history, and if you want to impress people at parties, maybe don’t start with “Did you know Atlantis built the pyramids?” unless you enjoy polite eyerolls.
 
Lupus said:
The funny thing is that if something came along and wiped us out in a quick fashion, the records of what we had would be long gone. There would be remnants of it, but no one would know how it was made or why it was made. There could've been power, we don't know, there could've been advanced civilizations long gone as well. We don't know, history and nature overwrite 90% of what it created.
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Who are the nephilim in the bible?
 
wizardofid said:
Ah, Graham Hancock—the guy who looks at a pile of stones and goes, “Yep, aliens definitely built this, or maybe Atlantis, probably both.” I get it, ancient mysteries are fun. But most of his theories are like taking a few coincidences, shaking them in a blender with “what if…?” and serving it as history.


For example, he’ll point at some random carving or pyramid and say it’s evidence of a lost advanced civilization that predates everything we know. Meanwhile, archaeologists are standing there like, “Yeah… that’s literally just how humans built stuff back then.” No aliens, no global cataclysm, just humans doing human things.


And his cataclysm theories? Basically: “The Earth got hit by a comet, wiped out everything, and civilization had to start over—trust me, I read a rock.” Which is wild… but dating methods, ice cores, and sediment layers tell a much less dramatic story. Sorry, Graham, the Earth didn’t hit CTRL+Z.


The fun part is that Hancock writes it all with this spooky, cinematic flair—so it sounds convincing. But if you take it as actual evidence, you’re basically playing “Ancient Aliens: The Board Game,” except the archaeologists already know all the rules., entertaining as fiction, questionable as history, and if you want to impress people at parties, maybe don’t start with “Did you know Atlantis built the pyramids?” unless you enjoy polite eyerolls.
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Here is a unlimited budget, please build this:
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wingnut771 said:
Here is a unlimited budget, please build this:
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People always freak out over pyramids and giant stone monoliths like, “Aliens! Magic! Lost super-civilization!” but really, humans were just bored out of their minds. No TikTok, no Instagram, no Netflix… just sun, sweat, and giant rocks. If your only hobby is chiseling stones and arguing about the best way to roll boulders uphill, yeah, you’re gonna make some pretty impressive stuff over a few centuries.

Also, these big projects only really happen once people aren’t starving all the time. Once society had stable food, some folks could actually spend their lives moving stones instead of panicking about dinner. Civilization + crops = people saying, “Hmm, I could farm, or I could build a giant triangle that will confuse historians in 5,000 years.”

And the projects took generations. You didn’t wake up one morning and have a finished pyramid. Grandpa lays the foundation, Dad rolls a few blocks, and you stick the capstone on. Family group chat back then probably went something like:
“Hey, can you move the big rock to the left?”
“Bro, I’m busy chiseling!”
“Do we even know which rock is left?”
“Does it matter, we’re all gonna be dead by the time it’s done anyway”

And it wasn’t all fancy monuments. A lot of carved stones were basically ancient daily notes. Some had legal stuff, some recorded taxes, and some were just boring life stuff. There’s even one that’s basically a shopping list. Imagine some guy carving, “Get 2 loaves of bread, 5 goats, and don’t forget the olives,” and thinking, yeah, this will last forever. Future archaeologists: “Ah yes, the pinnacle of human civilization: olive shopping.”

So yeah, the pyramids and stuff like it are impressive, but the “how” isn’t aliens or magic. It’s humans with too much free time, a bit of obsession, and a few hundred years to grind stone like it’s a full-time job. Civilization plus food plus boredom equals monument mania, and occasionally some stone memos about groceries.
 
So you do know the history about the statues right. A civilization that doomed them self's right.
As simple and easy explanation

The main idea is that the Moai represented the ancestors or important leaders of each clan on the island. People believed these statues had mana, a kind of spiritual power, which could protect the clan, bring prosperity, or help with crops and fishing. The bigger and more impressive your Moai, the more prestige and power your clan had. It was basically the flex equivalent look at my rolex.... “Look at our statue, our ancestors are strong, and we run this island.”

So, carving and placing these giant heads wasn’t just art—it was political and religious. It showed who was important, reminded everyone of their heritage, and was meant to spiritually guide and protect the community.

It was also their downfall....kinda ironic....people do strange, shyte, even today like believing aliens are real.
 
wizardofid said:
It was also their downfall....kinda ironic....people do strange, shyte, even today like believing aliens are real.
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Yes, enough evidence that not much has changed:
People believe the earth is still flat
People still vote ANC and for Trump
People still kill each other
 
I see everyone glossed over the who are the nephilim in the bible question.
 
wizardofid said:
@wingnut771
Look, I’m going to be honest—your notions are a bit out there lol. I wouldn’t say you’re gullible, just impressionable enough to ask questions, which is actually great. Your approach is unorthodox, and not all of it has a solid scientific basis—but exploring possibilities is fine, as long as you keep your feet on the ground too.


Honestly, it’s refreshing that this hasn’t turned into name-calling or flaring tempers. The focus should be on what we do know and can investigate, because chasing what we can’t know will just waste a lifetime.


Science is both abstract and logical. Focusing too much on one side can lead to bias and be counterproductive. In other words, don’t just dwell on “what ifs”—a healthy dose of “what is” has never hurt anyone.


Take aliens, for example. The idea of them is abstract because we don’t know for sure, but we can make relative assumptions based on logic, experience, and observation. That doesn’t make those assumptions automatically correct—variances are practically infinite.


Even in physics, our understanding has limits. For instance, nothing can travel faster than light—at least locally. But due to the expansion of the universe, galaxies can appear to recede faster than light at a distance. Locally, things follow normal rules, but at a distance, relativistic effects kick in. That’s just the weirdness of relativity for you.

Take everything with a healthy dose of salt and question everything within reason, an ancient text or drawing should be taken at face value, ones interpretation more often leads to bias. It should be used as a basis of study rather than conclusive proof. Bias can and will lead you down the rabbit hole of insanity.

But yeah go ahead, as you were.
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Stop weaponizing knowledge — not everyone wants to live in a world biased by facts and physics.
 
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