Do you believe aliens exist?

Do you believe aliens exist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 351 69.1%

  • No

    Votes: 105 20.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 52 10.2%
  • Total voters
    508
Jings said:
But not everything is an obvious debunk. Take for example Bob Lazar with the disinformation campaign against him, and the evidence that surfaced decades later that has vindicated him.
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Anyone working in Area 51 would have a security clearance and have signed non disclosure agreements. Speaking out would have resulted in a jail sentence. Lazar had numerous criminal convictions. You don't get a security clearance with a past like that.

What was his speciality that made him so sought after to work at Area 51 and how was he vindicated?
 
Brian_G said:
Those more interested in working out what's actually going on with the masses of strange events, than doing the fire dance around the science flames of uncertainty and presumption counter-logic, suggest you watch a good handful of episodes of Ancient Aliens.

Yes, it's got a bad name, and for sure there was a fair degree of exaggeration and jumping to conclusions, plus too much padding sometimes. But also some AMAZING facts, you'll find too many hard to deny or look past.

Problem is there's tons of episodes. But if you're willing to try seriously, doubt you'll be disappointed. I would say it cemented years of casual inquiry for me.


(Not back here to debate, but do your thing)
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Ancient Aliens is an American television series produced by Prometheus Entertainment that explores the pseudoscientific hypothesis of ancient astronauts in a non-critical, documentary format. Episodes also explore related pseudoscientific and pseudohistoric topics, such as: Atlantis and other lost ancient civilizations, extraterrestrial contact and ufology, and popular conspiracy theories. The series, which has aired on History since 2010, has been a target for criticism of History's channel drift, as well as criticism for promoting unorthodox or unproven hypotheses as fact.

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Ancient Aliens - Wikipedia

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Jings said:
Karl Nell, a retired U.S. Army Colonel, laid out a controlled-disclosure timeline for UAP/NHI culminating in October 2030. He has held high-level military/strategic roles and now describes himself as an aerospace executive and UAP-advocacy figure.
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When someone retires from the military, their security clearance for information they acquired during service remains active. Any former military member speaking about anything classified they knew about will be charged and possibly imprisoned.
 
Mariner said:
When someone retires from the military, their security clearance for information they acquired during service remains active. Any former military member speaking about anything classified they knew about will be charged and possibly imprisoned.
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Yes but it sounds like he was just detailing legal release timelines, not actual content.
 
wingnut771 said:
In Zimbabwe apparently. To repair their atmosphere.
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How do you know this?
Where in Zimbabwe?
How do you use gold to repair an atmosphere?
How do they live long enough to travel to Earth?
How did they know Earth had gold reserves sufficiently shallow to be mined?
What speed did they travel at?
Will their planet with the broken atmosphere still be inhabited when they get back with gold?
How did they mine the gold?

There are many more questions which you should ask and answer before making such statements.
 
Mariner said:
How do they live long enough to travel to Earth?
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What speed did they travel at?
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May not be relevant if other (theoretical) methods of transport, or origination, turn out to be factors.
 
Yes, it would foolish to think we're alone.
 
Mariner said:
How do you know this?
Where in Zimbabwe?
How do you use gold to repair an atmosphere?
How do they live long enough to travel to Earth?
How did they know Earth had gold reserves sufficiently shallow to be mined?
What speed did they travel at?
Will their planet with the broken atmosphere still be inhabited when they get back with gold?
How did they mine the gold?

There are many more questions which you should ask and answer before making such statements.
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I didn't make any statements, I just read the book I already posted here.
 
Brian_G said:
May not be relevant if other (theoretical) methods of transport, or origination, turn out to be factors.
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Why do we always put other life forms on a pedestal and believe they have superior hypothetical pseudoscientific technology? The word theoretical means the hypothesis has been proven, and the method of transport is in the realm of science and technology.

Your statement presupposes a humanoid carbon based life form. It's most likely that an alien life form will not be humanoid.
 
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