Do you believe aliens exist?

Do you believe aliens exist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 215 81.1%

  • No

    Votes: 50 18.9%
  • Total voters
    265
kolaval said:
You cannot achieve breaking the laws of physics. Everywhere we look galaxies etc behave the same way; the laws of physics work the same there as well.

An atom here will be the same as an atom there etc, ergo any alien will be subject to the laws of physics as well.
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You're using a limited human brain / intelligence to think in terms of what we've "mastered" in physics.
You're assuming "they're" on the same "level" as us...when they could be millions(?) of years more advanced.
Look how far we've come in the last 150 years (assuming we did it on our own)...imagine what we could do in a few hundred thousand...? ...if we survive that long....
;)
 
Sigh, you're still not getting it, and arguing that 'clever' humans or aliens will be able to magically travel(in human time frames) between stars/galaxies/clusters is just a romantic dream.

You'll have to build spaceships where generations will live and die before reaching even the nearest star.

The universe exists due to some fundamental properties/laws.
If not for those properties atoms would not exist, and neither you nor the aliens.
Those properties also govern your, the clever alien and even light movement in space and time.
It is not a human invention or equation that can be bettered, it is a fundamental limit in the universe.

This should better explain it:
[video=youtube_share;ZL4yYHdDSWs]https://youtu.be/ZL4yYHdDSWs[/video]

I can see from the replies in this thread that we are going to have the same arguments over and over though.
 
Also interesting
[video=youtube_share;BAoEnV3Zt_Q]https://youtu.be/BAoEnV3Zt_Q[/video]
 
kolaval said:
TL;DR
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I read the first one or so sentences and it's clear that you're thinking with a simple human brain...and that's alright...we all do it...mostly.

The problem is you're assuming that they're only able to travel at the speed of light ;)
If you showed someone from 6000 years ago, the stuff we can do today...they'd probably think you're god :)
 
If you could talk to an Amoeba or a tardigrade and ask them the same question their answer will most probably be "No".
We only perceive what our senses and brain is able to perceive.
Aliens might be right in front of us but because of the limitations of our senses we are not able to experience them (it)
 
No. I will accept the claim that aliens exist when I am sufficiently convinced of it based on evidence. Until then, I do not accept the claim that aliens exist. However, this does not mean that I accept that aliens do not exist, as that is another claim which needs to be proven based on its own merit (and how you'd go about proving a negative is another subject entirely). So I accept the null hypothesis.
 
Reply to life out there

Given the expanse of the (observable) universe, countless galaxies, stars, forms of life are very likely.
Whether bacteria, microbes, or evoluted past our probably-primitive lifeform, impossible to speculate.
Will ET call? Unlikely, as c (light velocity) is the universe's practical speed limit.;)no intelligent life here.jpg
 
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Careful Clive, @Sl8er and co regards light velocity a "limited human brain / intelligence" problem.
And even though all physical matter in the universe has to obey the rule and it's implications, the aliens will be travelling faster.
 
Careful Clive, @kolaval can't seem to grasp the concept / possibility that "the aliens" would most probably be able to manipulate light velocity / physics in ways far more advanced than our (his) "limited human brain / intelligence" could ever hope to imagine -right now.

*rolleyes*
 
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