Do you own a firearm?

[My_King]

Ballistics. OMF. USELESS!!!

Bruh if you own illegally then @ProvoZA should not even touch this thread or given that reply

 

[wingnut771]

How does ballistics work? Do they register the ballistics when the gun is new and being registered or only when they are investigating a crime and they matching bullet to a gun?

 

[My_King]

How does ballistics work? Do they register the ballistics when the gun is new and being registered or only when they are investigating a crime and they matching bullet to a gun?

They don't have the facilities. Only when investigating a crime.

 

[My_King]

A large amount of cops are illiterate and have no idea how to spell PC, so I wonder how well their gun owner database is maintained. Our guv is incapable of providing the most basic of services like water and power.

I hope the database and backups can go corrupt one day

 

[My_King]

...but then what kak will that cause

 

[NR7]

How does ballistics work? Do they register the ballistics when the gun is new and being registered or only when they are investigating a crime and they matching bullet to a gun?

So a ballistics report gets done on bullets recovered at a crime scene.
Any guns recovered on a crime scene (or from suspects) are supposed to be test fired to obtain a bullet so that they can compare that bullet to the ones on the system (the markings left by rifling from rifled barrels or barrel wear on the round from smooth bore shotguns etc).
The report stays on the system so that they can possibly link future recovered guns to old crimes.

Works okay but is slow as hell. It's a system that could use a helluva lot of work to improve it and make it less of a pain for legal gunowners - eg. police seem to think you have to ballistic test every gun used in self defense when they don't have to if you admit that's the gun you used, they just waste resources and someone can sit without their gun for anywhere from 6 months to 2 years).



And when they do amnesties, they don't grant immunity to those handing it in. So obviously no criminals are going to hand in their guns when all their details are captured and the things are sent to be ballistically tested and linked to ALL previous crimes.
Major oversight by the cops who don't seem to think ahead at all, but then again most amnesties (usually alongside increasingly lengthy licensing/relicensing processes) are just to try and make more legal gun owners hand over their guns.

 

[Gabe Owner]

Bruh if you own illegally then @ProvoZA should not even touch this thread or given that reply

I've invested to much time and energy doing it the right way. I'm not taking unnecessary risks.

 

[Toxxyc]

I have a few guns, yeah. They're lekker.

 

[Y'all Qaeda]

I've been told that you should have an unlicenced firearm in your house, shoot the nocturnal visitors with it and say that you managed to wrestle it off of them, or at least have it as part of the crime scene.

Trying to do a licence in the netherlands for sport shooting, but it's tricky. The ranges near me all do "wipvogelschieten" and I don't fancy shooting like that.

 

[wingnut771]

I've been told that you should have an unlicenced firearm in your house, shoot the nocturnal visitors with it and say that you managed to wrestle it off of them, or at least have it as part of the crime scene.

Trying to do a licence in the netherlands for sport shooting, but it's tricky. The ranges near me all do "wipvogelschieten" and I don't fancy shooting like that.

What am I looking at?

 

[Toxxyc]

I've been told that you should have an unlicenced firearm in your house, shoot the nocturnal visitors with it and say that you managed to wrestle it off of them, or at least have it as part of the crime scene.

It's **** like this that's causing problems for legal firearm owners in the country.

 

[Y'all Qaeda]

What am I looking at?

Wipvogelschieten...

They shoot at little target boxes up in the air, about the same height as a stadium light. Small bird shaped targets in the box.

 

[Y'all Qaeda]

It's **** like this that's causing problems for legal firearm owners in the country.

Not really. It's the legislation and incompetence/unwillingness from the police combined with a government that doesn't want their citizens armed that's causing problems for legal firearm owners in the country.

If you have an unlicensed weapon, at the very least you're removing one from circulation.

 

[wingnut771]

Wipvogelschieten...

They shoot at little target boxes up in the air, about the same height as a stadium light. Small bird shaped targets in the box.

Where do the bullets land when you miss?

 

[Toxxyc]

Not really. It's the legislation and incompetence/unwillingness from the police combined with a government that doesn't want their citizens armed that's causing problems for legal firearm owners in the country.

If you have an unlicensed weapon, at the very least you're removing one from circulation.

Sure. But spreading ideas about breaking the law surely isn't helping. Your argument is stupid. By that logic, I should be the one doing 180 on the highway in the middle lane, because at the very least I'm removing one lane for people to speed on.

 

[Y'all Qaeda]

Where do the bullets land when you miss?

I didn't get around to asking that question. I'm assuming that the target is orientated in such a manner that it falls in the yard of someone the club owner doesn't like, and that you can re-orient it for a fee.

Seriously though, the target is like a square cone, you'd have to try to miss. Also, from what I've seen, they shoot .22, anything larger will destroy the target.

 

[Y'all Qaeda]

Sure. But spreading ideas about breaking the law surely isn't helping. Your argument is stupid. By that logic, I should be the one doing 180 on the highway in the middle lane, because at the very least I'm removing one lane for people to speed on.

Why would speeding on a lane remove it from allowing others to speed? That makes no sense. It's not like there is a finite amount of road? There is however a finite amount of weapons. Albeit likely much larger supply than demand. Additionally, it wasn't really an argument, more a statement, and one which I'm not really invested in enough to debate anyway.

Given the legal framework and approach of the police when a legal firearm owner uses their weapon, having an illegal one available to stack the scene in your favor is definitely not the worst idea. But sure, I'll add a disclaimer at the end and say:"Don't do it kids."

 

[Y'all Qaeda]

Where do the bullets land when you miss?

I lost interst really quickly when I saw the rifles orientated nearly vertical, figuring that if that it the way to get a firearm for sport shooting I'd rather not have it.

There is some clay pigeon clubs around, but they require me to speak dutch at a higher level than I do at the moment, so that's on ice. Likely those people will be able to point me in the direction of a more traditional range.

 

[MentellusMaximus]

Some really stupid comment have entered the thread now

Braaivleis kak stories, passed on from one drunk to another over the years, growing tails and eventually believed by some.

 

[RanzB]

Some really stupid comment have entered the thread now

Braaivleis kak stories, passed on from one drunk to another over the years, growing tails and eventually believed by some.

Best is when non-firearm owners argue with you about the laws.

Been told it's illegal to carry hollow-point ammunition so many times.