Dog poisoning

ToxicBunny said:
I would completely agree that in general the owners are the worst kind, since they are generally bought for the purpose of fighting, or because they're big and scary and then raised accordingly.

But to rubbish the breed outright is not on in my opinion, since they are an amazing breed when raised correctly.

I am also very wary of the breed in general when I come into contact with them, but I treat each dog as an individual case and when I can see that the dog is not aggressive I relax around them.
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durbandave said:
I disagree. Pit Bull can be the friendliest of dogs if raised and trained right. The type of people in the example given are they type of people who want their pit bulls to match their "macho" man image. More than often they are pricks and their dogs take on there persona because they are encouraged to be aggressive. On the other hand you get owners of pit bulls who don't do that and they end up with a loving gentle dog. I know many pit bulls who are as gentle as anything.
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Lmao EXACTLY what these people and hundreds of others espoused UNTIL their pitbulls turned on them.

http://bslforpitsmakessense.blogspot.com/2010/12/its-not-all-how-you-raise-em.html
 
Are there any reliable tested and proven inventions out there that would stop a dog from barking excessively.

Audio devices that pick up a bark from a dog giving off a sharp audio sound that only dogs can hear?
And would a device like that not constitute animal cruelty?
 
goth_nerd said:
My dog was poisoned this weekend, luckily me and my nephew noticed that she was vomiting and had diarrhoea. Since I don't have a car I couldn't take her to the vet so I forced her to drink milk and within a couple of hours she was ok. There have been attempts to steal my dog and I think after they failed they wanted to kill her. But she's a strong Jack Russell...
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Whoa glad she is alright and safe.
 
falcon786 said:
Lmao EXACTLY what these people and hundreds of others espoused UNTIL their pitbulls turned on them.

http://bslforpitsmakessense.blogspot.com/2010/12/its-not-all-how-you-raise-em.html
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ToxicBunny said:
And I can show hundreds of Pit Bulls that were cute, cuddling and loveable from birth until death... and I can also show other breeds that snapped and tried to kill their owners as well.
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They want to put theirs and their children's lives at risk all in the hopes that they have "raised them correctly" by all means go ahead. Know this, the stats don't lie.

1. There are plenty of bad dog owners.
2. More people own breeds other than Pit Bulls, yet Pit Bulls many to top the worldwide fatality list.

If those two don't tell you something, then good luck to you if you own one. Put your own life at risk but please don't put your children's lives at risk. These dogs have even been known to gang up in 2's and 3's even against children still in their carrier prams.

It's NOT worth it.
 
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darkevil said:
Are there any reliable tested and proven inventions out there that would stop a dog from barking excessively.

Audio devices that pick up a bark from a dog giving off a sharp audio sound that only dogs can hear?
And would a device like that not constitute animal cruelty?
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There are ultrasonic emitters e.g. http://www.iwarehouse.co.za/pets/bark-control/petsafe-outdoor-bark-control-unit/ that are supposed to deter dogs from barking, but it seems results are mixed. As for animal cruelty - I'd consider ultrasonic much less cruel than killing the animal.
 
If thats a shock collar, then thats just as cruel, and completely ineffective in the long term for most dogs.
 
If you purport to love your dogs look after them properly and train them or at least check on them when they bark.

leaving lonely animals to bark without responding to them is also cruel - to your neighbours.

/not condoning poison.
 
To cat owners, please keep your cats in your own house/premises then it is not necessary to poison other peoples dogs. They only bark when something/someone enters their territory and they try to warn their owners or defend their area.
 
falcon786 said:
but really would you blame somebody if in a situation like that they threw some poisoned food over his fence?
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Dude... there's a way to do things and a way not to do things.

To poison someone's dog, irrespective of the circumstance, falls quite neatly into the latter.

Yes, I would blame them, and I would expect the full force of the law to come down on them.
 
ToxicBunny said:
If thats a shock collar, then thats just as cruel, and completely ineffective in the long term for most dogs.
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I personally have not used ones, but people I know have. Now these are very dog loving people that live in complexes where unfortunately you have to do something otherwise the dog has to go.

The way they described the shock (after testing it on themselves), they said its the same "shock" as when you get static from another person. It starts off extremely mild and only increases in intensity if dog continues to bark. They have had great success and the dogs are pretty chilled now. And I can honestly say, the people who used them would never harm the animals. But yeah, use it when you run out of options. First choice is to train the dog.
 
The_MAC said:
I personally have not used ones, but people I know have. Now these are very dog loving people that live in complexes where unfortunately you have to do something otherwise the dog has to go.

The way they described the shock (after testing it on themselves), they said its the same "shock" as when you get static from another person. It starts off extremely mild and only increases in intensity if dog continues to bark. They have had great success and the dogs are pretty chilled now. And I can honestly say, the people who used them would never harm the animals. But yeah, use it when you run out of options. First choice is to train the dog.
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Problem is, my experience has been the opposite. The majority of those collars dish out shocks that hurt to some degree, and eventually the dog actually just ignores them entirely and then becomes harder to train.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Problem is, my experience has been the opposite. The majority of those collars dish out shocks that hurt to some degree, and eventually the dog actually just ignores them entirely and then becomes harder to train.
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What kind of dogs are you referring to here. Pitbulls? :)
 
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