Dole system on the cards for SA

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http://www.fin24.com/Economy/Dole-system-on-the-cards-for-sA-20121220

Bloemfontein - The ANC is set to approve a comprehensive package of grants for unemployed youth that is estimated to cost R30bn a year.

If approved, they will take to 18 million the number of South Africans who receive state support.

The grants are the opposite of a wage subsidy as the money is paid directly to jobless young people rather than to their employers.

Research by various agencies has found that if you don’t find a first job while young, you are likely to be terminally unemployable.

The first grant proposal is for a R450 per month benefit linked to incentive programmes.

An explainer from the social transformation commission, which sat on Wednesday, reads: “The central policy objective is to protect unemployed youth by preventing them from falling into destitution while promoting education and skills development, and developing labour activation programmes.”

The commission proposes the dole for youth be phased in over seven to 14 years, depending on economic growth.

It is expected to cost 3.5% of gross domestic product and will possibly double the state’s spending on social grants. The commission says this can be sped up, but doing this will have tax implications.

The social assistance packages are estimated to cost R22bn a year; the incentive to learn a skill or attend a programme could cost R2bn a year; and administration costs are likely to be R6bn a year.

Currently, the child support grant costs R35bn a year and youth support will almost double this.

ANC technocrats who drew up the proposals say the economy needs to grow at 3.5% a year to support this. Growth is currently much lower.

The document continues: “The programme will be tax funded, thereby distributing income from wealthier labour participants to those who are not able to access the labour market, thereby reducing inequality.”

The party moots funding from the fiscus.

It says government can implement more quickly if it dumps the reserves of the Unemployment Insurance Fund into a jobs fund to pay for the unemployed youth grants package and to alter the tax rebate systems.

“The economy is growing too slowly to absorb young people, and they are generally not the first to be considered by employers.

"Young people, especially those without matric, have been particularly affected by the downturn in the economy, so the queue of unemployed has (lengthened).”

In addition to the support package for jobless youth, the social transformation commission also debated how to embroider a better human rights culture into the state, especially with regards to sexual orientation rights.

Attacks on gay people have become chronic, with several murders that rocked the nation this year.

Nonracialism also came under scrutiny at the commission, with several delegates noting the ANC has lost its diverse character.

The party is now largely black African; there were only a few delegates who were white, coloured or Indian.

There was also discussion on how employment equity and black economic empowerment policies entrench racial classification.

My only response to this, is the ANC need to go and fsck themselves. I have money because I work for it. The little buggers must be given incentives to work, not just bloody given some of my damn money for nothing!
 
They need to focus on increasing the tax paying base, not funding the non-tax paying base.

While there is merit to the idea of creating a safety net for those who are unemployed, it's not sustainable in a third world economy where huge percentages of the population are terminally unemployed and everything is 3 times as expensive due to corruption.
As Europe has shown, it is even extremely difficult to maintain in first world economies with very high employment rates and much lower levels of corruption.

Pushing for things like this is a symptom of a government that is manned by uneducated people who havn't developed the skills to apply reasoning and logic. It's not that they arn't trying to think these things through...it's that they don't know how.
 
I wish they would look at the UK. This system has failed there. You get people becoming lazy because there is no need to work if the government is paying you...not to work.

Yeah, ANC, definitely haven't thought this through.
 
So if 18 million are now jobless and need government grants, that must mean our unemployment is well over 30% (18 million / 50 million = 36%?)

South africa's unemployment sits at 36%? Shocking.
 
Where would you go to find these greener pastures?

Currently South America is looking interesting, as is Asia....

I'm not a fan of Europe or North America, but I would possibly do Canada at a pinch if necessary.
 
Can't wait for taxes to increase and further neglect of infrastructure so this can be funded. They should print more money so inflation can reduce value of savings and tender retirement and pension funds valueless.

That way the whole country can live off the taxpayer.
 
Where would you go to find these greener pastures?

Australia hounds people with the appropriate skills, as does several European countries. Of course, there's also the UAE. Big salaries with significant tax breaks and an economy that is desperate to have your skillset? Difficult to not at least consider.
 
Of course, there's also the UAE. Big salaries with significant tax breaks and an economy that is desperate to have your skillset? Difficult to not at least consider.

That was the world's fastest consider ever.
 
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