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RonSwanson said:
Yet they are largely manufactured in China? I understand that this is reputedly under German supervision though, but I had some really poor quality tooling from them about 18 years ago. I remember thinking that it was a Chinese company that took a German name for quality purposes.I am not sure, but it was around the time of my divorce, it may be a glue gun?!
Good to know that they have improved.
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I think 95% of stuff is manufactured in China nowadays? Even Japanese Makita. DeWALT probably also? Does not matter, as you said, under 'supervision'. Volvo is even Chinese-owned.

You can simply feel the build quality. And appreciate the clever designs. The price:quality scale is insane.
 
capd said:
I think 95% of stuff is manufactured in China nowadays? Even Japanese Makita. DeWALT probably also? Does not matter, as you said, under 'supervision'. Volvo is even Chinese-owned.

You can simply feel the build quality. And appreciate the clever designs. The price:quality scale is insane.
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True that, and the quality from China has improved rapidly, very similar to Taiwan who were absolutely useless in the 70s, and gradually improved in the 80s and 90s.
 
RonSwanson said:
True that, and the quality from China has improved rapidly, very similar to Taiwan who were absolutely useless in the 70s, and gradually improved in the 80s and 90s.
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Fair but I also don’t think it’s possible to generalise based on nationality/countries of origin. I also think companies who have sold rights to brands to Chinese companies, as well as said Chinese companies, realise that they can’t get away for a long time by producing lacklustre quality goods which pale in comparison to that of the original brands, say European or American ones manufactured in those countries.

Look at Telefunken. Used to be great, now non existent after the brand name was sold to Chinese. Had they focussed on making quality products instead of fleecing ‘western’ (I don’t really believe in ‘western’ and ‘eastern’ per se, and believe we are more similar than not with ‘first world’ pockets throughout the world) consumers under the guise of original quality and standards, they would still be around.
 
capd said:
Fair but I also don’t think it’s possible to generalise based on nationality/countries of origin. I also think companies who have sold rights to brands to Chinese companies, as well as said Chinese companies, realise that they can’t get away for a long time by producing lacklustre quality goods which pale in comparison to that of the original brands, say European or American ones manufactured in those countries.

Look at Telefunken. Used to be great, now non existent after the brand name was sold to Chinese. Had they focussed on making quality products instead of fleecing ‘western’ (I don’t really believe in ‘western’ and ‘eastern’ per se, and believe we are more similar than not with ‘first world’ pockets throughout the world) consumers under the guise of original quality and standards, they would still be around.
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Telefunken? Ken haar nie. Miskien my oupa, hy het so radio gehad.
 
Crimson & Blue said:
These are excellent tools for the price.
www.altiven.co.za

Welding Holder 3" Magnetic, TOTAL TOOLS

Pull Force: 25 Lbs Specifications：3″ Angles:45°,90°,135° Material:Magnet and Steel Packed by double blister
www.altiven.co.za www.altiven.co.za

Same as ingco
Batteries can be interchanged.
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How is Ingco? Were on sale at Mica recently?

Bought a cheap Ingco corded drill (seems like Skil level quality) for R499 while still pondering if I should continue with Black and Decker ecosystem or move to Einhell ecosystem.
 
Crimson & Blue said:
These are excellent tools for the price.
www.altiven.co.za

Welding Holder 3" Magnetic, TOTAL TOOLS

Pull Force: 25 Lbs Specifications：3″ Angles:45°,90°,135° Material:Magnet and Steel Packed by double blister
www.altiven.co.za www.altiven.co.za

Same as ingco
Batteries can be interchanged.
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It looks like a corded drill?


Prices for cordless tools not too bad.

Here is a cordless one:

www.altiven.co.za

Rotary Hammer Set 20V Lithium-Ion

Voltage:20V No-load speed:0-900/min Impact rate:0-5100bpm Single impact force:1.5J Max drilling capacity:Φ16 in concrete Integrated work light With 3pcs SDS-plus drills NO battery and charger included Packed by color box
www.altiven.co.za www.altiven.co.za
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For just a hole here and there at your house you just need a normal cheap corded hammer drill like Ryobi. B&D etc.
Rather spend more money on better drill bits.
I like the Alpen long life range with that coating on the tips, they really drill nice and last long.
And if you really want to drill hassle free with your cheap drill, get the Alpen pro concrete drill bits. They expensive so just get the most used like 5 and 6mm and maybe 8mm and 10mm
These things go through bricks like a hot knife through butter
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Crimson & Blue said:
The same drill in yellow and black. See the reviews.

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Good reviews.

Thanks - just bought it as it was on special and needed to install a holder. Good to know local support - that is my concern with cheaper brands.

I'll go corded for the masonry but still want a cordless drill for lighter inaccessible spots.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
For just a hole here and there at your house you just need a normal cheap corded hammer drill like Ryobi. B&D etc.
Rather spend more money on better drill bits.
I like the Alpen long life range with that coating on the tips, they really drill nice and last long.
And if you really want to drill hassle free with your cheap drill, get the Alpen pro concrete drill bits. They expensive so just get the most used like 5 and 6mm and maybe 8mm and 10mm
These things go through bricks like a hot knife through butter
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I agree with the importance of a good bit, the picture you posted is of a wood bit.

Price is not bad for a set:


But my Adendorff set is probably the best masonry bits I owned so wont be needing to upgrade now
 
Crimson & Blue said:
These are excellent tools for the price.
www.altiven.co.za

Welding Holder 3" Magnetic, TOTAL TOOLS

Pull Force: 25 Lbs Specifications：3″ Angles:45°,90°,135° Material:Magnet and Steel Packed by double blister
www.altiven.co.za www.altiven.co.za

Same as ingco
Batteries can be interchanged.
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Can confirm
Their tools have been selling like crazy here
Total and Ingco handle heavy loads pretty well even on the mines
 
I'm in the market for a general-purpose cordless drill for the home. Should I get one with hammer action or is it unnecessary? Dewalt seems like a good brand to go for, is there anything else I should consider?
 
derp90 said:
I'm in the market for a general-purpose cordless drill for the home. Should I get one with hammer action or is it unnecessary? Dewalt seems like a good brand to go for, is there anything else I should consider?
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Hammer action helps if you're ever going to drill into walls (brick, masonry etc.).
 
derp90 said:
I'm in the market for a general-purpose cordless drill for the home. Should I get one with hammer action or is it unnecessary? Dewalt seems like a good brand to go for, is there anything else I should consider?
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If you want to drill masonry you need at least a hammer drill, preferably a rotary hammer. For wood a standard drill will do.
 
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