Driving licence card printer broken again

[kolaval]

Probably still using vacuum tape drives

 

[DreamKing]

it's not misinformation, there is no law against it the only person spreading misinformation is you and the government. Why the hell do you think they kept extending the deadlines during lockdowns? Cause they were being nice? No because they realised there was no valid foot to stand on.

according to ChatGPT ==>

In South Africa, driving with an expired driver's license is a violation of the National Road Traffic Act, 1996 (Act No. 93 of 1996). Specifically, Section 15(1) of the Act states that "no person shall drive a motor vehicle on a public road unless such person is the holder of a valid driving licence for that category of vehicle".

If your driver's license has expired, you are no longer considered a holder of a valid driving license, and driving with an expired license is therefore illegal. The penalties for driving with an expired license can vary, but generally include fines and potential legal consequences if you are involved in an accident.

It's important to renew your driver's license before it expires to avoid any legal or financial consequences.

 

[Lupus]

according to ChatGPT ==>

In South Africa, driving with an expired driver's license is a violation of the National Road Traffic Act, 1996 (Act No. 93 of 1996). Specifically, Section 15(1) of the Act states that "no person shall drive a motor vehicle on a public road unless such person is the holder of a valid driving licence for that category of vehicle".

If your driver's license has expired, you are no longer considered a holder of a valid driving license, and driving with an expired license is therefore illegal. The penalties for driving with an expired license can vary, but generally include fines and potential legal consequences if you are involved in an accident.

It's important to renew your driver's license before it expires to avoid any legal or financial consequences.

Drivers license never expires numbnuts, if it did you'd have to keep doing it over and over. The card expires not the license itself. That is why there is no actual law against the driver license card expiring which is what happens. Hell there are still some people with the green ID book licenses, guess what it's still valid as only the little card with your face on it expired, not your license, what part of this are you not getting?

Driving with J9 | Did you know your driving licence never expires? | Life

Since the national lockdown in March earlier this year motorists have been stressed out about expired driver's licence cards. Yet, most don't know it never expires, only your card does.

www.news24.com

 

[The_Librarian]

according to ChatGPT ==>

In South Africa, driving with an expired driver's license is a violation of the National Road Traffic Act, 1996 (Act No. 93 of 1996). Specifically, Section 15(1) of the Act states that "no person shall drive a motor vehicle on a public road unless such person is the holder of a valid driving licence for that category of vehicle".

If your driver's license has expired, you are no longer considered a holder of a valid driving license, and driving with an expired license is therefore illegal. The penalties for driving with an expired license can vary, but generally include fines and potential legal consequences if you are involved in an accident.

It's important to renew your driver's license before it expires to avoid any legal or financial consequences.

Then hold Fifoosi Malballas accountable for you being expired, it is NOT your fault, it's the Government's fault.

Onus is on the Govt to provide a SERVICE, that's why we pay TAXES and LEVIES.

If they cannot fulfill their MANDATE, then they will need to be R E P L A C E D

 

[DreamKing]

Drivers license never expires numbnuts, if it did you'd have to keep doing it over and over. The card expires not the license itself. That is why there is no actual law against the driver license card expiring which is what happens. Hell there are still some people with the green ID book licenses, guess what it's still valid as only the little card with your face on it expired, not your license, what part of this are you not getting?

Driving with J9 | Did you know your driving licence never expires? | Life

Since the national lockdown in March earlier this year motorists have been stressed out about expired driver's licence cards. Yet, most don't know it never expires, only your card does.

www.news24.com

you can use your news24 article to defend yourself in court.

the law is clear, you are illegal to drive with an expired driver licence card, you like it or not, it is what the laws said.

but I won't do that, and please stop to spread the misinformation.

 

[DreamKing]

Then hold Fifoosi Malballas accountable for you being expired, it is NOT your fault, it's the Government's fault.

Onus is on the Govt to provide a SERVICE, that's why we pay TAXES and LEVIES.

If they cannot fulfill their MANDATE, then they will need to be R E P L A C E D

true, but when anc government took their "responsibilities"?

at the end, "onus" is still with us.

 

[Prawn Hub]

Eish the system is offline.

I actually get this qoute now everywhere I go.

 

[ToxicBunny]

you can use your news24 article to defend yourself in court.

the law is clear, you are illegal to drive with an expired driver licence card, you like it or not, it is what the laws said.

but I won't do that, and please stop to spread the misinformation.

Much as you think ChatCPT is a valid source, it isn't. The law is incredibly clear actually, a license card expires, not a license.

 

[Lupus]

Much as you think ChatCPT is a valid source, it isn't. The law is incredibly clear actually, a license card expires, not a license.

Yup and he'll quote the part that says it's illegal to drive with an expired license. Which is true it is, but there is no expiring license, just the card which isn't actually the license.
That law was put in place when the government was going to implement an expiring license with the card, but as usual they didn't realise the paperwork involved and canned that part. Imagine they went through it, you'd need to do your test every 5 years not just the card.
They were even looking at it again recently

Motorists to Retake Driving Test Every 5 Years in SA

A new proposed set of road rules means that you would have to redo- not renew- your driver’s license every 5 years. No longer would you simply have to take an eye test, but now you would have to retake your entire driver’s test! Would you be able to pass your drivers test after being on the road...

thepanda.co.za

 

[The_Librarian]

I no longer request a temporary licence. If my licence expires in February, but it takes the DoT four weeks (or whatever) to get my licence re-issued, then it's their problem, not mine.

Especially with the printer being offline again.

They do not take their responsibilities seriously.

Finish en klaar.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Yup and he'll quote the part that says it's illegal to drive with an expired license. Which is true it is, but there is no expiring license, just the card which isn't actually the license.
That law was put in place when the government was going to implement an expiring license with the card, but as usual they didn't realise the paperwork involved and canned that part. Imagine they went through it, you'd need to do your test every 5 years not just the card.
They were even looking at it again recently

Motorists to Retake Driving Test Every 5 Years in SA

A new proposed set of road rules means that you would have to redo- not renew- your driver’s license every 5 years. No longer would you simply have to take an eye test, but now you would have to retake your entire driver’s test! Would you be able to pass your drivers test after being on the road...

thepanda.co.za

Yeah, they'll keep rattling that sabre, but they know that they can't do it really.

 

[lkpat]

Why, you didn't lose the original one, a temporary license is only there if you've lost the original. But that is not explained to people either.

The expiry date on the temporary one will indicate that it's still valid. The expiry date on the original will not.

 

[Lupus]

Yeah, they'll keep rattling that sabre, but they know that they can't do it really.

oh and this poster will keep jumping up and down that it is the law. If it was the law literally why have I seen multiple people get new licenses cards many many years after expiration without even an issue. Not even insurance cared as their licenses were valid, in fact in all my claims I've never even sent a picture of my cards.
They check on e-natis and if it's valid they approve, even a good traffic cop will just give the card back and say it's expired maybe get it changed.
But if you're that worried, keep the receipt and your current card you don't need a temp.

 

[Lupus]

The expiry date on the temporary one will indicate that it's still valid. The expiry date on the original will not.

You only need a temporary license if you've lost your previous one, you can keep the receipt and your old card if you're that worried.

 

[lkpat]

You won't get a fine, there is no law against driving with an expired card.

Driving with J9 | What to do if you're fined for an expired driving licence card | Life

Earlier this week, we reported that driving licences never expire, only your driving licence card does. But, what happens when you're stopped by traffic officials and get issued a fine?

www.news24.com

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'
The NRTA and its Regulations does not expressly state whether a driving licence card is a “document deemed to be a licence” as provided for in section 12.

It seems that there is no express indication that the expiration of a driving licence card is tantamount to the expiration of a driving licence and this question definitely warrants further and in-depth investigation. In order to avoid the risk of a fine, it is advisable that drivers of vehicles are at all times in possession of a driving licence card which has not yet expired.'

I've also had people I know drive around with ones that expired over 10 years ago, the only person who complained was a rental agency. Also honestly in my entire 23 years of driving, I've been pulled over 3 times.

A legal argument only counts in court, not at the roadside.
If you have time for courts, that's fine. I don't.

 

[Lupus]

I no longer request a temporary licence. If my licence expires in February, but it takes the DoT four weeks (or whatever) to get my licence re-issued, then it's their problem, not mine.

Especially with the printer being offline again.

They do not take their responsibilities seriously.

Finish en klaar.

You don't need the temporary, it's a money making scheme.

 

[Lupus]

A legal argument only counts in court, not at the roadside.
If you have time for courts, that's fine. I don't.

You don't need to argue with the traffic cop, that is your first mistake. Never ever go into being pulled over with a horrible mindset. Go in calmly, present your card and nod, smile and comply, if you get a fine for the card, take it and sort it out. If you don't have time for court that is your problem as it won't go to court,unless you sit on it.

 

[ToxicBunny]

oh and this poster will keep jumping up and down that it is the law. If it was the law literally why have I seen multiple people get new licenses cards many many years after expiration without even an issue. Not even insurance cared as their licenses were valid, in fact in all my claims I've never even sent a picture of my cards.
They check on e-natis and if it's valid they approve, even a good traffic cop will just give the card back and say it's expired maybe get it changed.
But if you're that worried, keep the receipt and your current card you don't need a temp.

Yup, I let mine "lapse" by 2 or 3 years once cos I just forgot about it...

A legal argument only counts in court, not at the roadside.
If you have time for courts, that's fine. I don't.

I received a fine for an expired license (wording was specific), and didn't fight it with the cop at all, just went to the public prosecutor a few days later and the fine was squashed. Took about 20 minutes.

 

[The_Librarian]

You don't need the temporary, it's a money making scheme.

Yep, figured that out.

 

[Lupus]

Yup, I let mine "lapse" by 2 or 3 years once cos I just forgot about it...



I received a fine for an expired license (wording was specific), and didn't fight it with the cop at all, just went to the public prosecutor a few days later and the fine was squashed. Took about 20 minutes.

Yup first mistake people make, never fight with the traffic cop, hence why in all 3 times I have been pulled over I've never been fined and I honestly should've been for all 3 times.