DSTv porn possibility backlash

jak3 said:
Um we've already discussed this. If their is so much pron on the net, why do you want them to offer it? The answer is convenience and ease of access. If its so much easier for you, itll be easier for the kiddies too.

In saying that, if the password system is acceptable solid it does improve the situation as it relates specifically to kids. But lets face it, this is multichoice we are talking about. You will probably type 9949 to hack into access it. Most kids are more tech savvy than their kids anyway, i would expect a hack to get passed around the classrooms within a few weeks.
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That's not the point. It's harder to access porn this way as it's more secure! Go on the net, search for porn on google and it's there! The only protection over children on the net is a silly "Are you 18 years or older" question. Wow that's safe and secure. And you might say, well not everyone has the net. Well the net is much cheaper and more easily accessible then a paid for tv subscription which allows for password protection etc.

I think the majority of us would still get porn off the net, heck I wouldn't subscribe as I have many places at my fingertips to get what I want. However, it's all our democratic right as to freedom of choice, so how dare anyone take that away from us? I couldn't care if you're a union, or Bin Laden... That's my right, not yours to decide for me!

And to those porn addicts who say it ruines lives... Yes I suppose it can if it's all you're fixated on. I am currently in the best relationship of my life where we both enjoy watching porn every now and again. It's far from unfaithful as if you wanna take it that far, you're saying that even looking at someone else is being unfaithful. No wonder you have such unrewarding relationships if you view it that way. We're all human, we all look at things. It doesn't mean we act on it! And yes, our sex life is amazing because we have fun and porn is part of that :D Heck, it gives us a lot of ideas to try out :D
 
jak3 said:
In saying that, if the password system is acceptable solid it does improve the situation as it relates specifically to kids. But lets face it, this is multichoice we are talking about. You will probably type 9949 to hack into access it. Most kids are more tech savvy than their kids anyway, i would expect a hack to get passed around the classrooms within a few weeks.
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No Albert. It can be set up so that it cannot be circumvented any easier than your ATM pin. I explained some of it earlier. Lets face it you dont really have any good arguments you're just convinced that porn will bring about the apocalypse and things like facts and logic aren't going to change your mind.
 
OK, lemme weigh in with some anecdotal stuff for a change, since the logical reasoning doesn't seem to get through to the idiots. (Don't even get me started on scientific facts, they're still trying to spell that)
Given my age, (early 30's) my friends and I have all had access to copious amounts of porn, from the "soft" pictures of topless women in Scope etc. in our early teens, to the most out-there, weird German and Japanese kinks, to your mainstream "hardcore" people doing it movies etc. etc.
And looking at our group, I can really see how it's affected us:
For example, 1 very happily married with kids; 1 about to be married; 2 in long term, stable relationships.
In fact, among people I meet / interact with in my age group, I know of nobody who's never watched porn (men AND women), and can't think of anyone who didn't at least enjoy it a little (again, that includes women). And yes, I know that cos I'm the type of person who asks or brings it up in conversation.
So there you go, no facts in that lot, but you prudish types never let inconveniences like facts get in the way of your misconceptions, not to mention your attempts to encroach on others' rights to decide for themselves what they do and don't want.
In short, why don't you all F-OFF and leave us to make our own decisions.
 
I don't understand why these people are being so full of it. This service is not forced on you. I'm pretty sure if you don't subscribe to it, you won't even need to worry about a PIN. It will probably not be available on your decoder. Your children will not have access, because it won't be there. It is not going to make any normal people commit sex crimes... and if it's not there, it won't stop psychopaths from committing sex crimes. If there is people who want porn through their satellite service, let Multichoice supply it to them. If you don't want it, just forget about it.
 
OK... then ban the internet too, where there is NO parental control and it is FREE.
 
o how easy it easy to blame other people, but why do they want to add a porn channel if they really want to make it pay to view?
 
Smooth Criminal said:
Maybe that was your problem. Learn to socialise with and date women before blaming your shortfalls on porn.
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Tru dat. I along with many others here can watch porn and talk to ladies and be in a meaningful relationship. That guy was just very weak and probably some fatso who stays in the basement and had no friends at school.
 
All I want to know is whether the 13 000 people are subscribers or just random people off the street? What does it matter if someone said no to the porn channel, but does not pay/have DSTV...
 
jak3 said:
So a drug dealer shouldn't hold some of the blame? Multichoice in this case will be providing a service which causes significant harm.

...but this is going in circles, the truth is they will never offer it, most people wouldn't take very kindly to the idea and it would harm multichoice's reputation (not that they have a very good one as it is). This forum mostly represents a small niche of horny 20/30 somethings who surf porn on a regular basis, so naturally they would be all for the idea.
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Why should a drug dealer be held responsible? Supply and demand. If people want to take drugs they will. Blaming the dealers is not getting down to the actual problem. Should we blame the government for alcohol and cigi's being legal?

Should we hate all catholics because so many of their priests molest little boys? Besides equating porn to drugs is very silly.
 
SpyderJ said:
I guess no one uses that parental control on the decoder!
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These are people who haven't figured out you can turn a television off. How can they possibly manage something as complex as parental controls?
 
elroc said:
4. Yes, the argument that porn doesn't in all cases turn people into molesters, rapists and murderers (check youtube for James Dobson interview with Ted Bundy) is indeed valid. But it is definitely a conducing factor in cases where these things occur. I know coming from a gaming background where the link between violent games and mass murderes are often made in the media, that the argument is not rock solid. But the link in this case is definitely a lot stronger, and in South Africa, where rape is already extremely prevalent, do we really want to stoke the fire?
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Not rock solid? The argument isn't even a micron thick. What link? And that Ted Bundy thing, get serious. Ted Bundy would never lie right? Would never manipulate some idiot by telling him what he wants to hear?
 
Damn, Helping Hand Fund just lost out on my monthly contribution. I'm not financing this BS any longer.

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Does DSTV have an 18 age restriction on their religious channels? I don't mind people feeding their religion addiction, but I am worried about children being exposed to this material.
 
Seriously - I think it would be a really bad idea to add this channel to DSTV. If you look @ research done in the States (read a book about it a year or so ago, but you can just google it), when pornography was introduced/legalized, cases of rape, molestation and people contracting STD's went through the roof. SA has a big enough problem with rape, STD's etc. Pornography is just such a lie that so many people are addicted to. It's generates the most traffic on the net and the most revenue which means it's good for business, but bad for morality.
 
niftyshorts said:
Seriously - I think it would be a really bad idea to add this channel to DSTV. If you look @ research done in the States (read a book about it a year or so ago, but you can just google it), when pornography was introduced/legalized, cases of rape, molestation and people contracting STD's went through the roof. SA has a big enough problem with rape, STD's etc. Pornography is just such a lie that so many people are addicted to. It's generates the most traffic on the net and the most revenue which means it's good for business, but bad for morality.
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what about the current:

sabc adult feature
etv adult feature
mnet adult feature


...seems they are magically forgotten- because they are free? not to mention we already have all possible platform porn available, not forgetting all the hustler and so on shops throughout the country.

do violent games, movies, books, music or comics cause murder? think twice before putting on some slayer as you might end up killing for candy...
 
OtakuD said:
No not really, if you take a look at America for example (and ok, so EVERYONE uses them for examples, but that doesn't change the facts), they have had porn channels and what not for YEARS now and yet we are no better with our sexual crimes than they are, in fact we are WORSE! If America had the amount of rape crimes we have in a single day there would be outrage. Now why do you suppose we have such a high rate with no porn channels in sight, compared to a country that has hundreds?

Edit: Guess I just dont see the point in disputing something that has no statistical relevance to sexual crimes, at least, not that I can see. Personally Id rather have ppl looking for their "fun" indoors than on the streets.
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Let me put another possible assumption in the open:
I asume that porn will actually keep a possible molester/rapist from doing their deed, because they can get their stuff at home! How is this for an assumption?
 
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