Cool E
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okay tell me, what will happen to etoll if DA wins Gauteng? Are they going to demolish it or what?
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E-toll Bill debate postponed
okay tell me, what will happen to etoll if DA wins Gauteng? Are they going to demolish it or what?
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Yes, most probably.
Nope.. But I'm hoping better management of the province & cities will clean it up (though in some areas we talking close to 2 decades of infrastructure decay?). Maybe it's because I'm from Cpt but Gauteng just looks like a disaster
Cool E
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how are they going to finance the loan?
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Through the fuel levy, as it should have been done all along.
But it's not really their problem anyway... it's SANRAL's problem.
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You are being trolled sir
saksakgp
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OK dude, I wont argue with you if you also believe that ANC has postponed this because they fear losing votes in the upcoming election.
marine1
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If the DA took over I bet you they would cancel the tolls.
They would uncover massive corruption and kickbacks, over costing, fraud etc etc
They would uncover massive corruption and kickbacks, over costing, fraud etc etc
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Like they did with all the municipalities they gained and fixed and then eventually lost again to the ANC due to the (...put expletives here....) voters just for the cycle (of corruption) to repeat again.
marine1
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Which ones did they lose? But yeah, I guess the voting public is far more brain dead than initially thought
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http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2013-03-18-514657d2b5bec/#.UZorAbX-F8E
This was not the ones I was thinking about as there was one in the Cape a few yeas ago won by the ANC after the DA took control and revamped the operations successfully but then again lost it due to voter stupidity or ANC buss'ing?.
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haha.... SANRAL must be blowing a gasket by now!
Yep and I am loving it.... every minute of it... I hope they die of heart attacks and other ...
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Catholic Church fights e-tolls
The Catholic Church said on Monday people should not buy etags or collaborate with the e-tolling of Gauteng's highways.
The Church had slammed the tolling project saying it is simply unacceptable to toll an existing stretch of road without providing alternative routes.
The Catholic Church has for the first time come out against the planned tolling of Gauteng highways.
The Church slammed the tolling plans saying there was lack of transparency when people asked why the roads were costing so much.
Toll road operator South African National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) said, the Church had a chance to raise its objections to tolling and should not be calling for anarchy.
Sanral’s Vusi Mona said, “If we are serious about being a democracy we should utilise the opportunities we are given.”
Anti-tolling group Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance's Wayne Duvenage said this was a key intervention.
“For the first time one church body said it is too easy to sit back.”
The Church added that it was worried of the effect of e-tolling on the poor.
Sanral said it was ready to roll out the e-tolls by July.
If the system is passed, Gauteng motorists will pay at least 30 cents per km to use a large stretch of upgraded highways.
Cosatu said it would continue to voice its disapproval of the project, with more protests planned.
CAPE TOLL BATTLE
The City of Cape Town last Friday presented a case against Sanral to stop tolling in the Western Cape.
The City filed an urgent interdict against Sanral to prevent it from implementing the proposed N1 and N2 Winelands tolling project.
The matter was heard in the Western Cape High Court over two days and concluded on Friday.
Head of the City's Transport Portfolio Brett Herron said judgment was expected to be handed down next week.
Herron believed they presented a confident case.
“I think our case is compelling and the matter is now in the hands of the judge.”
Article By: Stephen Grootes, EWN
The Catholic Church said on Monday people should not buy etags or collaborate with the e-tolling of Gauteng's highways.
The Church had slammed the tolling project saying it is simply unacceptable to toll an existing stretch of road without providing alternative routes.
The Catholic Church has for the first time come out against the planned tolling of Gauteng highways.
The Church slammed the tolling plans saying there was lack of transparency when people asked why the roads were costing so much.
Toll road operator South African National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) said, the Church had a chance to raise its objections to tolling and should not be calling for anarchy.
Sanral’s Vusi Mona said, “If we are serious about being a democracy we should utilise the opportunities we are given.”
Anti-tolling group Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance's Wayne Duvenage said this was a key intervention.
“For the first time one church body said it is too easy to sit back.”
The Church added that it was worried of the effect of e-tolling on the poor.
Sanral said it was ready to roll out the e-tolls by July.
If the system is passed, Gauteng motorists will pay at least 30 cents per km to use a large stretch of upgraded highways.
Cosatu said it would continue to voice its disapproval of the project, with more protests planned.
CAPE TOLL BATTLE
The City of Cape Town last Friday presented a case against Sanral to stop tolling in the Western Cape.
The City filed an urgent interdict against Sanral to prevent it from implementing the proposed N1 and N2 Winelands tolling project.
The matter was heard in the Western Cape High Court over two days and concluded on Friday.
Head of the City's Transport Portfolio Brett Herron said judgment was expected to be handed down next week.
Herron believed they presented a confident case.
“I think our case is compelling and the matter is now in the hands of the judge.”
Article By: Stephen Grootes, EWN
LazyLion
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Church's position on e-tolls applauded
Outa applauded the Catholic Church's stance against the e-tolling of Gauteng highways on Tuesday.
"We are extremely pleased that an entity of such stature and magnitude as the Catholic Church has come out to defend the country's citizens against a questionable decision and action by the state," Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa) chairman Wayne Duvenage said in statement.
"This denouncement of e-tolling by the church was clearly conducted after significant research and an introspective assessment of the pros and cons of e-tolling."
Duvenage said the church could have sat back and watched from the sidelines "as so many organisations do", but instead delved into the matter.
"It was ultimately the moral courage of various religious groups and other entities in the past that became the catalyst [for] apartheid's irrational 'house of cards' to come crashing down," Duvenage said.
"It would appear there is a case of deja vu in this matter of irrationality, which has raised the brow of this massive religious body."
The Southern African Catholic Bishops' Conference's (SACBC) justice and peace department said on Monday that it supported Outa in its case against e-tolling, to be heard by the Supreme Court of Appeal (SCA) in September.
"We... call for the immediate suspension of the GFIP [Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project] e-tolling project and a full-access review of it by an appropriate forum (the Public Protector, the Auditor General or a judicial inquiry)," it said in a statement.
"We appeal for a re-think regarding alternative methods of funding it."
The SACBC said it felt compelled to highlight the key moral issues underpinning e-tolling.
"Government has a mandate to govern, by virtue of having won an election. Does this mean that they are unaccountable until the next election?" it asked.
"Clearly not. Transparent public consultations on controversial issues are bound to be held and taken into account. We fear that this has not been adequately done in this case."
The SACBC said "it hardly seems appropriate" for the cost of implementing e-tolling to be nearly 74 percent of the total cost of the project.
It asked why increasing the fuel levy had not been considered, whether it was reasonable to privatise existing public roads, and what impact the project would have on the poor.
"Anything that raises the costs of doing business in the core of our South African economy will impact on the cost of living, and will disproportionately impact on the poor," it said.
"Why are we investing in more expensive public infrastructure that fails to address the desperate need for an integrated public transport system that is affordable?"
In April, the SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) said it would begin e-tolling on Gauteng roads within two months.
In April last year, the High Court in Pretoria granted Outa an interdict approving a full judicial review before electronic tolling could be put into effect.
The interdict prevented Sanral from levying or collecting e-tolls pending the outcome of a review. Sanral and the National Treasury appealed the court order. In September, the Constitutional Court set aside the interim order. In December, the High Court in Pretoria dismissed Outa's application to scrap e-tolling.
The court granted Outa leave on January 25 to take the matter to the SCA in Bloemfontein.
Source : Sapa /aa/tk/clh/th
Date : 21 May 2013 11:06
Outa applauded the Catholic Church's stance against the e-tolling of Gauteng highways on Tuesday.
"We are extremely pleased that an entity of such stature and magnitude as the Catholic Church has come out to defend the country's citizens against a questionable decision and action by the state," Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa) chairman Wayne Duvenage said in statement.
"This denouncement of e-tolling by the church was clearly conducted after significant research and an introspective assessment of the pros and cons of e-tolling."
Duvenage said the church could have sat back and watched from the sidelines "as so many organisations do", but instead delved into the matter.
"It was ultimately the moral courage of various religious groups and other entities in the past that became the catalyst [for] apartheid's irrational 'house of cards' to come crashing down," Duvenage said.
"It would appear there is a case of deja vu in this matter of irrationality, which has raised the brow of this massive religious body."
The Southern African Catholic Bishops' Conference's (SACBC) justice and peace department said on Monday that it supported Outa in its case against e-tolling, to be heard by the Supreme Court of Appeal (SCA) in September.
"We... call for the immediate suspension of the GFIP [Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project] e-tolling project and a full-access review of it by an appropriate forum (the Public Protector, the Auditor General or a judicial inquiry)," it said in a statement.
"We appeal for a re-think regarding alternative methods of funding it."
The SACBC said it felt compelled to highlight the key moral issues underpinning e-tolling.
"Government has a mandate to govern, by virtue of having won an election. Does this mean that they are unaccountable until the next election?" it asked.
"Clearly not. Transparent public consultations on controversial issues are bound to be held and taken into account. We fear that this has not been adequately done in this case."
The SACBC said "it hardly seems appropriate" for the cost of implementing e-tolling to be nearly 74 percent of the total cost of the project.
It asked why increasing the fuel levy had not been considered, whether it was reasonable to privatise existing public roads, and what impact the project would have on the poor.
"Anything that raises the costs of doing business in the core of our South African economy will impact on the cost of living, and will disproportionately impact on the poor," it said.
"Why are we investing in more expensive public infrastructure that fails to address the desperate need for an integrated public transport system that is affordable?"
In April, the SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) said it would begin e-tolling on Gauteng roads within two months.
In April last year, the High Court in Pretoria granted Outa an interdict approving a full judicial review before electronic tolling could be put into effect.
The interdict prevented Sanral from levying or collecting e-tolls pending the outcome of a review. Sanral and the National Treasury appealed the court order. In September, the Constitutional Court set aside the interim order. In December, the High Court in Pretoria dismissed Outa's application to scrap e-tolling.
The court granted Outa leave on January 25 to take the matter to the SCA in Bloemfontein.
Source : Sapa /aa/tk/clh/th
Date : 21 May 2013 11:06