Unsure what went wrong. Attempted to update the firmware, process started but error message popped up before completed. Modem has kicked the bucket. No light, no usb recognition. Taking it to Alberton Vodacare tomorrow. Pray for me. 
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vodacom3g
Vodacom Representative
Unsure what went wrong. Attempted to update the firmware, process started but error message popped up before completed. Modem has kicked the bucket. No light, no usb recognition. Taking it to Alberton Vodacare tomorrow. Pray for me.
Which firmware did you try to load?
Searched for the latest version on the web and tried 11.117.09 - I'm thinking that it MAY have been a bad move.
What is the latest Vodacom endorsed firmware & software versions for the modem on XP please?
Oh yes...V3G, you're doing a sterling job, china!
Cheerio
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sand_man
Honorary Master
R.I.P
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MidnightWizard
Executive Member
Resurrected in Partum
HOW -- WHY not even one of these
Please explain in a bit more detail
thanks
the APPREHENSIVE one
HOW -- WHY not even one of these
Please explain in a bit more detail
thanks
the APPREHENSIVE one
HOW -- WHY not even one of these
Please explain in a bit more detail
thanks
the APPREHENSIVE one
He 'brieked' his modem
sand_man
Honorary Master
So it would seem...
MidnightWizard
Executive Member
The "brieked" klein huisie
I understand as much
I asked for DETAIL -- like TECHNICAL details
Surely this thing happens quite often
and I am sure thst they have "vays und meens" to UNBRIEK it .
the EXASPERATED one
He 'brieked' his modem
I understand as much
I asked for DETAIL -- like TECHNICAL details
Surely this thing happens quite often
and I am sure thst they have "vays und meens" to UNBRIEK it .the EXASPERATED one
I understand as much
I asked for DETAIL -- like TECHNICAL details
have you read the posts in this thread? - there is enough info already IMO, what more info could you possibly need?
There are very few such posts, if you search for and read v3g's and my own posts as well as those of other forumites, on the subject of E220 firmware versions, you will find that we collectively advise against loading any old firmware version obtained from wherever, I assume that there are relatively few bricking incidents bcos forumites listen to this advice - I hope.Surely this thing happens quite often
the EXASPERATED one
vodacom3g
Vodacom Representative
Searched for the latest version on the web and tried 11.117.09 - I'm thinking that it MAY have been a bad move.
What is the latest Vodacom endorsed firmware & software versions for the modem on XP please?
Oh yes...V3G, you're doing a sterling job, china!
Cheerio
Tx,
ginngs have managed to unbrick his once, maybe ask him.
MidnightWizard
Executive Member
Die klein-huisie is "brieked"
IC having a bad hair day today
The schematic and the source code
You know what they say -- "there's people born every minute that don't listen to "good" advice."
WHAT I would really like to know is WHAT IC is used to store the firmware. This should give some indication of it's performance characteristics and how a "brieked" item can be resurrected -- VIRTUALLY.
I am not an IC engineer -- BUT -- am sure that the manufacturer would have a special UTILITY that can do this. This is NOT rocket science. I NEED to talk to an ENGINEER ! -- In the worst case scenario the "FLASH" chip is removed and replaced -- soldered if surface mounted -- popped out if socketed.
YOUR ignorance is getting in the way of MY search for KNOWLEDGE.
go "ninja" some one else
the FRUSTRATED one
have you read the posts in this thread? - there is enough info already IMO, what more info could you possibly need?
IC having a bad hair day today
The schematic and the source code
You know what they say -- "there's people born every minute that don't listen to "good" advice."
WHAT I would really like to know is WHAT IC is used to store the firmware. This should give some indication of it's performance characteristics and how a "brieked" item can be resurrected -- VIRTUALLY.
I am not an IC engineer -- BUT -- am sure that the manufacturer would have a special UTILITY that can do this. This is NOT rocket science. I NEED to talk to an ENGINEER ! -- In the worst case scenario the "FLASH" chip is removed and replaced -- soldered if surface mounted -- popped out if socketed.
YOUR ignorance is getting in the way of MY search for KNOWLEDGE.
go "ninja" some one else
the FRUSTRATED one
If you want
It was only in your previous post that you decided to clarify that your request for "technical details" was actually a query about Integrated Circuits and a PCB schematic for the Huawei E220, please note that your request is misdirected - you should ask that question on the manufacturer's website, i.e. Huawei.com, while you're at it, ask if they have a default bootloader for recovering from bricking scenarios.
Thank you for your rather personal & insulting post, I will take this opportunity to point out that most of your posts are confusing to some extent and have an element of ambiguity included in them, in particular, your previous to last post did not clearly state what your request for "technical details" actually meant - any reasonable person would have interpreted your post as a request for in depth details on how to brick a modem...IC having a bad hair day today
The schematic and the source code
You know what they say -- "there's people born every minute that don't listen to "good" advice."
WHAT I would really like to know is WHAT IC is used to store the firmware. This should give some indication of it's performance characteristics and how a "brieked" item can be resurrected -- VIRTUALLY.
I am not an IC engineer -- BUT -- am sure that the manufacturer would have a special UTILITY that can do this. This is NOT rocket science. I NEED to talk to an ENGINEER ! -- In the worst case scenario the "FLASH" chip is removed and replaced -- soldered if surface mounted -- popped out if socketed.
YOUR ignorance is getting in the way of MY search for KNOWLEDGE.
go "ninja" some one else
the FRUSTRATED one
It was only in your previous post that you decided to clarify that your request for "technical details" was actually a query about Integrated Circuits and a PCB schematic for the Huawei E220, please note that your request is misdirected - you should ask that question on the manufacturer's website, i.e. Huawei.com, while you're at it, ask if they have a default bootloader for recovering from bricking scenarios.
Unsure what went wrong. Attempted to update the firmware, process started but error message popped up before completed. Modem has kicked the bucket. No light, no usb recognition. Taking it to Alberton Vodacare tomorrow. Pray for me.
IC having a bad hair day today
The schematic and the source code
You know what they say -- "there's people born every minute that don't listen to "good" advice."
WHAT I would really like to know is WHAT IC is used to store the firmware. This should give some indication of it's performance characteristics and how a "brieked" item can be resurrected -- VIRTUALLY.
I am not an IC engineer -- BUT -- am sure that the manufacturer would have a special UTILITY that can do this. This is NOT rocket science. I NEED to talk to an ENGINEER ! -- In the worst case scenario the "FLASH" chip is removed and replaced -- soldered if surface mounted -- popped out if socketed.
YOUR ignorance is getting in the way of MY search for KNOWLEDGE.
go "ninja" some one else
the FRUSTRATED one
From his original post, during his upgrade he probably blew his modem. Theres no way to 'UNBRIEK' it, becoz its completely dead. If there was still life in it, and the COM port that uses the Modem is detected, THEN its possible to 'UNBRIEK' it
Its a firmware upgrade that went horribly wrong. Thats as technical as it can get.
MidnightWizard
Executive Member
"brieked" up
Far as I know.......... /
Firstly -- LIGHTNING / ELECTRICITY -- MIGHT "blew" a modem NOT a firmware upgrade.
SECONDLY -- There ARE other ways to interface to the modem apart from the "COM" port. You MIGHT need special equipment to do it though. ( hint -- HOW does the BIOS talk to hardware devices )
Weeelll if that is the way YOU see it , and if YOU think that that is ALL there is to know -- fine BUT PLEASE do not think that ALL of us are going to be happy with such a dismissive attitude to an UNDERSTANDING of how things work.
As I mentioned previously -- I NEED to speak to an ENGINEER -- are there any here
MW
From his original post, during his upgrade he probably blew his modem. Theres no way to 'UNBRIEK' it, becoz its completely dead. If there was still life in it, and the COM port that uses the Modem is detected, THEN its possible to 'UNBRIEK' it
Far as I know.......... /
Firstly -- LIGHTNING / ELECTRICITY -- MIGHT "blew" a modem NOT a firmware upgrade.
SECONDLY -- There ARE other ways to interface to the modem apart from the "COM" port. You MIGHT need special equipment to do it though. ( hint -- HOW does the BIOS talk to hardware devices
)Weeelll if that is the way YOU see it , and if YOU think that that is ALL there is to know -- fine
BUT PLEASE do not think that ALL of us are going to be happy with such a dismissive attitude to an UNDERSTANDING of how things work.As I mentioned previously -- I NEED to speak to an ENGINEER -- are there any here
MW
MidnightWizard
Executive Member
Still "brieked" up
SORRY if you take it personally. I have noticed for awhile now that nearly ALL of your replies to posts of mine contain negative elements -- thus my jibe about being "ninja-ed" so SORRY again if you do not like me
I am not sure WHAT type of LOGIC would cause anyone to think that someone would want to know how to "briek" a modem. You do NOT need to know this -- it JUST HAPPENS
THANK you for that info. As I do NOT own a HUAWEI and as an "end-user" I would expect HUAWEI to direct me to VC -- suppliers of the device. These big corporates have VERY strange mating dances. VC would probably tell me what I am hearing here --ie. It is "brokin" -- It is "brieked" THROW IT AWAY & BUY A NEW ONE
I KNOW that that is NOT necessary. It CAN be fix-it
MC
SORRY if you take it personally. I have noticed for awhile now that nearly ALL of your replies to posts of mine contain negative elements -- thus my jibe about being "ninja-ed" so SORRY again if you do not like me
I am not sure WHAT type of LOGIC would cause anyone to think that someone would want to know how to "briek" a modem
. You do NOT need to know this -- it JUST HAPPENS THANK you for that info. As I do NOT own a HUAWEI and as an "end-user" I would expect HUAWEI to direct me to VC -- suppliers of the device. These big corporates have VERY strange mating dances. VC would probably tell me what I am hearing here --ie. It is "brokin" -- It is "brieked" THROW IT AWAY & BUY A NEW ONE
I KNOW that that is NOT necessary. It CAN be fix-it
MC
Considering that you do not own a Huawei, I am struggling to understand how you could be an end user of a Huawei - unless you're using a borrowed or rented Huawei, anyways, when you do find the answer to these pressing issues, please remember to share the info here with forumites that do have bricked Huaweis.THANK you for that info. As I do NOT own a HUAWEI and as an "end-user" I would expect HUAWEI to direct me to VC -- suppliers of the device. These big corporates have VERY strange mating dances. VC would probably tell me what I am hearing here --ie. It is "brokin" -- It is "brieked" THROW IT AWAY & BUY A NEW ONE
I KNOW that that is NOT necessary. It CAN be fix-it
MC
Firsty, AFAIK, your laptop/desktop is powered by 'ELECTRICITY', and your modem draws power from that 'ELECTRICITY'. So its very possible.
Secondly, during the firmware upgrade, your modem becomes quite hot. I know this because i do it almost everyday. So logically if your modem gets too HOT, some components MAY fry, and your modem will 'BRIEK'.
Thirdly, upon starting the firmware upgrade, theres a warning that states:
[size=+2]WARNING!! The following process will update your HAUWEI E220 HSDPA USB Modem and cannot be canceled. Terminating this program abnormally during the update procedure may cause damage to your HAUWEI E220 HSDPA USB Modem![/size]
And from his original post:
Thats what happened. The procedure some some or other reason terminated abnormally, and in the process totally breaking his modem.
So again, it is possible.
And...
No light = No Power. No USB recognition = No device being detected. How will this 'Special Utility' interface with it?
SECONDLY -- There ARE other ways to interface to the modem apart from the "COM" port. You MIGHT need special equipment to do it though. ( hint -- HOW does the BIOS talk to hardware devices
How does the BIOS talk to your computer hardware, IF your computer is completely dead?
Weeelll if that is the way YOU see it , and if YOU think that that is ALL there is to know -- fine
As I mentioned previously -- I NEED to speak to an ENGINEER -- are there any here
MW
Its not a dismissive attitude, its a fact. Goodluck with your endeavour to understand the inner workings of the Hauwei USB Modems, and how to 'Unbriek' them
I wouldn't go so far as to say "totally breaking", it's possible that all of the components still work, it's just that the incomplete firmware is preventing the modem from booting up.
The LED is not wired directly to the power, it is controlled by the CPU inside the modem, that's why it can flash and change colour.
Nokia have a USB device called FLS-5, only available to service centres, which is able to flash 'dead' phones. I guess it uses a flashing procedure different to the one end users get with the Nokia Software Updater.
As ic pointed out there is probably a recovery mode in which the phone or modem is still able to retrieve a firmware image and flash it.
True, but i've had a few customers who have attempted to do firmware upgrades themselves. Some of them were lucky enough that the modem was being detected(so i could still 'unbriek' it), while the rest completely messed up their device.
AFAIK, the initial flashes when plugging in the modem, indicate that it has power. And from my experience(like today) a guy came in to test his modem(becoz his laptop fell of the table and the modem fell with it).
When i plugged it in, the LED was NOT flashing to indicate power. While keeping in mind that the modem fell, and it may have damaged that LED, i left it in for about 10minutes. Still nothing.
Unless i have this type of device that will allow me to interface with a 'dead' modem, the only diagnoses i have for my customers is that their modem is broken and that they need to have it booked in by Vodacare so that it can be swopped out.
P.S. I've seen something similar with the Slipstream where it picks up the device, but just as a Mass Storage Device.
Unbricking instructions to follow, I've only had to do this once and was a little panicked at the time (wasn't my modem) so these may not be perfect and might include unnecessary steps.
Download the plain drivers without dashboard here and unzip them.
Unplug the modem from the computer and remove the SIM card. I remember reading that QualComm have some diagnostics modes that are only available before the SIM is detected, so I figured by not having the SIM card in might make these modes available.
Make sure autorun is disabled and restart your computer. Make sure you have no dashboard or other software (anything Vodafone or Nokia, for a start) running that might interfere with your COM ports running, check Task Manager and kill any stubborn ones.
Plug in the modem, hopefully you'll hear the sound of a device being detected. Check in Device Manager for your modem ports, if you don't see them, but do see a Mass Storage Device, follow the steps here and point it at the drivers previously download if required.
As iam3g pointed out, no usb device, no talky-talky, so you have to get the COM port detected before you'll be able to run the firmware update program again.
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