E220 Vista Updates

agent5

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Vista 64-bit Issues

Hi - Im also pulling teeth with my
Huawei E220 and E620. I've tried all recomendations, drivers and everything. To no avail. :mad: :confused:

Vista recognizes both the devices, and I can see all the interfaces in my device manager. I just don't have the 64 bit drivers to load. I checked all the websited, MTN, Vodacom, Vodafone and Huawei. No one's got the 64 bit drivers. The folders contain a 64-bit Vista driver folder, but its empty.

I think the excuse that the devices were launched before Vista is not acceptable. Longhorn Beta's has been around for ages. Vista Beta's and RC's have been around for ages. Did they not test the software on them? Could they not inform all the vendors that they will be wasting R360+ a month if they have vista? But now, I'm wasting the R15000(PC) + R360p/m(3G). This will become serious issue, as more and more people are buying preloaded Vista PCs and Laptops!!!

News on the drivers will be SERIOUSLY appreciated!
 

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This will become serious issue, as more and more people are buying preloaded Vista PCs and Laptops!!!
You do realize that there are 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Vista?
The preloaded Vista PCs and laptops will more than likely have the 32-bit version installed, for which there are E220 and E620 drivers.
 

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Yes, I do. But did you know that a 64-bit OS ships with a 64-bit platform?

So every 64-bit system out there, shipping with Vista, will have a 64-bit version of Vista. Otherwise whoever might as well have taken the old 32-bit system... (System being PC)

I haven't even seen a driver for the 64-bit version of XP for any of these devices... And that OS has been out for atleast 2 or so years. Since the release of amd's Athlon64 and A64Dual Core CPUs and a lot of people have those. Why can't I get a 64-bit OS and a 64-bit CPU? Because my internet service provider's hardware does not support this? The market standard is gradually moving towards Vista, and everybody will eventually move to Vista like XP. Then what? Will everybody have to downgrade from 64bit Vista to 32?

The Beta for MS-V 640bit has been available for the entire 2006. I know, because I tested our software on both the x86 versions, 64 and 32 bit, and we are now Vista compatible. Not Vista 32-bit. Vista, meaning all releases.

Why can they (Huawei) not do the same? Or atleast but beta drivers out? Or warn the 3g market? But its the same with the PCMCIA and Xpress card saga. Eventually, Vodacom and MTN will have 1000s of angry customers. Because nobody made any room for "future" technologies or planned that the industry might undergo a paradigm shift...
 

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Yes, I do. But did you know that a 64-bit OS ships with a 64-bit platform?
No, it's normally a special request. 64-bit drivers are a problem for many peripherals; printers, scanners, etc. Right now the 64-bit OS is only really for specialized applications (where you need more than 4GB of RAM). It's not ready for the mainstream yet.
 

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Well, if I knew I would run into this, I would certainly have gone 32-bit from the start. However, Vista does not come cheap! :sick:

So what I've done now, :cool: is I used my old Piii laptop, installed 98, w-lan and set up a proxy on the 98, and atleast I can now access the internet om my Vista box. Big mission, and a struggle to get this sorted. But I think its better than a 3 months waiting period for drivers...

:rolleyes:
 
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When can we expect to see something?

I might be mistaken but, the hardware abstraction layer in 32 and 64 is the same, and it should be as simple as sourcing the code and compiling the driver on a 64 bit system. If nothing seriously goes wrong, it should be two ticks...

I wondered if we could get hold of WinXP64 drivers, and tried them? Reason i'm asking is I tried to use the XP32 drivers, and Vista64 complained that the drivers I tried to use, was not for a 64-Bit System. Maybe is there were WinXP64 drivers somewhere that could work? (Slap me if I'm stupid!:D )
 

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Well, if I knew I would run into this, I would certainly have gone 32-bit from the start.
Microsoft used to have a policy where if you bought a new version of their software you were entitled to use any of the older versions. For example if a company standardized on Windows 2000, but their new computers were coming with Windows XP, they were allowed to remove XP and install 2000.
I'm not sure if they still have that policy and whether it applies to using the 32-bit version instead of the 64-bit version, but it might be worth looking into.
When can we expect to see something?
I don't know what Huawei's plans are, but it will depend on whether they think there are enough people using the 64-bit operating systems to justify developing drivers. So it might be never.
I might be mistaken but, the hardware abstraction layer in 32 and 64 is the same, and it should be as simple as sourcing the code and compiling the driver on a 64 bit system.
In theory it is simple, but in practice it's never simple. For exmaple, the Huawei drivers might rely on a library from Qualcomm, in which case Huawei can't do anything until Qualcomm develop a 64-bit version of their library.
 

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Microsoft used to have a policy where if you bought a new version of their software you were entitled to use any of the older versions. For example if a company standardized on Windows 2000, but their new computers were coming with Windows XP, they were allowed to remove XP and install 2000.
I'm not sure if they still have that policy and whether it applies to using the 32-bit version instead of the 64-bit version, but it might be worth looking into.

I don't know what Huawei's plans are, but it will depend on whether they think there are enough people using the 64-bit operating systems to justify developing drivers. So it might be never.

In theory it is simple, but in practice it's never simple. For exmaple, the Huawei drivers might rely on a library from Qualcomm, in which case Huawei can't do anything until Qualcomm develop a 64-bit version of their library.

Thanks for that Ginggs
 

jwilkens

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I contacted Huawei en below is thier reply....

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Dear Customer:

Thanks for your attention to our product!

The wireless modem E220 can not use in Windows Vista OS yet. It will be promulgated few months latter.

Best Regards

======== 2007-04-18 14:59:00 您在来信中写道: ========

It looks like it might happen, but still no certain answer on when....
 

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I contacted Huawei en below is thier reply....

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Dear Customer:

Thanks for your attention to our product!

The wireless modem E220 can not use in Windows Vista OS yet. It will be promulgated few months latter.

Best Regards

======== 2007-04-18 14:59:00 您在来信中写道: ========

It looks like it might happen, but still no certain answer on when....

But we've got it working with the Beta disks at least I do

MTNDD
 

jwilkens

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Jip, I updated my firmware and the E220 works like a dream on XP and Vista 32 bit.

On Vista x64 it does not recognise the drivers for the data interface.

I also thought of going back to Vista 32bit, but I have seen a definate increase in CPU performance (+10%), using both the Passmark performance test and SiSoftware.
 

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E220 Vista, internet connection error...

I have updated the firmware and the Software on an XP machine but my the software says that the data card is invalid.

The emulated CD-Rom drive is seen and I can browse it in Vista, but as soon as the dashboard is loaded I get the above mentioned error...

Everyone said that they loaded the software and everything worked fine except for mine! Can anyone maybe try and help in some way?

I did update the firmware before the software...

Vista picks up my usb device as modem after I installed new firmware and dashboard from huawei's site. (Thanks to all the pple in this forum!!!):D :D

But when the dashboard pops up, and I try to connect, it immidiately gives me an error message to either check my network connections settings or wireless device settings...:mad: Maybe I missed something?:confused:

Anyone able to assist? Will be GREATLY appreciated!!:) :)
 
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Microsoft used to have a policy where if you bought a new version of their software you were entitled to use any of the older versions. For example if a company standardized on Windows 2000, but their new computers were coming with Windows XP, they were allowed to remove XP and install 2000.
They still do, if your PC came with Vista Business or Vista Ultimate you are allowed to install XP Professional (including Tablet PC Edition and x64 edition) instead. There are no downgrade rights granted for Vista Home Basic or Home Premium. The procedure is get hold of an XP Professional CD, install with any key you like, when the activation fails you phone in and give the operator your Vista key and they'll generate an XP key for you. More here.

Regarding the 64/32-bits issue, all retail versions come with the 32-bit version only but include a coupon for the 64-bit version, except Vista Ultimate which includes both versions. With the OEM (pre-installed) version, you select 32-bit or 64-bit at the time of purchase, you cannot up/downgrade between them.
 

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E2220 stuck on EDGE

Hi,

I have a E220 modem that initially was working fine with the 32K Sim cards, with the 32K I was getting just over 1M download speeds, however after I brought a 64K sim card the modem would not connect via the new sim to anything, GPRS/EDGE/3G or HSDPA. I then called MTN 1555 and they suggested I download the latest drivers from their website which I did and yes the new software works fine, however I can now only connect to EDGE, and only if I have select 3G preferred, if I select 3G only it does nothing, if I reselect 3G preferred then I see all three Networks but only for GPRS/EDGE, is there a setting somewhere on the software that I can change to allow me to connected to HSDPA
 

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@Jabba: There is an issue using the E220 and a 64K MTN SIM if you don't have the MTN firmware on your E220, see this thread for more info. Try downloading the E220 firmware upgrade from the links at the start of the current thread.
 

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Just some feedback from Huawei

For Vista x64, we are researching the driver in our HQ. Huawei can provide the software for test in May. When we get it, we will send the software to MTN ASAP.

MTNDD
 

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HELP Please!

I have updated my E220 firmware and installed the "dashboard" on my XP PC (I do not have Vista). However, the MTN dashboard just says "invalid data card" and then does nothing.

The Huawei Mobile Connect software still works (fortunately), so I can post this query!

What so I do now?

Thanks
 
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