Engine Knock after 2 weeks. (CPA)

cyberghost47 said:
Yes, I'm considering getting forged internals because this is a common issue with these cars.

Edit: it's just WRX not STI
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yes thats the way to go.My 2005 sti "blew up" and put forged pistons , rods etc.Obviously i didnt go to the stealership but a good indie workshop sorted it out for me.

My 03 wrx also had a engine rebuild and with some forged internals put in.
 
ubercal said:
yes thats the way to go.My 2005 sti "blew up" and put forged pistons , rods etc.Obviously i didnt go to the stealership but a good indie workshop sorted it out for me.

My 03 wrx also had a engine rebuild and with some forged internals put in.
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Who did you take yours to and where did you source the forged parts from? I'm based in PE so we don't have many mechanics willing to work on EJ255's.
 
Subarus are really good cars and like most turbo cars they need proper oil and drive only on 95 octane.
Issues if bad mapping hurts the motor.
Forged pistons is a good idea. But before you rebuilt try find why it started knocking or you will blow your new motor again.
rod knock can be bad oil, to little oil, bad mapping, pre igniton (det). low oil pressure etc.
 
qscwbt said:
Subarus are really good cars and like most turbo cars they need proper oil and drive only on 95 octane.
Issues if bad mapping hurts the motor.
Forged pistons is a good idea. But before you rebuilt try find why it started knocking or you will blow your new motor again.
rod knock can be bad oil, to little oil, bad mapping, pre igniton (det). low oil pressure etc.
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Got it at Subaru atm, the mechanic there says it's most likely oil pump valve that got stagnant and didn't release enough oil. I'm sure they'll fix it up so the cause is eliminated.

They quoted me on rebuild too but now dealership wants me to get more quotes before making a call...
 
qscwbt said:
Subarus are really good cars and like most turbo cars they need proper oil and drive only on 95 octane.
Issues if bad mapping hurts the motor.
Forged pistons is a good idea. But before you rebuilt try find why it started knocking or you will blow your new motor again.
rod knock can be bad oil, to little oil, bad mapping, pre igniton (det). low oil pressure etc.
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Spot on, as per the OP, it was worn rings and a long trip --> crankcase pressure --> oil gone --> big end bearings melted
 
Update:

I have gotten 2 quotes and 2 reference letters from RMI certified mechs and the dealership is refusing to pay more than R15k for repairs and they are also refusing to cancel the deal.

Not sure what the best course of action is now.
 
cyberghost47 said:
Update:

I have gotten 2 quotes and 2 reference letters from RMI certified mechs and the dealership is refusing to pay more than R15k for repairs and they are also refusing to cancel the deal.

Not sure what the best course of action is now.
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Get into car
Put seat belt on
Go down a lekker steep hill
Crash into tree

Insurance :thumbsup:
 
cyberghost47 said:
Update:

I have gotten 2 quotes and 2 reference letters from RMI certified mechs and the dealership is refusing to pay more than R15k for repairs and they are also refusing to cancel the deal.

Not sure what the best course of action is now.
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Not much you can do I guess as you bought it cash :(

I bought accident damaged car a while back, but it was financed so I got wesbank envolved then the dealership changed there tune.
 
Gtx Gaming said:
Not much you can do I guess as you bought it cash :(

I bought accident damaged car a while back, but it was financed so I got wesbank envolved then the dealership changed there tune.
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CPA does not discriminate between cash and financed deals.
 
cyberghost47 said:
Update:

I have gotten 2 quotes and 2 reference letters from RMI certified mechs and the dealership is refusing to pay more than R15k for repairs and they are also refusing to cancel the deal.

Not sure what the best course of action is now.
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Refer my post#37. You're in a difficult position.

You can try the Ombudsman, but if they reject your claim then the dealer will probably withdraw their offer as well.
 
riscbroker said:
Refer my post#37. You're in a difficult position.

You can try the Ombudsman, but if they reject your claim then the dealer will probably withdraw their offer as well
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Have you delt with such claims before? I don't understand how a car that breaks after 2 weeks is not covered under the implied warranty enforced by the CPA. How could such a claim possibly be rejected, on what grounds?
 
Consider the problem from the dealer's perspective and you'll start understanding how the CPA is applied when it comes to motor vehicles. I've dealt with claims from both sides of the fence so I have some experience of how the process works and how the CPA is applied.

Basically, if you force the dealer's hand, he could (not saying he would) easily claim that in the two weeks you had the car, you drove the car hard/went racing at Killarney/ forgot that the car had more than one forward gear etc etc, failed to check the oil level and suffered the consequences. I imagine you would be hard pressed to prove otherwise.

What do the RMI mechanics say? Are they making mention of latent or patent defects? Did you acknowledge any specific faults on the vehicle when you signed the offer to purchase?
 
riscbroker said:
Consider the problem from the dealer's perspective and you'll start understanding how the CPA is applied when it comes to motor vehicles. I've dealt with claims from both sides of the fence so I have some experience of how the process works and how the CPA is applied.

Basically, if you force the dealer's hand, he could (not saying he would) easily claim that in the two weeks you had the car, you drove the car hard/went racing at Killarney/ forgot that the car had more than one forward gear etc etc, failed to check the oil level and suffered the consequences. I imagine you would be hard pressed to prove otherwise.

What do the RMI mechanics say? Are they making mention of latent or patent defects? Did you acknowledge any specific faults on the vehicle when you signed the offer to purchase?
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Whould the dealer not also need to prove all those things?

They have not made mention of any latent patent defects. And no I did not acknowledge any specific faults.
 
Let's see the quotes/reference letters, you can blur out any personal details.
 
cyberghost47 said:
Whould the dealer not also need to prove all those things?

They have not made mention of any latent patent defects. And no I did not acknowledge any specific faults.
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Have you read through all the documents you got when you purchased the car? Any mention of auction?
 
riscbroker said:
Let's see the quotes/reference letters, you can blur out any personal details.
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I decided in the spirit of good faith and not wanting to go the legal route to find a compromise and offer to pay R20k towards the repair costs.

From my personal research and comments of others this is an issue that happens with these cars and it's of such a nature that none of the parties involved could determine when and how it would arise. So to some extent I think it's fair that all parties involved should carry some of the risk.

I have spoken to the dealer principal and he seems happy with my contribution of R20k. So I think that will be the best course of action.

The quote from Subaru came to a total amount of R52k and as such the dealership is till carrying the brunt of the burden.

Thank you so much for taking the time for sharing your perspective and experience, it really has helped in allowing me to come to this conclusion.
 
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