ETHERZERO FORK - ETZ

[sputnika]

Despite a very well paid for FUD campaign leveraging the SEO of Reddit, Github & Medium, ETZ - EtherZero is still set for release.

It also apparently only takes 1 user with a false claim to get you incorrectly listed on MM for phishing...

From the developers today

Forking details:

Fork height: 4936270 block
Time: Jan 19th 2018 GMT 19:00-21:00
Total suppy: 194million=97million for hard fork+97million for reservation
The 97million for hard fork
Pre-sale 20million: 1ETH= 3300 ETZ, will be locked for 4 terms, unlock 20% every 20 days
Reserved: 77million
Total supply 194million/ 11700=1.65, so the presale changed from 1:200/133 to 1:3300, which would provide larger possible profit for our early investors.
Those who already invested EtherZero would get the same ratio as now, that is 1ETH= 3300 ETZ.


EtherZero was been imitated, and set up by those evil scammers since it starts gaining momentum. However, we gain the trust of our supporters and Justice will definitely defeat the evil, we will move on.

Since the forking is about to start very soon, EtherZero team sincerely ask if those famous trade platforms are willing to take a snapshot of EtherZero, and we sincerely invite our EtherZero fans to retweet our hope and @those platforms. The success of EtherZero need the support of all of you. If you believe and support us, push us a little bit to make us reach the top!

LINKAGE:

https://etherzero.org/
Telegram channel: https://t.me/etherzero_org

https://coincodex.com/article/1192/etherzero-a-new-ethereum-hard-fork/
https://news.bitcoin.com/pr-etherzero-a-revolutionary-ethereum-hard-fork-forking-on-19th-jan-2018/

I got 33 ETH chilling waiting for this for so super excited

I doubt LUNO will support it :/

Since I do develop DAPPs on the ETH blockchain I know this is really needed. Even if just for me to be able to develop and offer blockchain DAPPS cheaply.

 

[John Tempus]

Nothing to see here, BS fork.

Just go to https://etherzero.org/#Features and read the amazing command of the english language. Any serious international project will atleast spend some time to properly use english sentences on their website.

And I quote: "Instant Payments, is suitable for more trade scene"

Another fork, another pump.

 

[sputnika]

Nothing to see here, BS fork.

Just go to https://etherzero.org/#Features and read the amazing command of the english language. Any serious international project will atleast spend some time to properly use english sentences on their website.

And I quote: "Instant Payments, is suitable for more trade scene"

Another fork, another pump.

Ignore this advice. Its based on opinion rather than understanding the tech.

Theyre a team of engineers, not slick salesmen trying to sell snake oil. The fact that there is so much focused FUD and intentional attempts to remove them have me more excited. Their enemies are powerful. Disrupting the disruptors.

Your next attack is to complain you dont know who the developers are. Do you own BTC?

This is a technical fork, as I mentioned, I need to develop on this type of blockchain and ETH is too expensive for me to run the dapps i want to. If you want to develop apps on the blockchain then this will excite you. If you dont understand the blockchain then this looks like a stupid fork.

 

[John Tempus]

Ignore this advice. Theyre a team of engineers, not slick salesmen trying to sell snake oil. The fact that there is so much focused FUD and intentional attempts to remove them have me more excited. Their enemies are powerful. Disrupting the disruptors.

Your next attack is to complain you dont know who the developers are. Do you own BTC?

I hold many different altcoins for various durations but my gripe with bs forks like ETZ is that it tries to come out of the gate as if it is the holy grail. No its not, its a FAD and just a new free airdrop fork like so many before it. It will have some initial hype and simmer down as soon as the next fork with amazing stardust glitter shows up.

Its not an attack at all, I wont waste my ammo on something this obviously rediculous. It is a WARNING to not dump actual usable coins for yet another new fairdust forked coin because some snakeoil salesmen like yourself posted about it. Yes I see you tried to use snakeoil salesmen to defend your case about their lack of a proper website which made me chuckle quite a bit.

PS. epic official ETZ launch video on their website. lmao! what a crock of sheet.

 

[sputnika]

I hold many different altcoins for various durations but my gripe with bs forks like ETZ is that it tries to come out of the gate as if it is the holy grail. No its not, its a FAD and just a new free airdrop fork like so many before it. It will have some initial hype and simmer down as soon as the next fork with amazing stardust glitter shows up.

Its not an attack at all, I wont waste my ammo on something this obviously rediculous. It is a WARNING to not dump actual usable coins for yet another new fairdust forked coin because some snakeoil salesmen like yourself posted about it. Yes I see you tried to use snakeoil salesmen to defend your case about their lack of a proper website which made me chuckle quite a bit.

PS. epic official ETZ launch video on their website. lmao! what a crock of sheet.

You are buying coins because you speculate. I support this coin because it works. You are in for short term profit, I want long term progress. We want this type of coin for different reasons.

 

[John Tempus]

You are buying coins because you speculate. I support this coin because it works. You are in for short term profit, I want long term progress. We want this type of coin for different reasons.

Im in VERY long term on many of my coin selections since 2012 very first LTC and NMC fork. No you want this coin to succeed the launch in order for ETH price to pump up beforehand so that your 10:1 ETZ could be dumped if it hits the exchange quickly enough at a good enough price.

Nothing about the ETZ project suggest it would be any different than many other forks long term aside from some fancy attempt at unicorn words being used.

This comment made absolutely zero sense, ".. I support this coin because it works." , oh really it works before it even forked ? WOW id love to see that research into how well it is already working as you seem to claim right there. Coolaid must be on discount this week.

 

[sputnika]

Im in VERY long term on many of my coin selections since 2012 very first LTC and NMC fork. No you want this coin to succeed the launch in order for ETH price to pump up beforehand so that your 10:1 ETZ could be dumped if it hits the exchange quickly enough at a good enough price.

Nothing about the ETZ project suggest it would be any different than many other forks long term aside from some fancy attempt at unicorn words being used.

This comment made absolutely zero sense, ".. I support this coin because it works." , oh really it works before it even forked ? WOW id love to see that research into how well it is already working as you seem to claim right there. Coolaid must be on discount this week.

Blockchain is more than money. Its a lot lot lot more than that. Been working on an asset management system and right now with the cost of eth transactions its too expensive to feasible or to do what I want. This solves those problems. That what I mean by it works. I have asked to be a masternode for this as well. Fun project, the fact that its drawing the aggro it is .... is awesome. Means people are scared. So for the non-crypto coin application of the blockchain I need to develop on, this works. It solves my cost problem and is a good idea

I was going to dev on ADA, but Im too stupid to dev on their platform yet, and its not complete enough to create on.

 

[John Tempus]

ETZ is drawing the same LULZ as many other forks. Enjoy the free coin drop you will receive for the ETH you are holding, lets come back here in a few months once the project moves onto the next amazing super new high tech fork that solves all the world problems and more.

PS. ETZ doesn't solve any problem related to your high transaction fees since if little to no one end up using ETZ then low or no fees is absolutely meaningless.

 

[sputnika]

ETZ is drawing the same LULZ as many other forks. Enjoy the free coin drop you will receive for the ETH you are holding, lets come back here in a few months once the project moves onto the next amazing super new high tech fork that solves all the world problems and more.

My ETH is ok, I did not have a lot until the drop yesterday Got 30+ waiting so I can start a masternode with ETZ

PS. ETZ doesn't solve any problem related to your high transaction fees since if little to no one end up using ETZ then low or no fees is absolutely meaningless.

You know nothing jon snow. You can only see money money money money money

 

[John Tempus]

My ETH is ok, I did not have a lot until the drop yesterday Got 30+ waiting so I can start a masternode with ETZ


You know nothing jon snow. You can only see money money money money money

lol @ jon snow.

Stop fooling yourself by pretending you dont see money money money. Robinhood men in tights do not need a sequel.

 

[sputnika]

lol @ jon snow.

Stop fooling yourself by pretending you dont see money money money. Robinhood men in tights do not need a sequel.

I made a coin (well a cruddy ec20 token) already, it was stupid and pointless. What I am building now has more point and purpose than money (to me). I do not think you understand why the blockchain is teh awesome yet.

 

[acidrain]

Metamask flagging the site for phishing.

 

[John Tempus]

I made a coin (well a cruddy ec20 token) already, it was stupid and pointless. What I am building now has more point and purpose than money (to me). I do not think you understand why the blockchain is teh awesome yet.

"The blockchain is teh awesome" because it is meant as spectrum of moving from traditional finance. Every single product on "teh blockchain" is derived from producing something of value. We are not talking about "grand children" type of value but monetary value.

Of course there will be some kittycat games but even that is based on some form of financial gain attached to it.

You seem to have missed the whole premise of the blockchain.

 

[sputnika]

Metamask flagging the site for phishing.

Yup, caused by 1 user who claimed there was no whitepaper. Even though the whitepaper was on their website. This is manipulated. Also, most of the dev team is in China, so their english sucks and they dont do Facebook. Someone really doesnt want this fork to happen. Im honestly seeing straight out lies. to try shut them down. Someone is concerned, sure theyre not a slick corporate setup with great PR and marketing, but seldom are a small group of engineers ever such.

"The blockchain is teh awesome" because it is meant as spectrum of moving from traditional finance. Every single product on "teh blockchain" is derived from producing something of value. We are not talking about "grand children" type of value but monetary value.

Of course there will be some kittycat games but even that is based on some form of financial gain attached to it.

You seem to have missed the whole premise of the blockchain.

No. You are not getting the blockchain and its power. What is the most important thing that the blockchain produces? Why is there value (beyond Pow coins), why not any other ledger database? Why the blockchain? What does it do that a normal database couldnt? For me, cool the money is awesome, but not the power. Its power gives value to the money, but what is its biggest sell that no other database setup can do?

 

[sputnika]

Since I feel my question will be rhetorical, what does the blockchain give us that other databases cant? Its so powerful not even a government or a banking system can beat it?

Trust.

That simple. You buy trust. You know that people cant fake tokens on the blockchain. You know someone cant fake hash some btc. Why? because of the millions of hashes per minute adding to the blockchain and once its set. its set.

Now think beyond money. What else needs that trust?

Property ownership?
Company registrations?
IDs?
Asset registration?

With the blockchain, I can take my wealth, buy some XMR, sell that, buy some XVG, rinse and repeat that several times.

Can someone take away your coins now? or even find them? How about taxing them?

When people work out this is just... better, the rate of blockchain adoption will increase, There will be less taxes, banks and governments will start reducing services until theyre near insignificant. As they lose the ability to tax, so will their power and ability to moderate the corporates. We are heading into a time period of civilization that is a libertarians wet dream. Warlords and their armies.

Now, lets assume that the blockchain wins, states no longer pay the guys with guns (also known as armies), systems start breaking down. Who will do the birth registrations? In a world of city states ...will nationality really matter? where do you get your identity? What institutions do you trust not to defraud you?

What if you build governance on that blockchain? We know almost all humans are corrupt. What if we build governance around that weakness? Something were fraud can not exist? What if we register our identities, companies, births, deaths, etc on the blockchain also? We are heading into a world with no trust, except that which is produced by the blockchain.

To me, this is scary, exciting and opportunity. Cryptocurrency is cool. CryptoID`s are cooler for me. A method of voting so there is no corruption is cooler. So much that can be built on trust. If you know its power.

This is also why I need ETZ while I wait for ADA to do their thing. I made some ID`s on the system, but each one costs me a fortune The transaction fees are too high.

Im really not punting ETZ from any value the coin may get. I want this to happen because I need the tech so I can continue my work.

 

[John Tempus]

Yup, caused by 1 user who claimed there was no whitepaper. Even though the whitepaper was on their website. This is manipulated. Also, most of the dev team is in China, so their english sucks and they dont do Facebook. Someone really doesnt want this fork to happen. Im honestly seeing straight out lies. to try shut them down. Someone is concerned, sure theyre not a slick corporate setup with great PR and marketing, but seldom are a small group of engineers ever such.



No. You are not getting the blockchain and its power. What is the most important thing that the blockchain produces? Why is there value (beyond Pow coins), why not any other ledger database? Why the blockchain? What does it do that a normal database couldnt? For me, cool the money is awesome, but not the power. Its power gives value to the money, but what is its biggest sell that no other database setup can do?

I will sum it all up, the main value behind the blockchain is decentralised verification and that is the origin of it. That is all there is to it and the core value of it. Any other long winded questions ?

 

[saor]

Why is there value (beyond Pow coins), why not any other ledger database? Why the blockchain? What does it do that a normal database couldnt?

Author is maybe overly optimistic, but worth a quick read nonetheless: https://hackernoon.com/why-everyone-missed-the-most-important-invention-in-the-last-500-years-c90b0151c169

To quote some relevant bits:

It was called Bitcoin.

It was the first working example of triple-entry accounting.....

Triple-entry accounting and by extension blockchains and crypto are a way of agreeing on objective reality. It’s not the objective reality. That’s a philosophical black hole we’ll ignore for now, but it’s an objective reality. It’s two parties agreeing on a version of past events. The third entry in the system, entered into the blockchain, is both a receipt and a transaction. It’s proof that something happened between two parties, which goes beyond the receipts that each party holds in double entry.

 

[sputnika]

Author is maybe overly optimistic, but worth a quick read nonetheless: https://hackernoon.com/why-everyone-missed-the-most-important-invention-in-the-last-500-years-c90b0151c169

To quote some relevant bits:

Okay, so thats the name, thank you. I think that author is on the ball. And is writing in layered methods

"Your parents before you did the same thing and theirs before them and theirs before them in an endless cycle down through the years.

Accounting broke that cycle."

Hmm. Ty for the share saor

EDIT: The author of that article is incredible in his understanding of the concept here.

 

[sputnika]

John Tempus: I might owe you an apology. Either I have the worlds most sophisticated FUD spearphishing me or Im wrong. Im more likely wrong. I have new inside information that makes me concerned, so while I need this to be a real thing you may well be right. Ive removed my support for it in reservation and will wait to see whats happening.

Lets hope Casper gets released soon.