Eugene Terre'blanche murdered

[DigitalSoldier]

The minor's lawyer, Zola Majavu, said his client wanted this message conveyed to the public: "Please, please do not hurt my family." Majavu also rubbished allegations that his client had confessed to the police, adding that he had not handed himself over.

a bit rich from someone who killed somebody else's family.

 

[Gawain]

Hulle het ook sy broek af getrek ***ken hierdie was a rasse moord en het niks met looning te doen nie mense is kwaad en dit sal nie baie vat nie om wraak te neem nie

***ken barbare en ek sien die betoogers is lekker windgat met die polisie om hulle

 

[news24]

Without putting on a tinfoil hat...is it only me that finds it strange that these two murdered him and then marched off to the police to tell them what they did?

Were they perhaps expecting a champagne reception organised by Mr Malema?

They were probably expecting a hero's welcome coupled with immediate Presidential pardon and thought that they would have everybody's sympathy.

 

[marine1]

And Nandos

 

[STS]

Kill your boss over a pay dispute? I think not.
Then you certainly not going to be paid.

You also going to be out of a job & minus the pay you owed.
How stupid can anyone be?

And hang around for how long on a farm to be caught by the cops, or call and hand yourself in?

No frikkin way!

and this is where racists have shot themselves in the foot. they turn everything into a conspiracy, from farm murders to uhuru to black people being a creation of satan to ET not reeeeally having an affair to the world ending when Zuma takes over, etc etc blah blah. everything is a conspiracy to nutjobs, so even if this whole thing does smell fishy they've cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. if someone with brains investigates this and has no hidden motive then i'll listen.

there are plenty of people who fantasise about sticking it to their boss, so why are we questioning this now? because he is a political figure? and who cares if he changed and softened up to black people, he was still head of the AWB. that is like not being racist but still leading the KKK

 

[Mila]

And Nandos

I loled!!

 

[warchylde]

Without putting on a tinfoil hat...is it only me that finds it strange that these two murdered him and then marched off to the police to tell them what they did?

Were they perhaps expecting a champagne reception organised by Mr Malema?

Well it is rather simple really. They knew that they wouldn't really be touched. They will go to jail but they will be heroes there. No one will touch them. They will then after two years or so receive a presidential pardon. All planned and running smoothly.

 

[warchylde]

and this is where racists have shot themselves in the foot. they turn everything into a conspiracy, from farm murders to uhuru to black people being a creation of satan to ET not reeeeally having an affair to the world ending when Zuma takes over, etc etc blah blah. everything is a conspiracy to nutjobs, so even if this whole thing does smell fishy they've cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. if someone with brains investigates this and has no hidden motive then i'll listen.

there are plenty of people who fantasise about sticking it to their boss, so why are we questioning this now? because he is a political figure? and who cares if he changed and softened up to black people, he was still head of the AWB. that is like not being racist but still leading the KKK

Love the ignorance buddy - you go right ahead and smoke that wacky tabaccy.

Of ALL the farm murders that have occurred how many killers have been caught. I will tell you. 0 - yep that's right 0 and now you say people have conspiracy theories. Humans and human nature is predictable.

Let history be your guide and mentor. Go look at what happened before the war in Rwanda and what happened in Serbia. Even in Germany before the second world war. Same tactics different country.....

*sigh* you can educate some but the rest are hopeless......

 

[STS]

Love the ignorance buddy - you go right ahead and smoke that wacky tabaccy.

Of ALL the farm murders that have occurred how many killers have been caught. I will tell you. 0 - yep that's right 0 and now you say people have conspiracy theories. Humans and human nature is predictable.

Let history be your guide and mentor. Go look at what happened before the war in Rwanda and what happened in Serbia. Even in Germany before the second world war. Same tactics different country.....

*sigh* you can educate some but the rest are hopeless......

right, now that you're finish belittling me let's talk again

none have been caught? i'm sorry, i've read stories where farm murderers have been caught, and by black policemen too. i hope you can forgive me for not quoting sources now because i'm not a fanatic when it comes to genocide and conspiracy theories, but even if it weren't i can't believe people can get away with 3000 murders and not prosecute one person out of all of those. then there is this.

http://www.issafrica.org/CJM/farmrep/index.htm

read through it at your leisure. it was done awhile back but of course you'll notice that even black people that owned farms were targeted by criminals. is it only genocide if the person lives on a farm? i'm glad we have so many factors to narrow it down for us.

of course some crimes are pretty gruesome and there are no signs of theft, but the exact same thing occurs in america. perhaps not as frequently or under the same circumstances, but people sometimes murder other people gruesomely. you don't need a conspiracy for evil people.

edit here: i also want to know, what is it when a black person murders another black person for reasons besides theft and self-defense? is it genocide too? i've seen some terrible crime-scene photos of black victims. how do you think families of these victims who have been brutally murdered feel? do they need to create a conspiracy to make themselves feel justified too? /end of edit

yes, history does show it happening. i like this quote:

In the process, the extremists are painted as the real representatives of the majority and the only choice available. The breaking point happens when the normal, law-abiding citizen, who'd rather be raising a family in peace and prosperity, is faced with no choice but joining one side in the conflict. The polarisation of the country is almost immediate: It sometimes happens literally overnight.

that is happening now. luckily our country is very, very, very far away from that happening. most people don't just look to the media and have common sense. not everything is racial or a conspiracy theory. people are complicated and now we want to narrow them down into boxes to justify our fears. now, get your nose out of history books and get to know people.

 

[LancelotSA]

Of ALL the farm murders that have occurred how many killers have been caught. I will tell you. 0 - yep that's right 0 and now you say people have conspiracy theories. Humans and human nature is predictable.

...and you guys can't understand why we often take what you say as a joke? Things like this are often said and we are just meant to believe it. It seemed rather far fetched to me so I did a Google search and found this :

It is impossible to evaluate the protection that the farming community receive from the criminal justice system without looking at the efficacy of the criminal justice system as a whole. South Africa’s criminal justice system is not performing optimally. Overall fewer than half of all recorded crimes are detected, and on average fewer than one out of ten cases recorded by the police result in the conviction of the perpetrators. In respect of serious farm attack cases, however, the detection rate appears to be higher.

From the limited available evidence it would appear that the proportion of recorded farm attack cases resulting in a conviction is higher than the national average for all serious crimes. In a survey undertaken by the police’s Crime Information Analysis Centre (CIAC) of farm attack cases that occurred in the Eastern Cape during 1999 and 2000, it was established that almost 43% resulted in a conviction.

Now, of course, I do not doubt that your come back will be something along the lines of "I didn't literally mean zero" or "How can we believe an SAPS report".... The point, however, is that you were adamant that none have been caught. Zero, zilch, niks. And this is what always makes your (in the plural sense) arguments laughable.

So what was that about a conspiracy theory again?!?!

Laughable, really laughable!

 

[genetic]

@ Warchylde - what utter rubbish. You clearly know nothing on what you are talking about. You seem to draw your own facts from your own data.

Not sure where you get your info from.

 

[warchylde]

right, now that you're finish belittling me let's talk again

none have been caught? i'm sorry, i've read stories where farm murderers have been caught, and by black policemen too. i hope you can forgive me for not quoting sources now because i'm not a fanatic when it comes to genocide and conspiracy theories, but even if it weren't i can't believe people can get away with 3000 murders and not prosecute one person out of all of those. then there is this.

http://www.issafrica.org/CJM/farmrep/index.htm

read through it at your leisure. it was done awhile back but of course you'll notice that even black people that owned farms were targeted by criminals. is it only genocide if the person lives on a farm? i'm glad we have so many factors to narrow it down for us.

of course some crimes are pretty gruesome and there are no signs of theft, but the exact same thing occurs in america. perhaps not as frequently or under the same circumstances, but people sometimes murder other people gruesomely. you don't need a conspiracy for evil people.

edit here: i also want to know, what is it when a black person murders another black person for reasons besides theft and self-defense? is it genocide too? i've seen some terrible crime-scene photos of black victims. how do you think families of these victims who have been brutally murdered feel? do they need to create a conspiracy to make themselves feel justified too? /end of edit

yes, history does show it happening. i like this quote:



that is happening now. luckily our country is very, very, very far away from that happening. most people don't just look to the media and have common sense. not everything is racial or a conspiracy theory. people are complicated and now we want to narrow them down into boxes to justify our fears. now, get your nose out of history books and get to know people.

Well to quote a friend from the Police "We have caught some, mainly when they are identified for reward money. But because there is no way of tying them to the actual murder * they go free" pray tell, how many convictions you know of? I would really like to know. There is rarely a conviction because the actual murder weapons are very rarely found and when they are found there is not fingerprint evidence. Unfortunately there is no CSI show type forensics in this country. You call it conspiracy theories. Very many people call it fact.

I will read that link you posted when I have time (it's quite long) but I dare you to find the arrest and conviction rate of any farm attacks since the date of the publishing of that document. If you ask nicely it is possible that Afriforum might have those for you.

as for the belittling - I did it because your statement "and this is where racists have shot themselves in the foot. they turn everything into a conspiracy," was begging for it. There are people out there that aren't racist that can actually notice things being played to have a certain outcome and this is one of them.

*evidence is misplaced/corrupted more often than one might think.

 

[STS]

as for the belittling - I did it because your statement "and this is where racists have shot themselves in the foot. they turn everything into a conspiracy," was begging for it. There are people out there that aren't racist that can actually notice things being played to have a certain outcome and this is one of them.

*evidence is misplaced/corrupted more often than one might think.

i apologise too i don't mean to make people angry, i just read posts on websites like mysasucks and how fanatical people get. they actually block out all negativity from white people and only focus on negativity from black people. i've tried to see farm murders from others point of view, but the people who always inform me about it seem to have other agendas or are terribly unhappy with the state of the country in various ways. idon't want to deny farm murders because i love my country, i just genuinely haven't seen enough evidence for it yet.

the biggest eye opener for me was going to a police station and looking at the crime scene photos there of unidentified black children, which very much look like farm murders. there are just terrible people in this country, and we should focus on removing them, and i feel makign this out to be a genocide is just painting one race as victims of these evil people.

 

[warchylde]

@ Warchylde - what utter rubbish. You clearly know nothing on what you are talking about. You seem to draw your own facts from your own data.

Not sure where you get your info from.

A friend in the Police. and it's not because the police do not want to do anything about it it is because there simply isn't enough to convict.

 

[Zenabi]

that is happening now. luckily our country is very, very, very far away from that happening. most people don't just look to the media and have common sense. not everything is racial or a conspiracy theory. people are complicated and now we want to narrow them down into boxes to justify our fears. now, get your nose out of history books and get to know people.

Yeah, because what we need is less education.

 

[warchylde]

...and you guys can't understand why we often take what you say as a joke? Things like this are often said and we are just meant to believe it. It seemed rather far fetched to me so I did a Google search and found this :





Now, of course, I do not doubt that your come back will be something along the lines of "I didn't literally mean zero" or "How can we believe an SAPS report".... The point, however, is that you were adamant that none have been caught. Zero, zilch, niks. And this is what always makes your (in the plural sense) arguments laughable.

So what was that about a conspiracy theory again?!?!

Laughable, really laughable!

Uhm ok I know I am going to be crucified for this and it's my own mistake. I should have stated that the farm attacks I am referring to are the ones where people are murdered and not robbed (I thought it was implied... I apologise)

Lance that doc includes all crime relating to farms including robberies and breakins. I didn't specify what types of attacks so the pie is in my face. well done sir.

 

[capd]

Should have thrown blood at her

Um ok.

Bit too much for you to understand?

Still waiting Marine..?

 

[marine1]

Still waiting ? Going to be a long wait

 

[I am Penguin]

...In respect of serious farm attack cases, however, the detection rate appears to be higher.!

Now you base your whole belief system on that useless sentence.

Note the word "appears", note lack of any real fact or information. You see how gullible you are. Shame, no wonder your constant nags against the obvious. You have to resort and believe a few words just to strengthen your case. Bring us some real prove and facts, not a few words some liar wrote.

Afriforum have better information than the government has or refuse to release. S I would rather believe that source than the one you quoted.

Just strange that you as usual have so little belief in your own source that you added this as a disclaimer

Now, of course, I do not doubt that your come back will be something along the lines of "I didn't literally mean zero" or "How can we believe an SAPS report"....

So yeah, believe your own fairytale's, use your "stats" to console your own ego/conscience and blank out your mind. It' seems that you want to with your "Stats" give credence to the farm murders. They are real, they are targeted attacks for a specific reason, they are coordinated and orchestrated by some group for a specific outcome. Believe it or not, that is your conscience. More murders to come soon. There are only some 40000 framers left and shrinking fast.

 

[Nod]

There are only some 40000 framers left and shrinking fast.

From:http://www.busrep.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=563&fArticleId=4849243

The number of farms in active production fell by 12.7 percent to fewer than 40 000 in the five years to 2007, Statistics SA said yesterday.

From: http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/02/10/farmers-leaving-south-africa/

The number of commercial farmers in South Africa have plummeted from a high of 85,000 in 1994 to 11,600 today.

The new numbers, released by South African farmers union Agri-SA, become even more of a shock given the number was approximately 13,500 a few months back.

So, 40k in 2007, 11k today. Doesn't look very good. No wonder we are importing food.