Excellent interview with Ant Brooks from ISPA

[antowan]

I thought that the interview was absolutely fab. Now when will one be organised with the likes of IS or Mweb?

Soon.

 

[ambo]

I trust my post has clarified the three different licenses under which networks are built and thus I reformulate my question to www.ispa.org.za.
Under which license did Cue Incident build their telephone exchange:
1) The 'DapperMuis' license. (This is the license Jawug is using)
2) The 'Vans' license? (Used by Uninet and other ISPs)
3) The 'PTN' license? (Jhb, Pta council, SNO and Telkom)

Ok captain - think about it this way...
Irrespective of who owns the road, be it the council or SANRAL or someone else...
And irrespective of whether the council is allowed to build telecoms networks across their roads...

The fibre network is being built by a subcontractor that is contracted to the owners of the road (whoever they are) and it is being built within the road reserve on the property owned by the same said road owners.

It forms part of the road infrastructure.

If you were to extend your argument outside of your rather narrow minded telecoms ranting - you could claim that the subcontractors that put up the light pylons are acting illegally because they were installing a electrical infrastructure without being a licenced RED....

PLEASE - there are plenty of other much more viable debates to be having...

 

[dominic]

I trust my post has clarified the three different licenses under which networks are built and thus I reformulate my question to www.ispa.org.za.
Under which license did Cue Incident build their telephone exchange:
1) The 'DapperMuis' license. (This is the license Jawug is using)
2) The 'Vans' license? (Used by Uninet and other ISPs)
3) The 'PTN' license? (Jhb, Pta council, SNO and Telkom)

Tshwane's PTN licence

 

[captainwifi]

Lets get Charles Kuun on MyAdsl to explain to us how to build our own private telephone exchanges. We need Mr.Kuun to import container loads of www.zyxel.com Dslams. This is much cheaper than having to individually import it from www.froogle.com via credit card.

Dslams and www.zoneminder.com are going to solve the crime problem in this country. We need to discuss what television stations we are going to stream over these networks etc. Telkom needs permission to stream TV stations over their networks. In our case we will use the Dappermuis-license and ignore the Broadcasting Act. Thabo Mbeki has in essence eliminated a major limitation on freedom of speach/telecasting.

By allowing people to setup their own broadcasting stations, Mbeki has indirectly laid the foundation to solving the crime problem. He seems to realise that you can't expect people to spend millions to stream CCTV data, but not movies,CNN,Internet or your own political propaganda. Mr.Kuun told me that
council doesn't wish to exercise sensorship over what flows over their darkfiber networks. It is these darkfiber networks that our Dslams will peer with.

ADSL Dslam: R1000
64 modems: R500/modem
Upstream: 512k. Transmission distance 5km
Downstream: 1meg. Distance 7km

ADSL2+ Dslam: R3000
64 modems: R500/modem
Upstream: 1meg Transmission distance 4km
Downstream: 24meg Distance 4km

VDSL Dslam: R6000
64modems: R1000/modem
Upstream: 5meg/modem. Transmission distance 1.5km - 5km
Downstream: 50meg/modem. Distance 5km

 

[arf9999]

I always thought that the best stuff came from Swaziland or Transkei. I am now revising my opinion in favour of Hazyview.

Cap'n, I don't know how it happens, but everytime I see one of your posts I just have to read it....and then spend hours trying to figure out what you want to say. The damage to the South African economy caused by the wasted hours spent decyphering your posts is incalculable.

I'm going to include Charles Kuun in my prayers tonight, I just feel that he really needs the support...

 

[MobileAllOver]

I must admit that going through all these threads are somewhat annoying. Im just not getting the information that I need...

 

[skydog]

captainwifi = all talk no action.

BTW captainwifi Ant Brooks did mention in his interview that it was very expensive to lay fibre.
Now I wonder who people are going to believe you or Ant Brooks.

captainwifi - stop posting unless you have a valid point to make. out of your 255 posts I think you have not made one valid point.

 

[captainwifi]

ELECTRONIC communications bill
http://www.icasa.org.za/Documents.aspx?Page=105
p.13
CHAPTER 3
LICENSING FRAMEWORK Licensing
5. (1) The Authority may, in accordance with this Chapter and the regulation prescribed hereunder, grant individual and class licences.
2. ....
p.14
(5) Electronic communications network services, broadcasting services and elec tronic communications services that require a class licence, include, but are not limited to-
(a) electronic communications networks of district municipality or local
municipal scope operated for commercial purposes;

p.15 deals with non-council related data transmission.
Licence exemption
6. (1) Subject to subsection (2), the Authority may prescribe the-
(a) type of electronic communications services that may be provided;
(b) type of electronic communications networks that may be operated;
(c) type of electronic communications network services that may be provided;
and
(d) radio frequency spectrum that may be used,
without a licence.
(2) The electronic communications services, electronic communications networks,electronic communications network services and radio frequency spectrum contem plated in subsection (1) may include, but are not limited to-
(a) electronic communications services provided on a not-for-profit basis;

See this thread for clarity: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=38375
And my angle is to use CCTV as a ruse to setup your own exchange and then resell commercial data over this network. How would Icasa possibly block such commercial data? And it's probably obvious that only today 28 Feb.2006 did I
actually take the time to read the entire ECB bill. We have been going round in circles and all for nothing. Nice try though Rodent on your 'roads belong to council' attempt at confusing the issues, but I guess Inet-bridge at least appreciated your attempt.

Reply to RichardP below this post If you go to the Icasa link, you will note that it says the Act is final and only awaits Pres.Mbeki's signature. But you obviously know this so why are you deliberately talking nonsense? It's red herring after red herring from most of the people who work for ISPs replying to my posts. Please, lets stay on topic and either rebut or confirm my interpretation of p.13,14,15 of the finalECB.

 

[RichardP]

Please Captwifi, please quote the ACT dates, when it was Gazetted and if there is a repeal listing. Quoting out of context doesnt help