Extraterrestrial life

[Cray]

What makes you think aliens would share their technology with primitive, warmongering human governments who would no doubt just weaponize it?
If you think they would make free energy technology freely available to the general public, you obviously haven't had a long deep thought about the ramifications.

All I know is that, if an Alien intelligence wanted to make itself known, unequivocally, they could do it in such a way as to not provide dangerous technology to humans.

All it would take is one piece of evidence to prove that these aliens exist, just one, and yet you have nothing except fanciful claims and first-person accounts.

And - i've posted this link previously. There are scientists who have apparently created a micro form of space warp technology in a laboratory setting and yes, it's faster than light.

Please repost the link.

You see - this information is already out there; you simply haven't been exposed to it so don't blame me for your ignorance.
Now, if humans have already achieved this, just imagine what advanced ET civilizations have achieved who have been around thousands of years before us.
And i don't care if you think her story is credible or not. There's no convincing a die-hard sceptic of anything

https://paresspacewarpresearch.org/Projet_Space_Warp/Space_Warp.htm

There is a rather massive gap between theoretical physics and practical science. The theory exists, you would need to provide evidence of it actually being useable and functional.

 

[DirkvT]

Keep in mind that when so many molecules are "pushed aside" they will create a pressure wave as they impact the rest of the atmosphere. This wave should be perceivable. At the speeds these muppets are talking about it might even be lethal.

This particular part isn't something based on some physical interaction we don't understand. We know how the atmosphere behaves when an object moves through it.

No poop sherlock, that's how conventional, human aircraft built with human-level technology are subjected to aerodynamic forces creating a shockwave and sonic boom.
These craft generate a unique electromagnetic field which creates a 'vacuum bubble'. The skin of the craft itself is not subject the air friction which would otherwise generate intense heat, sonic booms, shockwaves, etc. Also why they generate no sound even at ridiculous speeds.
Physicist thomas valone explains how inertia has recently been discovered to be a zero point field lorentz force(electromagnetic force), and not a gravitational force (Einstein got it wrong)
Inertial mass and gravitational mass are completely different, so inertia can also be eliminated or severely reduced so when ufos take a right angle turn at mach 7 the occupants feel nothing.

All in this presentation :

 

[WollieVerstege]

The question I have is why do people think super intelligent aliens will come and visit this planet?

Think about it. Even we, the dumbasses of the universe have robots and stuff on other planets. Why would they send themselves?

Bigger question for me is, why travel through space, time, dimensions to come and reveal yourself to Bob the builder or Tom the shoe salesman. Why do these aliens not reveal themselves to the likes of Brian Greene, Michio Kaku or Brian Cox. You know people with a public profile that at least have a possibility of understanding what the aliens are on about and can have real impact to the betterment of mankind.

For that matter, why not speak to anyone in academia or a Nobel laureate.

And another thing, why must I jump around like a little circus monkey and complete "tasks" before they reveal themselves to me. Any sufficiently intelligent species should know we humans don't work that way. Why not just knock on my door, I invite them in for the best coffee in the universe, and we have a nice chat.

 

[DirkvT]

There is a rather massive gap between theoretical physics and practical science. The theory exists, you would need to provide evidence of it actually being useable and functional.

Without theoretical physics we would have no practical science. It's gotta start somewhere

 

[DirkvT]

Bigger question for me is, why travel through space, time, dimensions to come and reveal yourself to Bob the builder or Tom the shoe salesman. Why do these aliens not reveal themselves to the likes of Brian Greene, Michio Kaku or Brian Cox. You know people with a public profile that at least have a possibility of understanding what the aliens are on about and can have real impact to the betterment of mankind.

For that matter, why not speak to anyone in academia or a Nobel laureate.

And another thing, why must I jump around like a little circus monkey and complete "tasks" before they reveal themselves to me. Any sufficiently intelligent species should know we humans don't work that way. Why not just knock on my door, I invite them in for the best coffee in the universe, and we have a nice chat.

Like i said, at our current level of maturity humans would simply weaponize the technology and withhold free energy from the public.
There's no money to be made in free energy for everyone.
What would happen to the fossil fuel industry?
Believe it or not, there are very sick people in power that actually don't want the rest of humanity to thrive.

 

[Cray]

Without theoretical physics we would have no practical science. It's gotta start somewhere

But you aren't claiming it's just a start, you are claiming, without evidence, that the theory has resulted in a practical application. Plenty of theories don't go anywhere or are unworkable in reality.

 

[Moosedrool]

Someone should warn @DirkvT that if they know you're looking for them and they present themselves it means they're getting ready to abduct.

 

[Heisenborg]

I think our friend dirk needs an an@l probe from ET and provide pictures as evidence

 

[DirkvT]

But you aren't claiming it's just a start, you are claiming, without evidence, that the theory has resulted in a practical application. Plenty of theories don't go anywhere or are unworkable in reality.

Why don't you listen to the full interview of the scientist who discovered the warp drive.
According to him, they have successfully achieved it in a lab setting.
If you want evidence why don't you send him an email and pester him about "evidence"

 

[DirkvT]

Someone should warn @DirkvT that if they know you're looking for them and they present themselves it means they're getting ready to abduct.

At this point, with the state the world is in, I wouldn't consider it an "abduction".
I would consider it a rescue mission and be utterly grateful

 

[porchrat]

No poop sherlock, that's how conventional, human aircraft built with human-level technology are subjected to aerodynamic forces creating a shockwave and sonic boom.
These craft generate a unique electromagnetic field which creates a 'vacuum bubble'. The skin of the craft itself is not subject the air friction which would otherwise generate intense heat, sonic booms, shockwaves, etc. Also why they generate no sound even at ridiculous speeds.
Physicist thomas valone explains how inertia has recently been discovered to be a zero point field lorentz force(electromagnetic force), and not a gravitational force (Einstein got it wrong)
Inertial mass and gravitational mass are completely different, so inertia can also be eliminated or severely reduced so when ufos take a right angle turn at mach 7 the occupants feel nothing.

All in this presentation :

The craft displaces a massive amount of air. The faster it moves through the air the more of it is displaced per unit time. That air has to go somewhere. Depending on the speed of the craft the air can't "go somewhere" fast enough. Whether the skin of the craft is in contact with the atmosphere or this magic "bubble" is largely irrelevant. Something has to move the air out of the way... or the craft can't be there... because the air's there. The pressure differential caused by this is what creates the boom (in part).

You can't just say the word "vacuum" and change the way molecules interact.

 

[saor]

The craft displaces a massive amount of air. The faster it moves through the air the more of it is displaced per unit time. That air has to go somewhere. Depending on the speed of the craft the air can't "go somewhere" fast enough. Whether the skin of the craft is in contact with the atmosphere or this magic "bubble" is largely irrelevant. Something has to move the air out of the way... or the craft can't be there... because the air's there.

You can't just say the word "vacuum" and change the way molecules interact.

Jeez you just don't get negative transio-spatial energy inversion do you.

 

[DirkvT]

The craft displaces a massive amount of air. The faster it moves through the air the more of it is displaced per unit time. That air has to go somewhere. Depending on the speed of the craft the air can't "go somewhere" fast enough. Whether the skin of the craft is in contact with the atmosphere or this magic "bubble" is largely irrelevant. Something has to move the air out of the way... or the craft can't be there... because the air's there. The pressure differential caused by this is what creates the boom.

You can't just say the word "vacuum" and change the way molecules interact.

Strange, since just about every ufo report of strange objects travelling at star wars-level speeds are described as perfectly silent.
Even the US navy has patented such a craft.
Again, you simply haven't been exposed to such information, hence your understanding of physics is apparently outdated :

"The physical mechanism which drives this diminution in inertial mass is based on the negative pressure (hence repulsive gravity) exhibited by the polarized local vacuum energy state (local vacuum polarization being achieved by a coupling of accelerated high frequency vibration with accelerated high frequency axial rotation of an electrically charged system/object) in the close proximity of the system/object in question. In other words, inertial mass reduction can be achieved via manipulation of quantum field fluctuations in the local vacuum energy state, in the immediate proximity of the object/system. Therefore it is possible to reduce a craft's inertia, that is, its resistance to motion/acceleration by polarizing the vacuum in the close proximity of the moving craft."

https://patents.google.com/patent/US10144532B2/en

 

[porchrat]

Strange, since just about every ufo report of strange objects travelling at star wars-level speeds are described as perfectly silent.

Yea. Strange.

Something moving at the speeds these people describe, at the sizes they describe, is displacing a stupid amount of air. Not only would you hear it, you'd feel it. Feel is an understatement. Remember jets smash windows in buildings when they fly too low at supersonic speeds and you feel the pressure thump in your chest. I'm not sure you fully appreciate the forces happening at these sorts of speeds.

Even the US navy has patented such a craft.
Again, you simply haven't been exposed to such information, hence your understanding of physics is apparently outdated :

"The physical mechanism which drives this diminution in inertial mass is based on the negative pressure (hence repulsive gravity) exhibited by the polarized local vacuum energy state (local vacuum polarization being achieved by a coupling of accelerated high frequency vibration with accelerated high frequency axial rotation of an electrically charged system/object) in the close proximity of the system/object in question. In other words, inertial mass reduction can be achieved via manipulation of quantum field fluctuations in the local vacuum energy state, in the immediate proximity of the object/system. Therefore it is possible to reduce a craft's inertia, that is, its resistance to motion/acceleration by polarizing the vacuum in the close proximity of the moving craft."

https://patents.google.com/patent/US10144532B2/en

You are quoting a patent to do with trying to reduce the inertia of an object...

I'm not sure if you just don't understand what I'm saying or... ?

You may as well be quoting a patent to do with how to make noodle soup.

 

[WollieVerstege]

Like i said, at our current level of maturity humans would simply weaponize the technology and withhold free energy from the public.
There's no money to be made in free energy for everyone.
What would happen to the fossil fuel industry?
Believe it or not, there are very sick people in power that actually don't want the rest of humanity to thrive.

Then why come here at all then? If they have no interest in helping us or interacting with us, what's the point of them coming here.
My assumption of them seeing us as circus monkeys here for their entertainment seems correct. So these "aliens" seems no better than the local lot here on the planet.

 

[gotaway]

Then why come here at all then? If they have no interest in helping us or interacting with us, what's the point of them coming here.
My assumption of them seeing us as circus monkeys here for their entertainment seems correct. So these "aliens" seems no better than the local lot here on the planet.

Sentient meat.

“We came, we saw, we left”

 

[DirkvT]

Yea. Strange.

Something moving at the speeds these people describe, at the sizes they describe, is displacing a stupid amount of air. Not only would you hear it, you'd feel it. Feel is an understatement. Remember jets smash windows in buildings when they fly too low at supersonic speeds and you feel the pressure thump in your chest. I'm not sure you fully appreciate the forces happening at these sorts of speeds.

What makes you think advanced alien craft have not figured out how to eliminate air friction?
And seeing that ufos make no sound at such speeds, fully supports the theory that they have

 

[DirkvT]

Yea. Strange.

Something moving at the speeds these people describe, at the sizes they describe, is displacing a stupid amount of air. Not only would you hear it, you'd feel it. Feel is an understatement. Remember jets smash windows in buildings when they fly too low at supersonic speeds and you feel the pressure thump in your chest. I'm not sure you fully appreciate the forces happening at these sorts of speeds.


You are quoting a patent to do with trying to reduce the inertia of an object...

I'm not sure if you just don't understand what I'm saying or... ?

You may as well be quoting a patent to do with how to make noodle soup.

If you reduce the mass of an F16 to 5% of it's normal weight, (once the field is activated) this will significantly reduce the amount of sound it makes

 

[porchrat]

If you reduce the mass of an F16 to 5% of it's normal weight, (once the field is activated) this will significantly reduce the amount of sound it makes

It will increase its acceleration.

Why would it reduce the sound it makes?

Why would it reduce the amount of the atmosphere it displaces? Has volume magically decreased? How would it make the atmosphere move out of the way of that craft faster preventing pressure waves? Why would it prevent the zone of lowered pressure behind that craft as the atmosphere crashes back into the void left by the craft as it moves forward?

 

[PaulGherkin]

I think our friend dirk needs an an@l probe from ET and provide pictures as evidence

This ET?