Extraterrestrial life

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Cray said:
I wonder when we can expect this faster-than-light travel to be made publicly available... :unsure:

It's odd that someone who had so much to say about advanced science and Alien technology couldn't even provide one bit of information that could actually be used practically in some kind of new invention that was not previously available to mankind. You would have thought that, given the so-called importance of her message, and the stakes involved, a few key bits of shared technology could have done wonders to give her story credibility.
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This part makes no sense (it's all a weird word salad but this part is particularly weird):
and it moves without sound or the restriction of speed as the molecules of atmosphere are pushed aside instead of piling up in flight.
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Molecules in the atmosphere also move out of the way of regular aircraft. They just can't do it fast enough as speed increases because there are other air molecules that are in the way of those molecules and so on and so on. It's not just about the craft, it's about the density of the atmosphere the craft is moving through. How does anything mentioned in that quote change this in any way, especially when a craft is moving even faster than a jet or something making the problem even larger (more and more molecules needing to be "moved" the faster you move through the atmosphere)?

Keep in mind that when so many molecules are "pushed aside" they will create a pressure wave as they impact the rest of the atmosphere. This wave should be perceivable. At the speeds these muppets are talking about it might even be lethal.

This particular part isn't something based on some physical interaction we don't understand. We know how the atmosphere behaves when an object moves through it.
 
porchrat said:
This part makes no sense (it's all a weird word salad but this part is particularly weird):

Molecules in the atmosphere also move out of the way of regular aircraft. They just can't do it fast enough as speed increases because there are other air molecules that are in the way of those molecules and so on and so on. It's not just about the craft, it's about the density of the atmosphere the craft is moving through. How does anything mentioned in that quote change this in any way, especially when a craft is moving even faster than a jet or something making the problem even larger (more and more molecules needing to be "moved" the faster you move through the atmosphere)?

Keep in mind that when so many molecules are "pushed aside" they will create a pressure wave as they impact the rest of the atmosphere. This wave should be perceivable. At the speeds these muppets are talking about it might even be lethal.

This particular part isn't something based on some physical interaction we don't understand. We know how the atmosphere behaves when an object moves through it.
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The amazing thing is that her book is still in print...

https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Light-Barrier-Autobiography-Elizabeth/dp/1891824775

The customer reviews are a hoot..I particularly enjoyed this part of one.

I have searched the internet to find other evidence of UFO's to support this book, but all I can find is that the area in the Drakensberg where the spaceships landed is now restricted by the South African government. A very interesting book that raises more questions than it answers.
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:ROFL:
 
newklear said:
I made the comment and question as it could be possible that through various forms of meditation that more DMT is released into the brain, ergo causing more sensory sensations and visions. I am not disputing what DirkvT sees or visualises but curious as to how one encounters these visions on a biological/spiritual aspect. This is also part of my field of study.

What has also been documented is, if one is enclosed in a dark room for an extended period of time, one can start to see visions that appear 100% realistic to that individual. This again, is documented due to more DMT being released into the brain.
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Sounds like a similar way to account for OOB's, though in that case it might just be the lingering on the threshold between wake & sleep that induces strange experiences. Like I knew about sleep paralysis and still had a strange and very real-feeling experience of something coming up the stairs and into my room. But either way - DMT or hypnagogic fantasies - these experiences can seem so real and objective that most people surrender completely to their perception of them as objective phenomena.

[In the case of alien-person their objective phenomena is actually objective (assuming their story is true and those images capture something more than sun catching dust in the wind) and in this case I'd be happy to stay open to some inexplicable thing occurring that we might not be able to account for. This is again why I'd encourage a person like this to drop the alien narrative and instead explore the experience from the naive perspective and gather their own information]
 
DirkvT said:
I highly doubt you're gonna go away and contact some astronomical/scientific institution for analysis, are you?
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I have owned a 4" reflecting telescope for more than 40 years. I don't need anyone to help me do any analysis.
 
Mars said:
Perhaps when/if we are able to travel faster than light, like 100 times faster than light, then the chances of us finding life can be accurately be described as slim.
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This.

Even if SETI and the satellies had to detect a radio signal which can be confirmed as alien in origin, the chances are likely that it was sent hundreds, thousands if not millions of years ago by the time it got to us and it may take that same amount of time to send a response to them.
 
JuliusSeizure said:
This.

Even if SETI and the satellies had to detect a radio signal which can be confirmed as alien in origin, the chances are likely that it was sent hundreds, thousands if not millions of years ago by the time it got to us and it may take that same amount of time to send a response to them.
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There is an interesting novel called Pushing Ice by Alistair Reynolds which explores... the gulfs of time and distance that could separate intelligent species. A pretty good read.
 
DirkvT said:
Yes, good questions. I will answer as per what i know.

Ce-5 doesn't involve any mantras or chanting but there is a south american group called Mission Rama who do employ that technique.
Ce-5 is simply a half-hour guided meditation track with binaural beats in the background to help with transition from your normal waking state (alpha and beta) to the theta state. Before doing the meditation you have to visually memorise what it looks like to zoom into your exact location from space, right down to your house, because at some point during the meditation you must "show" them where you are. This is called coherent thought sequencing and is a key aspect to success.
You are basically using a form of remote viewing to perceive any ETs that are not only in the vicinity of earth but also as far away as another galaxy, like andromeda.
These advanced ETs not only have technology that can pick up on humans engaging in activity in this realm, but they themselves communicate with telepathy via visual imagery thought transference. They don't need radio signals nor any electronic form of communication as we use.
These extremely advanced races also do not at all, travel though space in the conventional, linear fashion from point A to point B, which is how us humans perceive space travel to be. They can shift from one local to another in a matter of seconds by manipulating the frequency at which they exist on an atomic level.
Some have transdimensional capability, some don't. Depends on the species. The ones responding to ce-5 I would say have to be transdimensional.

This is a quote from a Proxima Centaurian who made contact with a south african woman, Elizabeth Klarer, from her book :
"As I mentioned before, the unified differentials of light interact to create a vacuum encircling the spaceship, and it moves without sound or the restriction of speed as the molecules of atmosphere are pushed aside instead of piling up in flight. In space, the unified field of light creates a shift in space and time. No velocity is involved—there is only a shift in frequency as the spaceship vibrates in harmonic resonance to interact with the wave energy of light pulsing throughout the galaxy. It simply uses the fabric of space itself, which is light, vibrating in waveform frequencies in alternate pulses of matter and antimatter. Thereby we overcome the problems of space travel beyond the light barrier."

So, travelling thousands of miles can be done in an instant. It's almost like teleportation. But they are not necessarily far away. Many ET craft are very near earth, simply in stealth mode.
They do show on radar and have many times. I'm sure they can easily go undetected if they so wish and it is my opinion that when they do show on radar, it is intentional on their behalf. They have even shown up on sonar travelling supersonic speeds underwater.
Watch this by Chris Lehto a retired F16 pilot who is now investigating ufos :

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I also took LSD before.
 
Cray said:
Am in two minds about this. Part of me says that it's harmless and people take pleasure from these beliefs. On the other hand, these sorts of beliefs can be taken too far and can sometimes end in tragedy...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(religious_group)
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I imagine these people are a crazy minority. I reckon the vast majority of these UFO people live productive happy lives without this stuff consuming them.

The crazy is a bigger factor than the UFO believing part.

Believing in UFOs just means the threshold for what one consider reliable evidence is far lower than the average person (though even this claim of the average is very optimistic... a stupid number of people believe in astrology). Same with pyramid and crystal power, flat Earthers, lizard people conspiracy theorists etc.. As long as nobody is getting hurt it really doesn't concern me what others choose to believe.
 
porchrat said:
I imagine these people are a crazy minority. I reckon the vast majority of these UFO people live productive happy lives without this stuff consuming them.

The crazy is a bigger factor than the UFO believing part.

Believing in UFOs just means the threshold for what one consider reliable evidence is far lower than the average person (though even this claim of the average is very optimistic... a stupid number of people believe in astrology). Same with pyramid and crystal power, flat Earthers, lizard people conspiracy theorists etc.. As long as nobody is getting hurt it really doesn't concern me what others choose to believe.
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The question I have is why do people think super intelligent aliens will come and visit this planet?

Think about it. Even we, the dumbasses of the universe have robots and stuff on other planets. Why would they send themselves?
 
Moosedrool said:
The question I have is why do people think super intelligent aliens will come and visit this planet?

Think about it. Even we, the dumbasses of the universe have robots and stuff on other planets. Why would they send themselves?
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They like molesting cows in the American mid-West.

I don't think having the robots do it gets them off in quite the same way.
 
Cray said:
I wonder when we can expect this faster-than-light travel to be made publicly available... :unsure:

It's odd that someone who had so much to say about advanced science and Alien technology couldn't even provide one bit of information that could actually be used practically in some kind of new invention that was not previously available to mankind. You would have thought that, given the so-called importance of her message, and the stakes involved, a few key bits of shared technology could have done wonders to give her story credibility.
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What makes you think aliens would share their technology with primitive, warmongering human governments who would no doubt just weaponize it?
If you think they would make free energy technology freely available to the general public, you obviously haven't had a long deep thought about the ramifications.

And - i've posted this link previously. There are scientists who have apparently created a micro form of space warp technology in a laboratory setting and yes, it's faster than light.
You see - this information is already out there; you simply haven't been exposed to it so don't blame me for your ignorance.
Now, if humans have already achieved this, just imagine what advanced ET civilizations have achieved who have been around thousands of years before us.
And i don't care if you think her story is credible or not. There's no convincing a die-hard sceptic of anything

https://paresspacewarpresearch.org/Projet_Space_Warp/Space_Warp.htm
 
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