Extraterrestrial life

Are we alone in the Universe?

  • Yes

  • No

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DirkvT said:
Which one do you think?
You really think we are so special that our sun is the only star in the entire universe that harbours intelligent life?
Gotta be really far up your own arse to believe that, or, you're "religious"
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He asked you which mathematical certainty? You never answer a question with a question. It shows you don't know and it looks like you threw something out there without really knowing.
 
DirkvT said:
Yes, buddy. I don't know what's tripping you up with this one. Literally an estimated 200 billion stars in the milky way alone, if we extrapolate that out to all the known galaxies (so far), we get a figure of over 1 septillion stars.
Sorry, but assuming life only exists in ONE star system alone out of all that, is stupidity personified.
If we look at the answers to the poll on this forum, you do know that only 14% think we're alone while 86% do not.
How does it feel to be stranded on that sinking ship?
But in your delusion i bet you feel that the 14% sceptics here are right and the rest of us are wrong.
Got it.
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Jou koppie raas
 
OhYeah84 said:
He asked you which mathematical certainty? You never answer a question with a question. It shows you don't know and it looks like you threw something out there without really knowing.
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75% chance of life. https://phys.org/news/2020-05-odds-life-intelligence-emerging-planet.html

Bayesian inference, knock yourself out.

Edit linky: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1921655117

Still dont think they factored enough variables and the number closer to 100% if we factor unknowns.
 
OhYeah84 said:
He asked you which mathematical certainty? You never answer a question with a question. It shows you don't know and it looks like you threw something out there without really knowing.
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This was my answer to him, apparently you missed it. Do i need to lay out the math for you too?

"Yes, buddy. I don't know what's tripping you up with this one. Literally an estimated 200 billion stars in the milky way alone, if we extrapolate that out to all the known galaxies (so far), we get a figure of over 1 septillion stars.
Sorry, but assuming life only exists in ONE star system alone out of all that, is stupidity personified.
If we look at the answers to the poll on this forum, you do know that only 14% think we're alone while 86% do not.
How does it feel to be stranded on that sinking ship?
But in your delusion i bet you feel that the 14% sceptics here are right and the rest of us are wrong.
Got it."
 
DirkvT said:
This was my answer to him, apparently you missed it. Do i need to lay out the math for you too?

"Yes, buddy. I don't know what's tripping you up with this one. Literally an estimated 200 billion stars in the milky way alone, if we extrapolate that out to all the known galaxies (so far), we get a figure of over 1 septillion stars.
Sorry, but assuming life only exists in ONE star system alone out of all that, is stupidity personified.
If we look at the answers to the poll on this forum, you do know that only 14% think we're alone while 86% do not.
How does it feel to be stranded on that sinking ship?
But in your delusion i bet you feel that the 14% sceptics here are right and the rest of us are wrong.
Got it."
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I asked you for the math. You inferred my opinion on the matter which i never even gave and going full bezerker mode. Chill the f out
 
DirkvT said:
This was my answer to him, apparently you missed it. Do i need to lay out the math for you too?

"Yes, buddy. I don't know what's tripping you up with this one. Literally an estimated 200 billion stars in the milky way alone, if we extrapolate that out to all the known galaxies (so far), we get a figure of over 1 septillion stars.
Sorry, but assuming life only exists in ONE star system alone out of all that, is stupidity personified.
If we look at the answers to the poll on this forum, you do know that only 14% think we're alone while 86% do not.
How does it feel to be stranded on that sinking ship?
But in your delusion i bet you feel that the 14% sceptics here are right and the rest of us are wrong.
Got it."
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OK, so it's personal maths then. I don't particularily live on the forum like you might trying to convince people there are Martians so yes I did miss how you personally worked things out.

K thanks bye!
 
DirkvT said:
Which party balloons, exactly? What make, what model, what is it supposed to be (a letter, number, etc)
Identify the exact balloon, otherwise you are also using your own confirmation bias to weakly conclude that they are "balloons"
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This is typically a strategy used by conspiracy theorists and online trolls when they run out of arguments, i.e turn the issue back on the enquirer. Further more, your request is both absurd and non-sensical as there is no way for me to provide any of the information you requested, without at least you giving detailed explanations of when, where and how the photographs were taken.

That said, I am not disputing, that you did see something and that you did photograph something. What is being questioned is the evidence to prove that what you saw/photographed is not of this earth.

Carl Sagan said that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". So for you have not provided any evidence except some photos with no contrast or context that can literally be of anything.
Similarly most of the "evidence" I have seen could have been of anything.
 
WollieVerstege said:
This is typically a strategy used by conspiracy theorists and online trolls when they run out of arguments, i.e turn the issue back on the enquirer. Further more, your request is both absurd and non-sensical as there is no way for me to provide any of the information you requested, without at least you giving detailed explanations of when, where and how the photographs were taken.

That said, I am not disputing, that you did see something and that you did photograph something. What is being questioned is the evidence to prove that what you saw/photographed is not of this earth.

Carl Sagan said that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". So for you have not provided any evidence except some photos with no contrast or context that can literally be of anything.
Similarly most of the "evidence" I have seen could have been of anything.
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Oh, i ran out of arguments, have I? What arguments have i run out of, exactly?
You say my photos are of balloons. (hilarious to say the least - i would recommend you find a good optometrist because that assertion is what i would expect at least a half-blind person to say)
Why do i say these objects are of an ET/interdimensional origin?
Because i literally see them after performing the ce-5 protocols. What is the ce-5 protocols all about?
It's about changing your brainwave to a different frequency to "connect" with ETs and invite them to show themselves from your own back garden.
But i guess that's just coincidence, huh?
So i perform this ce-5 thing, and then these strange objects show up in the sky.
But nope!
I cannot be, right?
It must just be coincidence, right?
Yet, coincidences cannot even be mathematically nor statistically proven.
So i have at least 2 data points of evidence : 1. I perform an activity which is literally designed to get ETs to show up, and 2. I take photographic and video evidence of such events.
That's not half bad.
At least i have 2 data points of proof that what i'm saying is correct, and you have none whatsoever.
So amongst us all, i have literally provided far more evidence of what i am asserting, and all you can do is post cynical comments with nothing to backup to your claims.
Further, my camera is more than good enough to discern any type of balloon from an unknown object.

So it boils down to this : I have provided more evidence for my claims, than anyone here has about theirs.
And, if you think my photos are fakes, like some kind of macro photos of a sugar crystal, well, there is nothing i can do to change your mind other than recommend you take my photos to an expert
 
DirkvT said:
Oh, i ran out of arguments, have I? What arguments have i run out of, exactly?
You say my photos are of balloons. (hilarious to say the least - i would recommend you find a good optometrist because that assertion is what i would expect at least a half-blind person to say)
Why do i say these objects are of an ET/interdimensional origin?
Because i literally see them after performing the ce-5 protocols. What is the ce-5 protocols all about?
It's about changing your brainwave to a different frequency to "connect" with ETs and invite them to show themselves from your own back garden.
But i guess that's just coincidence, huh?
So i perform this ce-5 thing, and then these strange objects show up in the sky.
But nope!
I cannot be, right?
It must just be coincidence, right?
Yet, coincidences cannot even be mathematically nor statistically proven.
So i have at least 2 data points of evidence : 1. I perform an activity which is literally designed to get ETs to show up, and 2. I take photographic and video evidence of such events.
That's not half bad.
At least i have 2 data points of proof that what i'm saying is correct, and you have none whatsoever.
So amongst us all, i have literally provided far more evidence of what i am asserting, and all you can do is post cynical comments with nothing to backup to your claims.
Further, my camera is more than good enough to discern any type of balloon from an unknown object.

So it boils down to this : I have provided more evidence for my claims, than anyone here has about theirs.
And, if you think my photos are fakes, like some kind of macro photos of a sugar crystal, well, there is nothing i can do to change your mind other than recommend you take my photos to an expert
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++ignore
 
DirkvT said:
Where did you get the "taking drugs" part from? Sounds like you fabricated that one from a brain fart
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I got it from the post quoted below. You had quite an extended conversation with the fellow. My memory is fine:
newklear said:
Same when ingesting DMT, you are altering the electrical activity in your brain, less alpha waves and a short-lived increase in theta waves and is a putative neurotransmitter. With enough DMT you can experience a breakthrough and talk directly with the ET's, Spirit's and God.

Could the act of CE5 meditation cause more DMT to be released by the Pineal gland which gives you similar sensations ?
Care to share the CE5 protocols ?
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s0lar said:
Not my fault you are narrow minded.
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I don't recall blaming you for anything. :unsure:

and again with the insults. What is it with you? You can't just have a regular conversation?

You seem to have some sort of weird persecution complex. I don't recall saying anything negative about you at all. Chill out mate. Not everyone is out to get you all the time. We can just have a relaxed and respectful back and forth like rational human beings.
 
saor said:
My pop-psych theory is that people struggle to observe things without labelling them. They see something inexplicable and in the absence of anything to map the experience onto, they adopt the stories other people have conjured to account for their own experience. So now they've coupled their experience to someone else's narrative and any attacks on that narrative are conflated with attacks on their own experience.
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I don't know about all that. He just seems to think his approach is scientific while denouncing actual scientists. It's weird.
 
porchrat said:
I don't know about all that. He just seems to think his approach is scientific while denouncing actual scientists. It's weird.
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The only scientist i have denounced is disinformation artist de grasse tyson who wants you to believe humans are the only intelligent life. And you have more than denounced some of the actual scientists that i have referenced, too.
 
DirkvT said:
The only scientist i have denounced is disinformation artist de grasse tyson who wants you to believe humans are the only intelligent life.
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You've denounced 3 by my count. DeGrasse Tyson, Darwin and Hawking. Though the last 2 are confusing because you appear to think they're the same person so perhaps the count is 2 and you had a... how did you put it... a "brain fart"?

DirkvT said:
And you have more than denounced some of the actual scientists that i have referenced, too.
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I'd be very surprised if I'd denounced any of the scientists you've referenced considering I haven't bothered to read anything you've referenced.

You can't denounce someone you aren't aware of.

Could you give me an example of me denouncing one of these scientists?
 
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