Extraterrestrial life

Are we alone in the Universe?

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Jings said:
Natural science is based on observation. No scientific study, with integrity, concludes that a 90 degree turn at mach 2 is a fantasy if there's data to back it up.
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Yeah, about that data...
Jings said:
Getting around inertia for people inside the craft is immaterial. The craft could be unmanned for all we know.
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Fair enough.
 
Tim_vb said:
Lets not forget the tons of dough he stand to make as a hetrodox, free thinking, conspiracy theorist with a podcast.

Anyone can spout theories and cast themselves as the selfless hero while providing no collaborating evidence. That he chooses to go on JR who has a clear bias towards elaborate conspiracies is in itself a red flag.
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Luis Elizondo went on JRE, and his story has gone mainstream. That's another kind of red flag. It's clear US government is divided on disclosure.
 
Cray said:
Yeah, about that data...

Fair enough.
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Unfortunately the UAPDA of 2024 has been placed in the freezer. Maybe there'll be a consensus as the pressure mounts amongst increase sightings.

Even Putin has been teasing the US about disclosure.
 
Jings said:
Unfortunately the UAPDA of 2024 has been placed in the freezer. Maybe there'll be a consensus as the pressure mounts amongst increase sightings.

Even Putin has been teasing the US about disclosure.
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They won't disclose anything, the hawks are far too powerful. Whatever they release or allow to be "leaked" won't be the whole story or allow a full picture to emerge. All these psy-op guys like Grosch and Elizondo are either pawns or agents.

Nothing they've "disclosed" are new, it's all been rumoured about in the UFO community for years. The only interesting parts were the two videos from years back now....which raises even more suspicions.

Ultimately the strangeness in the sky and stories about the water will probably never be truly explained until nobody can make money from it anymore. From the "leakers" selling books to the aerospace industry getting massive research funding to "investigate" possibilities. It's still just a con.
 
Slckrck said:
They won't disclose anything, the hawks are far too powerful. Whatever they release or allow to be "leaked" won't be the whole story or allow a full picture to emerge. All these psy-op guys like Grosch and Elizondo are either pawns or agents.

Nothing they've "disclosed" are new, it's all been rumoured about in the UFO community for years. The only interesting parts were the two videos from years back now....which raises even more suspicions.

Ultimately the strangeness in the sky and stories about the water will probably never be truly explained until nobody can make money from it anymore. From the "leakers" selling books to the aerospace industry getting massive research funding to "investigate" possibilities. It's still just a con.
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Problem with disclose is corruption and mismanagement in Federal government. They've been diverting funds to black ops programs and award contracts to private corps without due diligence and proper tender process. Lockheed Martin, Boeing, RTX Corporation and Booz Allen Hamilton make significant revenue off US government. These companies would continue benefiting if disclosure is halted.
 
Interesting testimonies heard in this latest hearing.

Some of the concerns raised by the whistleblowers:
  • Spending of tax payers monies is not transparent
  • Discreditation of whistleblowers
  • Military defenses are useless against technological advancement of the crafts
  • Adverse biological effects the crafts have on humans including anxiety and shared consciousness with the triangular crafts
 
Jings said:
Interesting testimonies heard in this latest hearing.

Some of the concerns raised by the whistleblowers:
  • Spending of tax payers monies is not transparent
  • Discreditation of whistleblowers
  • Military defenses are useless against technological advancement of the crafts
  • Adverse biological effects the crafts have on humans including anxiety and shared consciousness with the triangular crafts
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Unfortunately these supposed crafts were all the result of whichever pipe tobacco was smoked on that day
 
Jings said:
Are you a pseudosceptic? Do you ignore evidence to suit your confirmation bias?
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It changed its nickname to what it is now, as result of its actions and people on mybb calling it out. All you need to know about paul
 
Enzo Matrix said:
It changed its nickname to what it is now, as result of its actions and people on mybb calling it out. All you need to know about paul
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Back then we called them trolls but apparently they are now "engagement specialists".
 
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