Extraterrestrial life

Are we alone in the Universe?

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A larger aircraft displaces more of the atmosphere. If an aircraft is larger is it obviously much heavier... because it's larger... and so has more materials in it (do I honestly have to mention this?). The mass itself does not impact displacement, volume does. It's the displacement of air by the leading edge of the aircraft that causes the shockwave.

Jesus wept. Go back to primary school and sit in on a physics class. This is ridiculous.

EDIT: to be clear, that doesn't mean reducing intertial mass has no impact on an aircraft. Quite the contrary. A lighter vehicle is more maneuverable. It requires less force to accelerate and change direction. So handling of a craft that is made lighter is going to be improved. All other things beind equal however zero impact on the boom.
Okay. Then explain to me how ufos can be the most unerodynamic shapes (like, a cube), travelling thousands of miles per second, and create no noise whatsoever ?
Clearly they are employing technology which makes our aircraft, which have to deal with air friction, look extremely primitive. They have achieved elimination of air friction alltogether.
You are talking from a human-level understanding of physics, not from an advanced extraterrestrial perspective - and let me remind you that no, our scientific understanding has not reached the universal apex.
Hypersonic velocities without signatures is one of the key observables that has come out of the AATIP program. This has been confirmed. This is not speculative conjecture.

Can you explain how that is achieved, Dr. Sheldon Cooper ?
 
Okay. Then explain to me how ufos can be the most unerodynamic shapes (like, a cube), travelling thousands of miles per second, and create no noise whatsoever ?
Clearly they are employing technology which makes our aircraft, which have to deal with air friction, look extremely primitive. They have achieved elimination of air friction alltogether.
You are talking from a human-level understanding of physics, not from an advanced extraterrestrial perspective - and let me remind you that no, our scientific understanding has not reached the universal apex.
Hypersonic velocities without signatures is one of the key observables that has come out of the AATIP program. This has been confirmed. This is not speculative conjecture.

Can you explain how that is achieved, Dr. Sheldon Cooper ?
Answer the question about mass. You're the one who made the assertion. You can't just point to some otherworldly hypothetical technology as a way to make an argument about how things work here on earth.
 
Answer the question about mass. You're the one who made the assertion. You can't just point to some otherworldly hypothetical technology as a way to make an argument about how things work here on earth.
"Answer the question about mass!" he demands.

Here i point you to this guy :

 
Okay. Then explain to me how ufos can be the most unerodynamic shapes (like, a cube), travelling thousands of miles per second, and create no noise whatsoever ?
Can you explain why the pixies at the bottom of my garden are yellow and can do mach 85?

Clearly they are employing technology which makes our aircraft, which have to deal with air friction, look extremely primitive. They have achieved elimination of air friction alltogether.
Or another more reasonable explanation...

You are talking from a human-level understanding of physics, not from an advanced extraterrestrial perspective - and let me remind you that no, our scientific understanding has not reached the universal apex.
I'm talking from an average human-level understanding of physics. You're seemingly not. Consuming the word salads from these books without that base understanding is pointless. It just sounds so fantastical so people eat it up without any idea of what's actually being said, or even an attempt to understand it.

I was simply pointing out that the stuff being presented for these magic vacuum bubbles is nonsensical. Take it or leave it mate.

Hypersonic velocities without signatures is one of the key observables that has come out of the AATIP program. This has been confirmed. This is not speculative conjecture.
Can you explain how that is achieved, Dr. Sheldon Cooper ?
I don't have a PhD and the meager qualifications I do have are not in physics. Don't believe I ever claimed to be an expert. Quite the contrary.

He was a physicist right? I never really watched the show.
 
"Answer the question about mass!" he demands.

Here i point you to this guy :

Ja no. I'm on a forum asking you a question. If you can't be bothered to write something in your own words I'm not going to bother watching a video. You're just regurgitating stuff.
 
Okay. Then explain to me how ufos can be the most unerodynamic shapes (like, a cube), travelling thousands of miles per second, and create no noise whatsoever ?
Clearly they are employing technology which makes our aircraft, which have to deal with air friction, look extremely primitive. They have achieved elimination of air friction alltogether.
You are talking from a human-level understanding of physics, not from an advanced extraterrestrial perspective - and let me remind you that no, our scientific understanding has not reached the universal apex.
Hypersonic velocities without signatures is one of the key observables that has come out of the AATIP program. This has been confirmed. This is not speculative conjecture.

Can you explain how that is achieved, Dr. Sheldon Cooper ?
This reminds of the guy who asked a Star Trek writer how their inertia-less drives worked...

His Answer was "Very well thanks".

You must as well just say "magic" for all the sense your explanations make.
 
Ja no. I'm on a forum asking you a question. If you can't be bothered to write something in your own words I'm not going to bother watching a video. You're just regurgitating stuff.
So you want an explanation from a layman and not an actual physicist?

Ok.

256 characters or less?

Not happening.
 
@greg0205 see... memories of an elephant

If I remember right killa accused porchrat of drinking toilet duck. That was one crazy thread though :ROFL:

Of course Zana was a whole new ballgame compared to killa. Wonder what ever happened to her
I think Zana was before my time. I've heard stories. Sounds like a hoot.
 
I think Zana was before my time. I've heard stories. Sounds like a hoot.

Zana was a strange elf looking creature... she posted pics of herself in the forest etc

Apparently she was just biding time waiting for the mother ship to swing by and collect her

I guess maybe it did because she want awol a bit later
 
So you want an explanation from a layman and not an actual physicist?

Ok.

256 characters or less?

Not happening.
Yeah fine, then don't make assertions you're not willing to discuss. At minimum you could say: 'Mass has an inverse relationship to something something something that affects atmospheric something." You know, the elevator pitch for how mass can correlate to a reduction in shockwave intensity.

Imagine an analogous argument with a ghost person:

Ghost person: Consciousness doesn't require matter to exist.
Someone Else: The only examples on earth are of consciousness existing in matter. Can you posit a reasonable mechanism for how this would work?
Ghost person: Well according to Dr. Oompah Loompah ghosts are both conscious and non-material. Therefore it is possible. Go watch this video ====>

You see how silly that is? They're making assertions about ghosts and basing their argument about consciousness on those assertions.
 
Technology is advancing at a rapid rate but TBH, I'm not totally confident extraterrestrial life will be found in our lifetimes.
 
Technology is advancing at a rapid rate but TBH, I'm not totally confident extraterrestrial life will be found in our lifetimes.
The odds are against this ever happening. Either us or another civilisation would have to somehow transcend the limitation of physics or discover whole new paradigms in physics to stand a realistic chance of ever exploring enough of the universe to encounter each other. But then there is also the added dimension of time - it would have to happen in the same brief era across a timespan of billions and billions of years.
 
The odds are against this ever happening. Either us or another civilisation would have to somehow transcend the limitation of physics or discover whole new paradigms in physics to stand a realistic chance of ever exploring enough of the universe to encounter each other. But then there is also the added dimension of time - it would have to happen in the same brief era across a timespan of billions and billions of years.

Yeah, I highly doubt we will find intelligent life. Microbial life may be found at some point, it may even be in our solar system especially as Mars and Venus, perhaps some moons of Saturn are "failed earths" with atmospheres and some organisms on earth can withstand their environments.

I dont think the technology to discover them will come in our lifetime though.

There is a chance we may have detected an Alien signal, i.e 1977 Wow Signal and we may detect Alien Radio signals in the future but even of we do, it's likely to have been initially sent out hundreds if not thousands of years ago and beaming a response would take the same amount of years.

AFAIK, they are beaming radio signals from earth and some of the probes like the Voyagers have signatures of humanity and life on earth. Even if intelligent life one day finds it, it may be at a time when all life on earth is gone.
 
The odds are against this ever happening. Either us or another civilisation would have to somehow transcend the limitation of physics or discover whole new paradigms in physics to stand a realistic chance of ever exploring enough of the universe to encounter each other. But then there is also the added dimension of time - it would have to happen in the same brief era across a timespan of billions and billions of years.
The problem with a hypothesis like this is, we assume our current understanding of physics is complete and correct. Yes in our view there's little chance of encountering alien life simply because of the vastness of the universe according to our knowledge this far. But that doesn't mean it's impossible to travel or explore within one lifetime, just that we can't see how.

We've had to adjust our understanding of reality multiple times and scientific theories constantly adapts to new evidence, so who's to say we won't find some new exploit to create wormholes that we could travel through tomorrow.
 
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